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salon.com contacts DFU over FR's role in murder of Nick Berg by Islamofascist Terrorist b*st*rds
email from salon.com reporter | 5-12-04 | dfu

Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland

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Apparently, I am in the middle of a controversy regarding the brutal murder of Nick Berg by the Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds.

I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record. I will either call him back on the record or he can use my comments here on the record.

Salon.com inquiry, your post on the "enemies list"
From (redacted) | 05/12/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT read

Doug,

Hello. My name is (redacted), and I'm a reporter at Salon.com. On March 7, you posted a list of signatories to an ANSWER protest; that list, which is now being discussed by a few left-leaning bloggers, includes the name of "Michael S. Berg," who is the father of Nick Berg, the man beheaded in Iraq.

It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.

So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?

I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies? Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted. I wonder what you think of that idea?

I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input. Can you e-mail or call, or let me know where to reach you? Thanks so much.

--(redacted)
Reporter, Salon.com (phone number redacted)

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NOTE: my first suggestion was to tell the report to ask ANSWER why many of the names have been removed from that original post.

Here is my post from a few months ago -- HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names

Here is the link for the following excerpt on an FR thread -- Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

Original source -- original article by Fintan Dunne

Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.

Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.

The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.

The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical Republican and relentless pro-war activism.

On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.

It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).

Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

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Here is my immediate reaction --- what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?

I can't wait for her next story. Let's set the scenario. Two guys are driving to the airport. Their upper radiator hose bursts, the car overheats, and they miss their flight. They get to the airport a few hours late and are able to catch the next plane. The plane crashes. Fintan Dunne headline: Pep Boys Implicated in Death of Innocent Travelers. If anyone could conceive such twisted logic, it would be Ms. Dunne. Without a defective radiator hose, they would have made it to the airport on time. Without a defective radiator hose they would not have been on the flight where the shoebomber detonated his loafers in the seat just behind the wing.

Do we have an official "enemies list"? If so, what do we do to them? Who is keeping track?

I will let you make some comments before I make additional on the record comments. Please don't be crazy. Think through your argument carefully. Some of this may appear on salon.com and we can perhaps help them get up to about 2 cents per share.


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To: doug from upland
I can't believe Fintan Dunne figured out this plan. I hope she doesn't start looking into the Lochness Monster or Sasquatch for her next report.
81 posted on 05/12/2004 5:04:08 PM PDT by ChuckShick (He's clerking for me...)
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To: LadyDoc; doug from upland
I believe the clincher is the fact that both are listed as working for the same private company, which as I understand it was formed and run by the son.

From the ANSWER communists' website:
"Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

82 posted on 05/12/2004 5:04:10 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Maigrey; doug from upland
The Web is being archived to keep things from going down the memory hole.

www.archive.org [The Wayback Machcine]
83 posted on 05/12/2004 5:05:31 PM PDT by George Smiley (Is the RKBA still a right if you have to get the government's permission before you can exercise it?)
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To: doug from upland
You never know, there might be a grain of truth in Salon's story...

That's why I think you should immediately post another list - one with Hillary's father, Daschle's father, Micheal Moore's father, Nancy Pelosi's father, Bill's father (if you can find him)....

84 posted on 05/12/2004 5:06:41 PM PDT by ZOOKER
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To: doug from upland
doug, even the worst lawyer I've ever known could express himself more articulately and coherently than this:

Hi you filthy scum sucking fascist pig. I'm an attorney who will be offering my services pro-bono to help Berg's family drag your ass through every civil court we can find jurisdiction in. Maybe you had better find a way to hide your assets, Robinson including the cheesy little American flag made in Mexico which is probably tied around the your car antenna. That will be the first thing we'll take so we can give it a good scrubbing and laundering since you have have touched it

85 posted on 05/12/2004 5:07:12 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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To: doug from upland
Remember when the leftists blamed Rush Limbaugh for the Oklahoma City bombing?

Same twisted logic, different day.
86 posted on 05/12/2004 5:08:15 PM PDT by ConservativeGadfly
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To: doug from upland
Do we have an official "enemies list"?

djduerkdncowmldfofj (To unscramble message please activate decoder ring)

If so, what do we do to them?

