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Nick Berg had "coincidental" link to Moussoui
Fox News Alert...

Posted on 05/13/2004 2:05:20 PM PDT by kcvl

Wow!


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: answer; berg; cia; fbi; libdad; moussaoui; moussoui; nickberg; questions; terroristlinks
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To: All
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
341 posted on 05/13/2004 3:37:10 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: Southack
Nick was working on a communications tower at the Abu Ghraib prison during the mortar attacks there. If, big IF, he was helping anyone on anything, it was as a spotter for the mortar teams attacking our prison.

How hard would it be for him to install equipment that could intercept cell phone and other communications ? I assume he had the ability to provide much more data than a spotter on a pole.

342 posted on 05/13/2004 3:37:33 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: skeeter
The body has been processed, fingerprinted, etc. If it wasn't Berg we'd all know by now.

I hate to say this, but I'm starting to wonder.

343 posted on 05/13/2004 3:38:21 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Peach
"Much easier to blame it on White extremists in this country and on Rush Limbaugh and the extreme right and hate."

Couldn't help thinking at the time what a crock of poopoo that was. Scared of Rush? Well, good.
344 posted on 05/13/2004 3:38:38 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Joe Hadenuf
My braincells just are not working today, sorry.

Berg is Jewish. May (big may) have been working for terrorists. How does this look bad for Bush?
345 posted on 05/13/2004 3:38:52 PM PDT by Peach
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To: narby
"If Berg made contact with these creeps in college, then he'd continue using his own name."

Yes, but if he was CIA he would have been issued a new passport that didn't have his visa stamp in it from his visit to Israel.

What you've got to remember is that "covers" are designed or sought out for the group being infiltrated (by both sides).

American, Jewish, and telecommunications expert does NOT lend to infiltrating an Al-Qaeda cell cold.

But American, Jewish, and telecommunications expert does lend itself to convincing Americans to let you do work inside their secure compounds.

346 posted on 05/13/2004 3:39:21 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: SJackson; Hildy
Earlier on the Gibson hour on Fox, Heather interviewed a friend of Berg's in Iraq, a business partner of some sort. He said there are independent businessmen all over the country, sounds like it's swarming with guys who've gone there to work.

I read yesterday on another thread that Berg had been making 11,000 pounds a month during the time he was there.

Sounds like there's money to be made there.

The friend said Berg was living the life any 26 year old guy would want, feeling carefree and immortal (paraphrasing a bit).
347 posted on 05/13/2004 3:39:55 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Mark
Yeah, I know :-(
348 posted on 05/13/2004 3:39:57 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: SiliconValleyGuy
This whole thing smells to high heaven

More and more of us are of that opinion.
349 posted on 05/13/2004 3:41:36 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Reactionary
We would know that the body is that of Berg's. That has nothing to do with whether or not he's the person in the video.

I guess I'll have to go back over this entire thread, 'cause I can't imagine what anyone would gain by staging the decapitation of a guy who is later found decapitated.

350 posted on 05/13/2004 3:42:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: PhiKapMom
Any links you can add? Might be interesting.
351 posted on 05/13/2004 3:42:45 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (The War on Terror is mere collateral damage to the Democrats' War on Bush.)
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To: Reactionary; Peach; All
Forgot which post#, but on this
thread a news background story on
Berg was posted. It said prior to
Iraq he spent time in Uganda or
something like that, helping poor
people build houses I believe it
was. Returned home quite thin, &
explained that he shared much of
his food with the people he was
helping.

Didn't anyone but me read it?

The beard & longer hair(making it
look darker) are explained by his
wandering around & not grooming.

But I agree with the oddity of
this story.
352 posted on 05/13/2004 3:43:01 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: TheSpottedOwl

353 posted on 05/13/2004 3:43:02 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Born in a Rage
"Doesn't the CIA recruit people who are already in certain positions or have certain jobs, though?"

I won't pretend that I know the answer (I imagine they do), but I will say this: if we as normal civilians were advised not to go into a region where we could be kidnapped and our identities known, I can't see the CIA taking a risk that would be even greater.

I'll freely admit that I could be wrong...

354 posted on 05/13/2004 3:43:27 PM PDT by scott7278 ("FR will NOT be used to help replace Bush with a Democrat." -- Jim Robinson, 2/01/04)
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To: Southack
American, Jewish, and telecommunications expert does NOT lend to infiltrating an Al-Qaeda cell cold.

