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Scientists Confront 'Weird Life' on Other Worlds
SPACE.com ^ | Friday, May 7, 2004 | Leonard David

Posted on 05/08/2004 7:08:27 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon

WASHINGTON, D.C. – What are the limits of organic life in planetary systems? It’s a heady question that, if answered, may reveal just how crowded the cosmos could be with alien biology.

A study arm of the National Academy of Sciences, the National Research Council (NRC), has pulled together a task group of specialists to tackle the issue of alternative life forms -- a.k.a. "weird life".

To get things rolling, a workshop on the prospects for finding life on other worlds is being held here May 10-11. The meeting is a joint activity of the NRC’s Space Studies Board's Task Group on the Limits of Organic Life in Planetary Systems and the Committee on the Origin and Evolution of Life.

Sessions on Earth biology, possible Mars habitats, looking for life on Europa -- a moon of Jupiter -- as well as on Titan, a natural satellite of Saturn, are featured topics on the wide-ranging meeting agenda.

Alternative chemistries

The newly formed study group has some big issues to get their arms around.

Possible alternative chemistries for life are to be evaluated, with an eye toward the prospect that non-standard chemistry may support life in known solar system and conceivable extra-solar environments.

Additionally, the task group is to define broad areas that might guide NASA, the National Science Foundation, and other relevant agencies and organizations to fund efforts to expand scientific knowledge in this area.

Overall, the programmatic goal of the study is singling out research avenues that will appraise the likelihood of "non-terran" life and the potential cost needed to find it. From this will come a recommendation "whether the likelihood of finding non-terran life is sufficiently low that NASA should ignore its possibility, or sufficiently high that it should pursue it," according to a study document.

"This is the first NRC project I have been involved with where scientists have actively been volunteering to serve on the committee. We usually have to corner candidates and then start twisting arms," said David Smith, Study Director for the NRC’s Space Studies Board.

"I have been struck from the very beginning that this was a project that could easily be dismissed as science fiction," Smith said. "However, all the scientists we have spoken to about this have required very little persuasion that this was a worthwhile project."

Boxed in beliefs

"We need to get a real understanding of what carbon is capable of in terms of life," said Michael Meyer, Senior Scientist for Astrobiology here at NASA Headquarters.

"We don’t want to end up just focused on only looking for DNA-type molecules…but we do want to look for anything carrying information that is carbon-based."

Meyer said the meeting will bring together some of the brightest minds. Their duty is to think outside the biological box that is the norm. Those discussions can help NASA build the right tools that have the potential of finding something unexpected, he said.

"You have to keep in mind…we know what life is on this planet and we still haven’t figured out how it got started. We have the basic ingredients…but it has proven to be a difficult problem for something that we know exists," Meyer said. "So if you’re going to start looking at things that we don’t know exist, you don’t want to try every possible scenario. You want to make sure you look for things that are reasonably possible."

Search for life…on Earth

There are two things that astrobiology does, Meyer said. One is that it forms the intellectual foundation for our understanding of the potential for life elsewhere in the universe. Part of this intellectual effort is to determine -- as is the case for Titan, a moon of Saturn -- whether or not life is possible there, theoretically.

The other half of the astrobiology effort, Meyer said, is to help guide what kind of life-detection instruments should be made.

"We’re going through a tremendous biological boon in learning so much about life on this planet. A lot of this advancement is due to remarkable techniques that have been developed that are extremely sensitive, but also highly specific," Meyer said.

"But that very sensitivity, because of its specificity, makes it almost useless in the quest to look for life elsewhere. That is, unless life elsewhere is made of exactly the same building blocks that were made out of and using similar sequences. So what we need to do is come up with more general ways to look for life…but increase the sensitivity in order to find that life," Meyer noted.

There is an interesting twist to the search for life elsewhere in the cosmos. You might stumble on previously unknown life right here on Earth.

"If we come up with techniques, knowing the organisms that we’re looking for, we might find some organisms here on Earth previously not known, much less finding things on other planetary bodies," Meyer said.

Weird worlds

"I think this kind of topic has always grasped human imagination," said Dirk Schulze-Makuch, Assistant Professor in the Department of Geological Sciences at the University of Texas, El Paso. "Now, finally we begin to have some understanding what kind of expectations and constraints on possible extraterrestrial life are reasonable," he told SPACE.com.