Well, I have been put in charge of making funny faces and throwing popcorn at Al Franken and Gray Davis when they show up in those horrible Yahoo! commercials.

Who is keeping track?

We are on the honor system.

87 posted on 05/12/2004 5:08:25 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Stalin's grave is just another communist plot.)
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To: doug from upland
Doug, you might check the wayback machine to see what old pages (and lists of names) it has archived.

If any of the archives contain the same list that you have, that would negate this.
88 posted on 05/12/2004 5:08:28 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: doug from upland
I just checked on Yahoo yellow pages...there are 34 Bergs in West Chester Pennsylvania, 8 Burgs and two Borks.

And that's just the BUSINESS yellow pages.

As I said, a very very common name, especially in a suburb with a lot of Jewish residents...
89 posted on 05/12/2004 5:09:01 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: doug from upland
" and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group--"

lol....I can see their paranoid postings over at democrat underground now. "The CIA killed Nick Berg and made it look like Islamic fanatics."

hehe, look out demonrats, you could be next;^)
90 posted on 05/12/2004 5:09:33 PM PDT by monday
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To: doug from upland
What in the hell kind of a name is 'Fintan'?

Thats not one of those Irish Lefties like Boner is it?

91 posted on 05/12/2004 5:09:49 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: doug from upland
Oooohhh... "yourworstenenemy@aol.com" - yeah, that sounds like an attorney to be afraid of, all right. Can't even get his email addy spelled right. LOL!
92 posted on 05/12/2004 5:11:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Izzy Dunne
Geez... hey... wait a minute. I thought it was the right wing nuts who believe in consipiracy theories. You mean I've had it wrong this entire time? UGH!
93 posted on 05/12/2004 5:11:12 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (VRWC ID NUMBER 0028943523121 MAJIC)
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To: DoctorMichael; Fintan
Care to share a cigar?
94 posted on 05/12/2004 5:11:17 PM PDT by alisasny (John Kerry is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.)
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To: doug from upland
I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input.

An "along came the Spider" line

My analyst instincts says be very careful...It smells like a hit piece in the making. The premise is a stretch and weak. Looks like ANSWER scrubbed their site and called in the press to attack the FR. My observation is that Liberals will never call another Liberal a liar.


95 posted on 05/12/2004 5:11:32 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: monday
hey, stop that... you're "spook"'n me. =)
96 posted on 05/12/2004 5:12:36 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (VRWC ID NUMBER 0028943523121 MAJIC)
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To: doug from upland
I posted a picture of my cats on FR, of which you are a member. Now one of them has eaten parts of a houseplant, and is throwing up all over the living room floor.

You bastard!
97 posted on 05/12/2004 5:12:56 PM PDT by spodefly (A 12.7mm attitude in a .17 caliber world, or something.)
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To: doug from upland
The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.

Let's dissect this:
official story...implying that this is the explanation simply for public consumption?
dubious aspects...implying parts of the story are not to be believed? Why not? real reason...implying there were some sort of ulterior motives for his arrest..VRWC?
plausible explanation...only if one suspends all reason.

Salon simply stumbled across a coincidence- Berg's father's name appears on the website of the Left's nemesis: FR.
How convenient for the tin-foil-hat brigade.
98 posted on 05/12/2004 5:14:22 PM PDT by visualops
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To: doug from upland; Jim Robinson; NYer; jmstein7; RogerFGay; All
"The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death. Hi you filthy scum sucking fascist pig. I'm an attorney who will be offering my services pro-bono to help Berg's family drag your ass through every civil court we can find jurisdiction in. Maybe you had better find a way to hide your assets, Robinson including the cheesy little American flag made in Mexico which is probably tied around the your car antenna. That will be the first thing we'll take so we can give it a good scrubbing and laundering since you have have touched it."

For anyone who considered my first post on this thread as tinfoil nonsense...here is the proof that it was a reasonable thought.

We all need to stick together on this. Ping your lists, folks.

99 posted on 05/12/2004 5:14:35 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: doug from upland
All your list are belong to us!
LOL
100 posted on 05/12/2004 5:14:38 PM PDT by DocRock (Nuke em until they glow, then shoot em in the dark!)
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