Video on Islamic militant Web site appears to show beheading of American

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Video on Islamic militant Web site appears to show beheading of American

[k2blader]

Exactly.

[snotter]

These f#ckers are all the same. In Algeria they cut the throats of there own people "fellow muslins". But the cowards normally do this to woman, children and the old. These wankers (sorry British slang)can't even reveal their true identities and have to cover their faces. You know why? Because we would come and hunt you down and ensure you end up looking like the two sons of Saddam did when we got hold of them. Can not wait until the handover of Iraq. Then we can pull out and leave these sorry bastards to kill off each other.

[Spunky]

The b*st*rd's are trying to blame this on the handling of the prisoners but I have been thinking and wondering.

Has anyone noticed how complicit the prisoner's were who were photographed? I don't recall seeing that they were handcuffed or their hands tied behind there back or any such manner of restraint.

Sure they had sacks over their heads, but I can tell you if it had of been me in that situation I would have been fighting to the bitter end. And remember these Al Quaida would give their lives for 72 virgins.

I know my thoughts are a conspiracy theory but what about the possibility that those 6-7 military personnel were sympathetic to Muslims and those pictures were all staged to cause the Bush administration trouble.

[LibertyGirl77]

There wasn't anything surgical about it. I just watched it. I'm still shaking. He was just sitting there while they read a statement in Arabic for about 5 minutes. I'm sure he thought he was being held for ransom or something. At the end of the statement, the terrorists suddenly started singing/chanting/screaming (it was chilling), grabbed Nick, forced him to the ground and started sawing his head off while he screamed and screamed.

I am starting to understand the "Nuke Mecca" crowd a little better.

[Delta 21]

These kind are not a part of "CIVILization"

All the followers of Mohammad can be martyred at will.

[kcat]

Well then I would advise you not to search latest posts to see who this beheaded boy's father blames.

[knak]

OMG. That's all I can say. Prayers for this man and his family.

Nuke the bastards.

[TomGuy]

Berg family via AP Nick Berg in a family photo.

The whiningLibs are responsible for this man's horrific death!

[texasflower]

General Taguba clearly doesn't have any respect for General Karpinski. He is disgusted with her emotions, her failure to take responsibility and her willingness to blame everyone else for the problem.

He faults her for all of these things, plus her absence from the prison area, leaving everything unsupervised.

If the offending general had been a male, he might have felt the same way. There's no way of knowing that. He has 32 or 33 years in the military, so I have no doubt that he is old school in his thinking.

About his feelings regarding Rumsfeld. I had replied to you about this, but it probably got lost in the flurry of messages on this thread.

So, I'll just copy it here again.

***General Taguba had many opportunities to get Rumsfeld and he didn't do it.

Over and over he emphasized that the problem was at the battalion level and down.

He said it several times. There wasn't even any hedging or any tiny opening to blame Rumsfeld.

He may not like Rumsfeld, I don't know anything about him, but he appears to have done his job professionally and left personal grudges out of it.****

Anyway, be sure and watch the replay on c-span later. You will come to the same conclusion I'm sure.

I'd be interested in how you see it. If you think about it, give me a post and let me know.

[Howlin]

I already saw it; and I'm on my way to make a donation to Bush-Cheney 2004.

That guy is an ANSWER member.

[StillProud2BeFree]

Nope Al Jazeera hasn't reported it. They are too busy reporting stuff like this (from the AJ website)

Exclusive: Iraqi family tells of torture
By Ahmed Janabi
Tuesday 11 May 2004, 16:01 Makka Time, 13:01 GMT
Aljazeera.net has obtained detailed information of an Iraqi prisoner reportedly abused by US-appointed law enforcers. He died shortly after being released on a hefty bail.

[So Cal Rocket]

I just got back from Bush's re-election website... I made my third donation to the re-election campaign.

[job]

I disagree. Kids don't need to see it, but everyone else does. Everyone needs to know who we are fighting, their ethos, their moral character, their evil spirit.

Eisenhower made the German citizens march through the concentration camps, and made them work in them. He wanted them to know what atrocities had been committed.

To turn your head to this is to try to escape the abject reality of knowing the evil that thrives in that part of the world. You turn your head long enough, and these beheadings will happen in the US.

[DAPFE8900]

Bingo i watched one and i couldnt stop thinking about the poor soul that they did it to..His family his mother and father..I was thinking that this is the most brutal sect or cult of religion ever...I mean the nazis were bad but the islamofasist would do hundred fold worst to the world if they could... ANd the dems dont care they see it as not a threat just like not a threat before 9-11.
I HATE DEMS AND ISLAMOFACISTS

[laughing_gas]

CNN not even mentioning the beheading. They are just continuing the hysteria about the "disgusting" photos in the prison.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Having just seen the video in it's entirety about 10 minutes ago, I can only really CAUTION people NOT to see it if they think they might have "second thoughts". It is a very high quality video, with zoom in on the actual beheading.

The image will indeed stick with you, and may even cause the fainthearted to pass out. I recommend to the poster who saw it an hour ago and who is still shaking, to get off the internet and get yourself involved in some activity immediately to get your mind off of it before you have a chance to imprint it too deeply...otherwise you are able to get a good case of the ol' PTSD.

What a horrific video. Wow.

I've seen some things, but that was graphic, cruel and animal in nature. Those thugs must be wiped from the face of the earth, and their women made barren so they cannot produce a new generation of terrorists. Seriously.

[job]

You have hit the nail on the head. The very big, major problem not enough people will ever care to believe you.

[Frank_Discussion]

I am sorry, Prarie. It does indeed suck.

[Mo1]

I need to leave the computer to go calm down .. I am so angry I'm afraid of what I'll say next

If anything happens .. can you please ping me

[VOA]

Thank you General Taguba.

Maybe, maybe not.

Captain Dale Dye (USMC, ret.) devoted about an hour of his radio show (KFI 640AM
in Los Angeles; www.kfi640.com; 5-7PM PAC Time, Sundays) to the history of the scandal.

Dye said that Gen. Sanchez kept hearing rumors of prisoner abuse, so dispatched one
high-ranking officer to investigate...and got back a "nothing there" report.

BUT Gen. Sanchez still kept hearing rumors, then dispatched Taguba to double-check.
And Taguba managed to crack it open.

Now Taguba may have an agenda (NewMax article?) but until that gets fleshed out
I'll reserve judgement on Taguba for now.
Sounds like he did his job...so far.