With my tinfoil hat firmly in place: Nick could of acted like he was a naive idealistic cell phone repair man with an ANSWER dad to make AQ think they could turn him. He offers to AQ to be the lookout on cell phone towers, but in reality he's getting intel to report back to the CIA.

Granted, I don't believe that. But this is getting weird.
355 posted on 05/13/2004 3:43:53 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Southack
Yeah right. The conspiracy theories are getting NUTTIER by the hour, and I did not expect to see them on FR....
356 posted on 05/13/2004 3:44:35 PM PDT by veronica (Sen. Robert Bryd has seen more hoods than Iraqi prisoners ever wore....)
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To: kcvl
From Northeast Intelligence Network

Translated from Arabic

Sheikh Abu Mus'ab Alzrqawy slaughters an American with his hands and threatens Bush with more

A statement to the nation

The praise of Allah for all Muslims with his support and the humiliating of those who attempt to defeat Islam and who attack it and who entice the unbelievers with their cunning.

The one that appreciated the days countries with its justice and the prayer and the greeting on from above the Islam lighthouse by its sword as for after :

The Islamic nation

You rejoice at the first signs of the dawn that have started that have granted the wind of triumph. Allah was benevolent to us in Al Fallujah, granting us victory

On one of the days of Allah and that was known to Allah alone

The Islamic nation

Does any excuse for waiting remain? How the free Muslim sleeps, with his eyelids closed.

And he sees that Islam is slaughtered and can be seen bleeding its dignity

And the shameful pictures and the news of the evil humiliation of the Islam people men and women in Ghareb 's father prison then where the jealousy and where the zeal and where the anger about the Allah's religion and where the jealousy for the Muslims sanctities and where the revenge for the honors of Muslims and Muslims is in the crosses prisons .

As for you are the Islam clerics then to Allah we complain about you, you see that Allah have founded the argument on you by the Islam young man who humiliated the strongest force in the date then broke its nose and destroyed its pride

We came to you that you learn from them the reliance meanings and derive from their doing the lessons of sacrifice and redemption to when you remain as the women you master only the slapping language and know only the way of wail and weeping

Then this appeals the world freemen and this it begs Kofi Annan and a third begs Amr Moussa and fourth he demands peaceful demonstrations and as if they did not hear to his saying ( ( O you the prophet incited the believers to the fight ) )

You were fed up with the fight of the conferences and the oratorical battles ohm came to you that you take the jihad way and carry the sword that sent by it the prophets master

And we beg from you that you do not be involved as usual in the denial of what will do it satisfaction of the Americans

He has ordered the prophet - peace be upon him - and he is master the merciful are with the slitting of the necks of some prisoners and their slow killing

And for us it is an example and a good example

As for you, the Roman dog Bush, I hope you are displeased and we wait for you with God's Help tough days and you and your soldiers today who tred Iraq's land will regret it.

And she dared in it to the Muslims fever

And another message to traitor Pervez Musharraf then we say to him that we in wait for your meeting with your soldiers

We demand of the American and will take revenge for the blood of our brothers in and Iraq and elsewhere

And as for you and the Americans soldiers wife then we say that we offered to the American administration this prisoner in exchange for some of the prisoners in Abu Ghareb prison but they refused

Then we say but if the dignity of Muslims and Muslims in Abu Ghareb prison and others is worth theur blood and souls

we tell you to know that the coffins will arrive to you one coffin after another, as your people are slaughtered in this way.........

Then you kill the polytheists where you find them and you take them and count them and place them where they can be seen.

Allah is the greatest and the honour to Allah and to its messenger and to the militants

And our last claim is that the praise of Allah is the Lord of the Worlds

Abu Mus'ab Alzrqawy
Prince of Al Tawhid group and jihad
Iraq
22 Rabi I 1425
*******************
11/5/2004


357 posted on 05/13/2004 3:45:02 PM PDT by John Lenin (Leftists's have the brainpower of a moth)
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To: txrangerette
I think it was Ghana. It was a strange story.
358 posted on 05/13/2004 3:45:04 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: VRWC_minion; Southack
how do you know he was at Abu Ghraib?
359 posted on 05/13/2004 3:45:09 PM PDT by KOZ. (i'm so bad i should be in detention)
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To: Barlowmaker
he said that Nick quit the Boy Scouts because they were going to force him to go to some military base and fire a handgun.

After having 3 sons in scouts, all I can say is that is strange. The average boy can't wait to shoot bee bee rifles let alone a pistol.

360 posted on 05/13/2004 3:45:44 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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