Posted on 05/26/2004 2:17:56 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
Certainly there are those within Islam who do not subscribe to the atrocities I am about to discuss, but their peaceful practice of Islam doesn't make it a peaceful religion. A peaceful religion is similar to that of Richard Gere and his Buddhist brethren.
Professor Moshe Sharon of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem writes:
Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world ... Judaism speaks about national salvation namely that at the end of the story, when the world becomes a better place, Israel will be in its own land, ruled by its own king and serving God. Christianity speaks about the idea that every single person in the world can be saved from his sins, while Islam speaks about ruling the world ... quoting a verse in English ... 'Allah sent Mohammed with the true religion so that it should rule over all the religions.' The idea, then, is not that the whole world would become a Muslim world at this time, but that the whole world would be subdued under the rule of Islam ... Wherever you have Islam, you will have war. It grows out of the attitude of Islamic civilization.
Consider: There are about 400 recognized terrorist groups in the world. Over 90 percent of these are Islamist groups. Over 90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamist terror movements. The vast majority of world terrorism is religiously motivated by Islam.
This includes Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan, Lebanon, Indonesia, all of the Emirates, Sudan, Philippines, India, Libya, Algeria, Malaysia, Spain, Morocco, Yemen, Syria, Tunisia, Jordan and, finally, what they call the "occupied territory" Israel. Louis Farrakhan is the face of Islam in America. Is his message one of peace?
According to a recent story in WorldNetDaily, "A British Muslim convert characterized an alleged mission to bomb the Israeli embassy in Australia as his obligation to Allah to perform jihad ..." The man went on to say, "As Muslims we are obligated to perform jihad to uphold the laws of Allah, the truth on his earth."
There have been Baptists calling for Hollywood to produce programming fit for family consumption but I cannot point to Baptists calling for Hollywood to be destroyed because it is comprised of Jews and infidels.
There exist doctrinal differences between Wesleyans, Nazarenes and charismatics most notably on the subject of glossolalia but I have never heard these groups refer to one another as infidels or call for annihilation. But true followers of Islam cannot make that claim.
According to Dr. Mark Gabriel ("Islam and Terrorism"), "There are 114 verses in the Quran that speak of love, forgiveness and peace (Meccan verses). All are abrogated by Sudah 9:5, known as 'The Verse of The Sword,' which came later in Muhammad's life (Medina):
Find and slay the pagans [non-Muslims] wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them, in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent [convert to Islam], and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, them open up a way for them: for Allah is oft forgiving, most merciful ...
Surah 9:5
I cannot think of any practicing Catholics I know who would be overjoyed if their daughter married an unrepentant atheist. But I am unwaveringly confident that their priest would not call for her to be stabbed or axed to death for having brought dishonor to the family. Yet, as WorldNetDaily reported in April, that is exactly what a Muslim Jordanian man did to his 8-months pregnant sister. And a Muslim Kurd murdered his 16-year-old daughter for starting a relationship with a Lebanese Christian boy in September 2003.
WND further reported "an anthropologist's study said dozens and probably hundreds of brutal 'honor killings' of Palestinian women and girls ... annually go unreported." Such occurrences have taken place in the United States. Some may try to dismiss or argue away these examples as anecdotal, but they are anything but.
The recent beheading of Nick Berg sickened us, but this act was practiced and sanctioned by Muhammad himself.
In an article published by Barnabas Fund on May 14, "Hundreds of Christians die in bloody massacres in Kano," the Christian Association of Nigeria reported Muslim rioters had murdered 600-plus Christians and burned 12 Christian churches in one night. Pregnant women were "ripped open and their bodies burned."
In Jersey City and Newark, N.J., it wasn't Mennonites or Methodists who celebrated in the streets as 3,000-plus Americans (Muslims included) were murdered.
Every morning of every day we read and hear of atrocities committed by fanatical Muslims. Christians are commonly politicized as being hardcore and fanatical; but decapitation is not Christian theology.
Many Muslims in this country may be peaceful, but apart from the radical activities of groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, I've not heard a cacophony of their voices. But we should. After all it wasn't Mormons standing on a bridge in Fallujah shouting Allahu Akbar (God is great) while the remains of innocent mutilated Americans burned.
When? Where? In conquered lands where non-muslims were made to be slaves?
