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Hanging out the Troops (Hackworth Fails to Mention 17 Senators)
David Hackworth ^ | May 10, 2004 | David HAckworth

Posted on 05/10/2004 12:55:20 PM PDT by Republican Red

As an American citizen, I’m ashamed of the atrocities committed by Americans in Iraq. As a former professional soldier, I’m appalled not only by what has happened in the prisons there, but also by our military leadership. From the very top of the Pentagon down to the 320th Military Police Battalion, the brass have spent months covering up obscene behavior while placing the sole blame on Joe and Jill Grunt.

The damage to our country and our just war on terrorism is already devastating. And these war crimes not only diminish the sacrifices of our gallant soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, they place the troops at even greater risk. But I’m certain that these abhorrent acts wouldn’t have occurred had the right kind of leadership been exercised by the chain of command.

In 1951 in Korea, I was told by my commanding officer to kill four POWs and refused his direct order. I well remembered the Nazi generals’ sorry rationale for their despicable conduct: “We were just following orders.” I would get booted out of the Army before I went that route.

In 1965 in Vietnam, I saw a very connected intelligence captain torturing a POW with a field-telephone wire attached to his testicles and decided my personal belief system outweighed his father’s four stars. When I told him I’d shoot him if he didn’t cease and desist, the atrocity came to a screeching halt.

On both occasions, I knew I had the moral right. I’d been taught from the first day I put on a U.S. Army uniform that American soldiers don’t follow unlawful orders and that it was my duty to stop or report an illegal act. I also believed strongly that when dealing with POWs, “There but for the grace of God go I.”

The vast majority of our regular soldiers today are likewise well-trained, well-disciplined and have similar values. And they’ve conducted themselves during the occupation of Iraq in a manner that aptly reflects what America is all about.

But, unfortunately, this is not always the case with many Army Reserve and National Guard units that have been deployed overseas since 9/11. In fact, I’ve worn out several drums beating the readiness issue during face-to-face meetings with the top brass. As far back as 1989, I warned Secretary of the Army Mike Stone about the generally sad shape of our Reserve and Guard components. But while he listened up, little was done to correct the systemic problems.

And now, because Mr. Rumsfeld and too many of his generals are into a fast-fix mode, the Pentagon has been dispatching Reserve and Guard units to combat zones even when they aren’t good to go. For example, I know of two enhanced infantry brigades that were rated as not combat-ready by Training Center commanders but were still sent to Iraq because boots were needed on the ground.

Retired Master Sgt. William Lawson, who brought the atrocity story to SFTT.org, says the 800th Military Police Brigade is a prime example: “My nephew Chip, who’s been charged with war crimes, wasn’t trained to be a prison guard. He was a part-time soldier marginally trained for even conventional military police (MP) work. But Chip was such a good soldier that he was selected to escort Gen. Myers, the chairman of the Joint Staff, when Chip was guarding the vice president right after 9/11. Myers gave him both great reviews and his personal coin.”

“The bedrock truth about the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison is that they were so easily preventable,” adds SFTT (Soldiers for the Truth) Vice President Roger Charles, who researched this story for CBS News. “But that prevention required a recognition that the top people in the 800th were ill-prepared, incompetent and uncaring. The evidence clearly shows that the Department of the Army mafia was more concerned about protecting the image of the brigade commanding general, Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, than holding her and her officers accountable for the terrible situation, which they allowed to fester for months.”

Speaking of Karpinski, she’s received only a mild slap on the wrist as the brass were circling the wagons. Not a good sign that our country’s commanders intend to own up to their respective roles in this catastrophic breach of human rights, which will have consequences we all will have to pay for many years to come.

Col. David H. Hackworth (USA Ret.) is SFTT.org co-founder and Senior Military Columnist for DefenseWatch magazine. For information on his many books, go to his home page at Hackworth.com, where you can sign in for his free weekly Defending America. Send mail to P.O. Box 11179, Greenwich, CT 06831. His newest book is “Steel My Soldiers’ Hearts.” © 2004 David H. Hackworth. Please send Feedback responses to dwfeedback@yahoo.com.


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To: AlbionGirl
"This man gave a lot to his Country, and that can't be forgotten!"

Yes, one time HACKworth did serve his country...all of which has been more then forgotten by his self-serving conduct and lack of personal honor. He now sells out our troops for a hand full of silver and some air time.

101 posted on 05/10/2004 3:39:45 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: AlbionGirl
This man gave a lot to his Country, and that can't be forgotten!

I am a student of History. Benedict Arnold gave a lot to his Country unless he became angry at events not proceeding according to his wont. Afterward his actions became treasonous, and that can't be forgotten !.

Put Col. Hackworth under oath and find out what he did. Investigate all his claims.

102 posted on 05/10/2004 3:42:19 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Republican Red
hack,hack,hack...sorry I have a bad cough...
103 posted on 05/10/2004 3:44:56 PM PDT by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: RichInOC
Good tag line. I'm wondering if any of the accused or other participants have stood up and taken responsibility for their actions. There seems to be the standard Democratic Party theme here of perverted behavior and non responsibility.
104 posted on 05/10/2004 3:45:31 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: CWOJackson
You may have forgotten, I have not.

And as far as the following is concerned,
He now sells out our troops for a hand full of silver and some air time.

