Do You Condemn Rush Limbaugh (ZOT!!! How to wear out your welcome here.)

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[Anti-Bush Hater]

Do You Condemn Rush Limbaugh?

May 7, 2004

Listen to Rush… (…prove why this torture picture scandal is really just political) (…play more audio of "the media" politicking and pointing at El Rushbo)

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Let's go to the NBC Nightly News last night. Chip Reid, reporter, is doing a report on the uproar on Capitol Hill over the possible resignation of Rumsfeld. He's on with Brokaw. He says, "Now a backlash from many conservative Republicans today during debate in the House on a resolution to condemn the Iraqi abuse some Republicans also condemned the Democrats accusing them of using the issue to score political points against the Bush administration."

Then plays DeLay saying, "Democratic leadership's decided to take a political position and is undermining our troops in the field." And Reid says, "conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh is now leading the charge in accusing the media and the Democrats of hyping the Iraqi abuse story." And he played this clip from yesterday's show.

RUSH ARCHIVE: Welcome to the real world. They're not pictures of violence, they're not pictures of death, they're not pictures of horror. I am not going to join the chorus of people who aren't even thinking, who are just reacting with emotions.

REID: The abuse of Iraqi prisoners, a story that was initially greeted with bipartisan revulsion, now at the center of a furious political debate.

RUSH: And then last night, or yesterday afternoon on Crossfire, The Forehead was on there hosting on the left side. Paul Begala who was on with Novak, and they had a couple of guests, Bob Wexler, the congressman from down here in Florida, a Democrat, and Republican Eric Cantor. And The Forehead said to Cantor, said, "Congressman Cantor, in the last segment you said, and I quote, 'You have to be accountable for the words you use.' Well, Rush Limbaugh says what happened over there was no different than a fraternity initiation. He said these guys just blowing off some steam, having a good time. Do you endorse or condemn Rush Limbaugh's words?"

CANTOR: I do not take lightly the incidents that occurred in Iraq. No question, the individuals responsible need to be held accountable. The president said as much --

BEGALA: Do you condemn Limbaugh?

CANTOR: I do not necessarily agree with what was said, no.

WEXLER: I condemn him.

RUSH: So the question on Crossfire was, "Do you condemn Limbaugh?" Now, why? Why on the NBC Nightly News and why on Crossfire does my name come up, and why do I have to be challenged? I don't mind that I am, don't misunderstand, but, "Do you condemn Limbaugh?" "I condemn Limbaugh." So Wexler's got his hand up, gets a badge of honor, he condemned Limbaugh. And then on NBC, of all the people they could go out there and play highlights of. What do you think, Mr. Snerdley, what's the reason for this? What is the reason? [talking to program observer] No! The '04 election is all politics now, but I'm just going to tell you what I think, folks, I'm not going to hold back.

I think the reason that I have to be condemned, and they've got to play sound bites from this show, and have people pooh-pooh it is because it's effective. It's because there's one voice in this country that's contrary to the herd, to the mentality here that has picked up steam; and everybody is in that herd, and everybody is making a rush in that certain direction, and there's one voice out there which is saying, "Whoa, wait a minute, this is not what everybody is saying it is." And because it is political, Mr. Snerdley, you're right, because it is political, and of course they're not playing me in context. I don't care about that.

The point is that they're using me because I'm the most prominent, maybe not the only, but I'm the most prominent voice that's not in this pack mentality. And since this is political, they have got to play this voice of mine and have people refute it and say it's not right. It's wrong or it's condemnable, or some sort of thing proving that this is political. Because I'm not an elected official. I'm not part of the Joint Chiefs. I'm not in the command structure. I'm not in the chain of command at all, and yet I have to somehow be condemned and discredited? It proves it's politics, folks!

COMMERCIAL BREAK

RUSH: Let's go back and review some of the sound bites I played earlier that mention me. And again, I want you people to understand that this is simply to show you that there is a total political context here rather than some serious supposed outrage over abuse.

Now, I'm not saying there isn't any of that, that's not what this is. This is an opportunity. This is a political opportunity for opponents of the president that continue to take more shots where there's blood in the water and so they're do doing everything they can to win this election for John Kerry since he's so inept at doing it himself. How else do you explain the NBC Nightly News, Crossfire, and the White House press briefing bringing me up in official questions to elected officials about my opinion of this? I'm not elected, I'm not in the chain of command, I have no authority over anybody involved in any of this. And yet, as you will hear, I'm either be criticized or illustrated as an example of the opposition. Criticized on Crossfire as a man who needs to be condemned, and being asked by a reporter of the White House press spokesman whether or not the president disavows what I'm saying or agrees with it.

