Posted on 05/26/2004 4:37:49 AM PDT by brityank
Based on everything I've seen or heard of Nick, he was one of the good guys. His father is a communist Fifth-Column sympathiser undeserving of such a man in his family.
"Based on everything I've seen or heard of Nick, he was one of the good guys. His father is a communist Fifth-Column sympathiser undeserving of such a man in his family."
This is one strange story. The father has managed to distract the "EVIL" done to his son, by his support of those who supported Saddam and his fellow travelers.
I am angered by this father, I resent sharing that horror of what was done to his son with his horror of blaming President Bush.
Based on what I've seen and heard of Nick...I don't know what to conclude.
He was either cursed with the sorriest run of bad luck one could have, or he was living the plot of a Robert Ludlum novel.
My guess is that Berg had a bounty on his head because he
was jewish. Someone turned him into AL-Queda for cash. Simple story. He was fair game and shouldn't have been over alone in the first place.
No kidding. I'm just baffled by the various plot lines. The Moussaui connection is simply astounding; if he really was innocent, it's almost unbelievable.
I think it's interesting that the article points out Berg continued his "studies" at Cornell, Drexel, Penn, and Oklahoma. He was an undergraduate. Schools don't just invite undergrads in to start playing in the labs. How does one go from designing "paper bricks" for huts to communication towers?
I suppose the oddities of Mr. Berg's life are amplified by the manner of his death. But I just can't shake the idea that the story isn't complete on him.
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi? Who`s that?
Nick seems to have lived his talented life to the fullest.
I wonder if Michael Berg is angry because he thought Nick was the next Bill Gates or Steve Jobs.
Maybe he hoped his investment in Prometheus would pay off. BIG.
Still, Nick's father has lost all credibility with me, and his use of Nick as the cause-belli to advance his own twisted agenda is pitiful.
bttt
In other words, Al Qaida operatives.
That sealed his doom, if true. Confirmation?
Good point.
No matter what we learn, there will never be a satisfactory explanation of Nick's life or death -- too many competing interests combined with the fog of war. We're not dealing with an American society and its norms in an American suburb like Westchester, PA.
I think this comment hits the nail on the head. The Utopian concept of many leftist's is that if we would stop being such bullies and reach out and let the terrorists know we love them, all would be well in the world. This father's views seem to be eerily similar.
Don't get pulled in with Michael's version of the facts. Nick told people at the hotel he was put in a seperate room AWAY from other inmates for his own protection because they were taunting him. The guards didn't want an incident so moved him to what Nick said was a bathroom which he found humorous.
Ping.
Oh sure, inspect my perfectly good tower for free and let me know how much repairs are going to cost.
"Were it not for Nick's detention, I would have had him in my arms again," Mr. Berg's father
Show me a video of Bush hacking away on Nick's neck with a dull sword. I'd get kicked off FR if I posted what I really feel about him.
wearing orange clothing, which, to some, looked like the jumpsuits worn by prisoners held by the American military.
Since when did we issue jumpsuits that are shiny like satin or such? Besides, if one looks closely the pattern or cut is different.
Mr. Berg was detained because his activities seemed suspicious, and once those suspicions were dispelled, he was released, they said.
According to a hotel aquaintance, he'd been arrested once before so with a second arrest of course they'd want to keep him a few days. Iraqi police or American military, it's not a mystery they needed to play hot potato with Nick.
That if they took the time, they'd like him."
Let all the people of the world hold hands and sing Kumbayah.
In 2000, he quit his studies in Norman and for more than a year wandered across Oklahoma and Texas
Convenient the Post left out he was arrested twice in the spring of 2000 for living in the student union building when he wasn't registered as a student. Moussaoui, Atta, Attas (a classmate), Hazmi, and Shehhi were also wandering across OK. Just my personal opininion formed from the Berg story and googling, I suspect it was Atta himself that Nick met up with. The timeline fits for Atta more so than Moussaoui. Notice the FBI has never given a name for the person whom Nick gave his computer, email account, and password. Can you imagine the hoopla if the FBI gave the name as Atta after they'd cleared Nick?!?
Through cold calls and free spot inspections, he had built a client list of 50 companies by 2003.
What, no return customers? Hmm, wasn't he supposed to have gone to Iraq twice and planned on a third trip because he didn't have business prospects here? Sorry, these folks really should stick with the original script.
Another took him north to Mosul.
To see his uncle, Moffak Mustaffa, who also warned him about the dangers. Geez, another convenient ommission by the Post.
He had never been to Iran but was carrying a book about Iran and some Farsi language materials, he wrote.
Doesn't speak Farsi and has no intentions of going to Iran, okay. For someone who packs light with only his tool belt and a backpack why was he lugging these books? I suspect Nick was playing a game that was out of his league and lost.
This article does have a lot of info but it doesn't exactly ask any hard questions...and takes the word of his friends as absolute, as well as the official explanation that he was cleared in the Moussoui thing, and it completely omits the fact that he was offered a ride out of Iraq by the U.S. gov and said "no thanks."
I for one will continue to search for a story that really goes to the heart of the strange inconsistencies...rather than just chalking it up to "stupid kid who wanted to save the world." In the end that may be the case but I'm not convinced by this story.
ping
American soldiers ordered the Iraqi guards to put him in a separate cell near political and war criminals from India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran, Mr. Berg wrote.
My understanding of the article was that this was from a letter, written by Nick.
As to Michael Berg, my patience is wearing thin. He's found refuge from his grief in outrage and, thus protected, he can accuse anyone of anything. The press should ignore him; the most charitable assessment we could make is that he is insane. It seems indecent that they encourage him.
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