You're entitled to your opinion, of course, it isn't one I share however. And again, and as I wrote to af-vet, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

105 posted on 05/10/2004 3:46:50 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ("We sleep soundly at night because rough men are willing to commit violence on our behalf.")
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To: AlbionGirl
"You may have forgotten, I have not."

That's the problem...I will never forget all of HACKworths efforts to enrich himself at the expense of the people in uniform and any personal honor he may have ever had.

I will never forget that this POS is more concerned with getting his French looking face on TV then with protecting the lives of our people in Iraq.

Forget...no way.

106 posted on 05/10/2004 3:48:54 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: af_vet_1981
Fine, give me a holler once the treason charge is brought forth and made plain. In the meantime we're not going to agree, so this to and fro is pretty pointless.

You have nothing concrete to disuade me from my views, I have nothing concrete to disuade you from yours. Difference is I don't really feel the need to disuade you. I'm perfectly happy to let you hold and keep your opinion as I don't find it threatening to mine. I'm just responding to your posts to me out of courtesy.

107 posted on 05/10/2004 3:54:02 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ("We sleep soundly at night because rough men are willing to commit violence on our behalf.")
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To: LADY J
I - I - I - It's all about ME and my superior knowledge that goes beyond all the military brass. Why don't they check with ME first before making decisions!!

Have you read his book Steel My Soldiers' Hearts? If not, you have no idea how true your statement above is!

You can't help but think he's got an ulterior motive in everything he does, and lying and distorting facts are just a minor rung on the ladder towards whatever he wants...

108 posted on 05/10/2004 3:55:05 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Oh boy, I can't wait to eat that monkey!"--Abe Simpson)
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To: Future Snake Eater
"Have you read his book Steel My Soldiers' Hearts? If not, you have no idea how true your statement above is!"

I have not read his book but have watched him on TV many times. He used to be on a lot.

His latest stunt is really over the top. He should be ashamed!

109 posted on 05/10/2004 4:00:09 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: jwalsh07
I just received another reply from Hack, I will say one thing about him he does reply when called out.

From Hack:

Pls show me where I said I hated the Prez. Sure said this about
Clinton -
many times - Bush never. Just show me..

Thx you for your service. Hack

Notice he never denies his political reasonings, or why he did it which I called him out on. I will reply on this one too if I can find the evidence.
110 posted on 05/10/2004 4:00:58 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually Voted for John Kerry before I voted against Him)
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To: DonaldDuke; highlandbreeze
Still top billing on Hack's forum too. No disrespect to LP of course.

Date: 5-10-2004 Author: AmericanBand
Location: noyb
Rank: noyb

Oh, I made a small mistake about one of the sites on which your boy Olmholt posts as SKYDRIFTER. That would be freedomunderground.org, not .com.

And his libertypost.org scribblings (its an antisemitic hate site) can be found here: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/latestcomments.cgi?Fm=skydrifter&To=&SNSearch=+Go+ &PN=

For even more Olmholt fun - http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm

111 posted on 05/10/2004 4:05:09 PM PDT by SJackson (Slaughter the Jews wherever you find them. Their spilled blood pleases Allah, Haj Amin el-Husseini)
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To: marron
"You don't go to war with the army you ought to have, or wish you had. You go with the army you have. If that means drawing on reserve and guard units, thats what you do."

And we were at war from 9/11/2001. What did SSG Frederick's Reserve unit do during monthly drills and annual training from the moment we were at war until they were called upon to deploy to the Middle East? The unit had to have a training schedule that was approved by higher headquarters as getting them mission ready. Did they adhere to the schedule or not?

I just can't get sympathetic toward a E-6 who claims he lacks the basic skills to perform his assigned duties. He is expected to lead and look out for the interests of his subordinates. And that includes making sure they get as realistic training as possible. If the pre-deployment training was inadequate SSG Frederick should have raised the matter then. Are there records of him complaining about lack of training before deployment?
112 posted on 05/10/2004 4:09:37 PM PDT by Poodlebrain
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To: aft_lizard
I just sent him a message asking what PFC Maupin, an American POW held by the bad guys will think of his part in the picture release.
113 posted on 05/10/2004 4:17:28 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: LADY J
His book is a fasinating trip into a an over inflated ego and very bitter POS. He tells the reader how great he is all the time, and constantly blames his failures on everyone else.
114 posted on 05/10/2004 4:20:54 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: jwalsh07
Better yet, ask him how many pieces of silver her earned this time selling the safety of our troops out.
115 posted on 05/10/2004 4:22:13 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Here you go Chief, you ask him. :-}
116 posted on 05/10/2004 4:27:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: CWOJackson
HACKworth stopped responding to me a long time ago when I asked similar questions.
117 posted on 05/10/2004 4:30:27 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: marron
... We expect our soldiers to be men of character, and while that means you don't commit atrocities, it also means you don't lose sight of your moral war aims.
Thankyou, marron. This is the kind of thoughtful posting that makes FR so valuable!
118 posted on 05/10/2004 4:31:05 PM PDT by CCCnative (waiting for socialism to fail in Santa Cruz as it did in Soviet Russia)
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To: jwalsh07
Hackworth coming up on Hardball shortly...
119 posted on 05/10/2004 4:39:00 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: CWOJackson
He's coming up on Hardball in a few minutes....
120 posted on 05/10/2004 4:39:34 PM PDT by cyncooper
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