If that doesn't illustrate to you that this is political and since I am a voice that has not joined the pack on this, and this is a media-led frenzy, "Okay, let's do what we can do to nullify this disagreeing voice or discredit it or what have you." First example, NBC Nightly News last night with Tom Brokaw, Chip Reid is the reporter doing the report on the uproar on Capitol Hill about the possible resignation about Rumsfeld, about which I have seen nothing in these hearings so far, by the way. And Chip Reid starts out talking about a backlash from many conservative Republicans and a debate, resolution in the Florida house, and he quotes Tom DeLay saying the Democratic leadership has decided to take a political position undermining our troops in the field. Then he says, conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh now leading the charge. "Conservative talk show host, Rush Limbaugh, leading the charge in accusing the media and Democrats of hyping the Iraqi abuse story."

(Replaying of sound bite.)

RUSH: Now, don't give me this business that it was initially greeted with bipartisan revulsion. That's a little bit of misinformation. Doesn't mean it was greeted with bipartisan condemnation and agreement with the liberal left and the media on this. Now, here's Crossfire, you've got The Forehead, Paul Begala, representing the left. The guests are Congressman Eric Cantor, he's a Republican from Virginia, and Bob Wexler from down here in Florida. He's the guy that all those mistaken Buchanan voters called to complain during 2000. And The Forehead says, "Congressman Cantor, in the last segment you said, and I quote, 'You have to be accountable for the words you use.' Well, Rush Limbaugh says what happened over there was no different than a fraternity initiation. He said these guys were blowing off some steam, having a good time. Do you endorse or do you condemn Rush Limbaugh's words?"

(Replaying of sound bite.)

RUSH: "I condemn Limbaugh!" I condemn -- do you condemn -- this is Crossfire. I'm proud to be there, don't misunderstand, but if this doesn't prove it's political. I know nobody saw it, that's why I'm playing it.

Let's go to the White House press briefing, not much time here, White House daily press briefing, Scott McClellan. You're going to hear the voice of April Ryan, infobabe reporterette for the American Urban Radio Network.

RYAN: There's a segment of society that differs with the White House as it relates to these pictures and the investigation of U.S. soldiers' conduct to include Rush Limbaugh, who Tuesday, agreed with a caller equating the pictures to a college fraternity prank and said U.S. soldiers should not be punished because it was an emotional release as they were letting off steam. What's the White House say about that?

MCCLELLAN: April, I think the White House says what we said yesterday and what the president has said over last few days.

RYAN: No, seriously, this man is a conservative --

MCCLELLAN: I actually answered a question earlier today about that matter, and I addressed it then.

RYAN: But to stand out strongly trying to let the Arab world know that this is wrong, and then you have the proverbial spokesperson for the conservative party saying this, doesn't that send a mixed message?

MCCLELLAN: I think the president's views have been made very clear.

RUSH: Do you get this? "Isn't this conservative party spokesman, Limbaugh, isn't this a mixed message? Can't you guys disavow?" Oh, my friends. I'm just a kid from Missouri that wanted to be on the radio.

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(Fox: Democrats Call for Rumsfeld to Resign) (Philadelphia Inquirer: Rumsfeld Could Take Fall for Abuse Scandal)

[Darksheare]

I had some Trinitite somewhere in my collection of rocks and such, somewhere.
Won't be able to ID it in my whole jumble of glassy stuff without a geiger counter though.

[DoctorMichael]

"....was one of the 2,188 people who visited Trinity on April 3, 2004......"

Cool! I've always wondered about whether you could visit the site.

Have you read the 2 Richard Rhodes books THE MAKING OF....., & DARK SUN? The pages describing the first few milliseconds of the explosions is really compelling writing. I enjoyed them both.

[sweetliberty]

ROTFLMBO! Not sure exactly how you meant that, but I know how I took it.

[ladyinred]

Perhaps I ought to have used other words to describe Rush. A few that I can think of are: pompous, arrogant, smug, self-centered, egotistical...I think you're getting the picture.

You DO know that is an act don't you? Of course you do.

[IfYouSaySo]

I have some Trinitite I picked up when I lived in Socorro in the late '70s. I understand its not hot, but I wouldn't tape it to my forehead. If you don't mind my asking, where did you get yours?

[sweetliberty]

So at what point did the troll get toasted? Did anybody roast marshmallows?

[blam]

I remember the dark days when there wasn't a Rush Limbaugh. I think to many people are beginning to take him for granted. Go Rush!

[cyborg]

hehehehe I should have said one thing anti-bush hater doesn't GET.

[sweetliberty]

ROTFL!