You would have a point if:
1. You could point out examples of islamic countries today that are full of peace and tolerance. But there are none. When islam takes over, non mulsims are brutally crushed. Turkey may be the best example except they ban islamic parties from running for or holding political office.
2. At no time in the history of islam has islam been "peaceful." Even its very beaconing was one of conquests and brutality.
I know it is hard to believe, but at one point in history, the countries of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Turkey and Iraq had large populations of Christians. These countries were peacefully converted to Christianity by word of mouth.
They were conquered by Muslim armies (along with all of North Africa and Spain) and forcibly converted to Islam by the sword (conversion or death).
The spread of Islam has always been an armed invasion.
Muslims were sometimes welcomed by the Christian population because those populations were considered heretics for their beliefs and under threat of death by the Catholic Church. But as time went on more and more restrictions were heaped on the "Dhimmis or non-muslims", and, although technically regarded as "People of the Book" and permitted to practiced their religion in private, unlike other faiths which were given the alternative of death or conversion, Dhimmis suffered cruel discrimination. They couldn't participate in government, they were forbidden to carry arms, they couldn't testify against a Muslim, the could be enslaved while a Muslim could not, they could not make improvements on the exterior of their churches or synagogues, they had to wear a distinguishing badge marking them as Dhimmis, they couldn't practice their religion in public, they were forbidden under pain of death from converting or attempting to convert Muslims, and were subjugated to the same periodic pograms Jews in Europe enjoyed.
In today's Wahhabist Saudi Arabia, other religions, even other forms of Islam, are simply and totally forbidden. So things have hardly improved.
Islam was born in violence and has spread only through violence. The conversion rate TO Islam from other belief systems is only 2-3% of Muslims, maybe less.
You need to wake up.
I agree Cronos. Nazis weren´t Christian, they wanted to replace religion with their pseudo-ancient-Germanic-roots-cult. They actually tolerated Christians in very small areas of society, true Christians (not the "German Christs Organisation") were watched by the Gestapo and many of them have been arrested (and killed in KZ´s, just like Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the most prominent victim).
While in todays Germany ceremonial services for VIPs are held on big state events* (just like the election of a new President last Sunday), the Nazis did no such things. They never honored God, they only honored the Führer.
I´m not sure, but I doubt that the oath soldiers and officials had to swear ended with "So help me God." as it does today*.
*Note: since there´s freedom of religion no state official, soldier or politician has to say "So help me God." or attend to services. But it´s very common to do so.
Actually Islam is hate-filled screed that stress fear of Allah. Love, the central theme of Christianity is never mentioned. There is no free-will in Islam, destiny is predetermined by Allah the sadist God, that damns 999 out of 1000 people to hell, which is vividly described in verse after verse, while they are still in the womb. Martyrdom for Allah is therefore about the only way to get to "Heaven". Islamic heaven consists of wanton debauchery and indiscriminate sexual perversion.
There is no similiarity between the Koran and the Hebrew bible. Mohammad plagarized certain stories but they are twisted, often violently, into nonsense.
You are operating under the misrepresentations of the clueless Western media and the deliberately deceptive Muslim propoganda, see my post here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1141875/posts?page=16#16
For the full truth about Islam from an expert see here:
http://www.prophetofdoom.net
Islam is evil, inspired by Lucifer and dedicated to the subjection of this world. We are not fighting 1 billion people, we are fighting an evil idealogy that has enslaved over a billion people, the most evil idealogy I would argue. Communism and Fascism are drops in the bucket compared to Islam.
That was Mosaic Law. Christ ended the Mosaic Law. Christians do not follow the Mosaic Law (Old Testament books of law) but rather follow the law of Christ (Teachings in New Testament.
Islam as a whole is a wonderful religion that stresses obedience to God's will, prayer, and compassion.
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You could find many examples, just as horrifying, of Christian communities or countries making a massacre of Muslims, Jews, and other Christians. Does that make Christianty a criminal religion ? Are these killings ordered by God, G-d or Allah, or are they ordered by mortal men who find in religion a useful tool to further their own very earthly goals ?
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I will say that, yes, they WERE the norm. And I will say the AREN'T the norm ANYMORE.
As for ex-Yugoslavia, take your pick if you want horror stories.
As a matter of fact, yes, even if that was a few years ago. What about you ?
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