[Darksheare]

From my father, who'd picked it up somewhere along the line.
He said something about it emitting something(alpha?) particles and that it wouldn't be prudent to cart it around in my pocket.
(It's glassy, why would I want to? *chuckle*)

Didn't pay attention to where and how he got his hands on it.
I'll have to ask him about it.
Of course, I'm likely to get the same answer I got about the brown flourite crystals I have that are on egrey limestone.
"Uhh.. I don't remember."
*sigh*

[buffyt]

Rush is right about 99.99% of the time. The ONLY time he irritates me is when he doesn't believe that mental illness is real. Or any kind of mental problems, like OCD, ADD, Hyperactive, etc. We have so much of it in my family. My dad was ADD. My mom is hyper. At 77 she is still a whirlwind, as is her 89 year old hyper sister. I quit trying LONG ago to keep up with those two! But Rush believes in hearing problems, and drug addiction.

[Darksheare]

Dunno.
Anti-bush hater got himself banned sometime around post 100 something.
They were gone when I got in thread.

[buffyt]

I LOVE Rush. I agree with him MOST of the time and with politics he is 100% correct -- and when he makes predictions, they come true.

[Esther Ruth]

"I LOVE Rush. I agree with him MOST of the time and with politics he is 100% correct -- and when he makes predictions, they come true."

I love Rush also, he is always right, he has the bestest sense of humor ever, he is the sweetest of sweethearts and and the dearest of dears and I thank the Lord we all have him so much and God Bless him and Keep him safe and healthy!!

[COEXERJ145]

I've read just about every book relating to the Manhattan Project. My senior thesis was on nuclear weapons and their use in WWII.

You can take the Trinity Tour twice a year. It is on the first Saturday in April and October. Since Trinity is on the White Sands Missile Range, you can only get there one of two ways. You can either come in at the Stallion Range Center which is at the northern part of WSMR. The way I went was with the convoy from Alamogordo. It is setup by the Chamber of Commerce and leaves around 8:00 A.M. It has a police escort the entire way so it doesn't stop for traffic lights or stop signs. Once you reach the base, there is an I.D. check before proceeding. (Took about 30 minutes for the entire convoy to be checked.) Then you drive on to Trinity.

http://www.atomictourist.com/

http://www.alamogordo.com/activites/trinty.html

http://www.wsmr.army.mil/paopage/Pages/Trinst.htm

[COEXERJ145]

Trinitite is fairly harmless. A couple of years ago someone at WSMR did a test to see if it could ruin film. They put a piece next to an unexposed roll of film for 24 hours. They then used the roll and developed it. There was not any fogging of the pictures.

The only way to know for sure if a piece is real trinitite is to check it with nuclear energy spectroscopy to measure the level of radioactive decay. From what I understand, trinitite produces a very specific pattern that cannot be faked. (I'm not a nuclear physicist so I don't understand it exactly but people have created fake trinitite in the past and made it slightly radioactive so this is the only way to be sure.)

At the site, there is a piece of the crater floor that is covered in a foot of sand and has a building protecting it. Under the sand is a sheet of trinitite that is to be preserved for the future. They do however put out some small pieces for people to see.

[Let's Roll]

Excellent tagline.

[IfYouSaySo]

The last time I was out at Trinity site I came in from Stallion Gate by Socorro and decided to exit at Alamogordo (Gotta Love them Beehive hairdos). I did not realize that you had to be in a convoy for Alamogordo and got to the T where you would go Right for Socorro and Left for Alamogordo. I turned on my blinker to go left and waited for the MP to signal me. I was driving a truck with a Sandia Lab sticker and wearing a gold braid NASA cap---I looked like a Techie. After some hesitation, I lifted my hands in the universal WTF sign and the MP signaled me left. I got lost. The roads are not marked. Finally, I found a MP that looked to be sleeping in his jeep and got directions to Alamogordo. When I got to the Southern Gate, the guards had kittens. The first thing out of their mouths was "How did you get here?" I resisted the impulse to claim I'd pushed the truck most of the way. After about 1/2 an hour I was on my way.

I don't recall a building that houses any of the crater floor. In fact, as I recall, the Army ran off with the glass bowl under the bomb a long time ago.

[Twinkie]

Do listen for a while and that wind will blow the
liberal fuzz out of your head in just a little while.
When I first heard him, probably 15 yrs. ago, riding
in the car with my husband I absolutely could not take
another minute of it. Arrogant! I fumed, Conceited! I
thought. Then I caught the self-deprecating humor in
much of what he was saying and began to realize that here
is a man who has the guts to say what I've been thinking
For the most part, I agree with him on most things.
Sometimes he goes over the top and talks a bit naughty.
When he does that, I listen to something else. He is a
rare thing, a thinking man.

[COEXERJ145]

The building covering the piece of the crater floor was added in 1984. You can clearly see it in the upper part of the fenced in area.

There is a small door that is opened to let people look inside and see some pieces of trinitite.

(This picture is actually one I took @ Trinity.)