The timing is especially suitable, Schulze-Makuch said, because the NASA Cassini spacecraft will arrive in the Saturnian system in July, with Europe’s Huygens probe to be released onto Titan in early 2005.

"Titan is the ‘weirdest’ of planeatary bodies in our Solar System -- meaning different from Earth -- possessing hydrocarbon surface bodies and methane rain. Thus, if life would have gained a foothold on Titan with environmental conditions so different from Earth, it should be ‘weird’ indeed, and should function differently in many ways than we experience life on Earth.

Schulze-Makuch will take part in the upcoming workshop, outlining possible microbial habitats and metabolisms on Titan.

Universal surprises

"This is an important workshop," said Jonathan Lunine, Professor of Planetary Sciences and of Physics, and chair of the Theoretical Astrophysics Program at the University of Arizona in Tucson. He is a guest presenter at next week’s meeting.

"In the search for life elsewhere in the solar system, we tend to plan for life as we know it…even down to the nucleic acid bases or base sequences used in organisms elsewhere," Lunine said. "What if they don't use DNA? Or RNA? Or linear information-bearing polymers? Do they have to use liquid water as the universal biosolvent?" The universe has surprised us before with its variety, Lunine added, in spite of the simplicity and small number of fundamental physical laws.

"Yet our imagination hasn't been very good at envisioning how strange or unexpected life might be," Lunine concluded.


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To: Momaw Nadon
OK, how did you make a post that does not have a "To " indicating who you are replying to
41 posted on 05/08/2004 8:48:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,this is like liberal logic,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø))
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To: Momaw Nadon
If its "weird life" don't you need "WEIRD SCIENCE" to study it???
42 posted on 05/08/2004 8:49:55 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: DoctorMichael

43 posted on 05/08/2004 8:50:08 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: Reeses
At some point computers will have to be included as well. What's cool about that is we are their God. Will they worship us someday or be embarrassed?

Their fundamentalists will probably proclaim that we created each one instantaneously, and consider the idea that we assembled each slowly through engineering as heretical.

44 posted on 05/08/2004 8:53:53 AM PDT by SedVictaCatoni
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To: Mr. K
OK, how did you make a post that does not have a "To " indicating who you are replying to

Just make the "To:" field blank.

45 posted on 05/08/2004 8:56:13 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: ColoradoSlim
".....from God's glorious "creation", "evolved" our amazing and beautiful universe....."

I could not agree more! Thank you for posting THIS statement BEFORE the usual crowd shows up and spins the Thread into oblivion. Furthermore:

"......Many of the world greatest scientists of the last several centuries were Christians......"

Spot on.

46 posted on 05/08/2004 8:56:29 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Are you implying that Gerrald Nadler is a life-form?


47 posted on 05/08/2004 8:59:00 AM PDT by EggsAckley (........"I looked out and saw rifles everywhere. That's when I felt safe." .........)
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To: Momaw Nadon; All
Thanks! I used the right HTML code copied from a 'HTML Sandbox' Thread I have bookmarked, but it didn't work. Oh well.

Notice 'C' (Element #6) is right above #14 (Silicon) indicating these elements have the same electronic configuration.

48 posted on 05/08/2004 9:01:10 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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49 posted on 05/08/2004 9:01:53 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I don't have many problems with Greek "classical" thought. Much of our present day science and Western culture has is very roots grounded in ancient Greece. We plan on teaching our children Greek as well as Latin when they are old enough.
50 posted on 05/08/2004 9:01:58 AM PDT by ColoradoSlim (rotate the pod.....open the pod bay doors)
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To: van_erwin
It's a freakshow a few blocks east of me in NYC.
51 posted on 05/08/2004 9:11:36 AM PDT by thoughtomator (yesterday Kabul, today Baghdad, tomorrow Damascus)
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To: DoctorMichael
Many of the world greatest scientists of the last several centuries were Christians

As are many of today's. So what?

52 posted on 05/08/2004 9:27:54 AM PDT by donh
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To: Momaw Nadon

53 posted on 05/08/2004 9:31:54 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: cripplecreek
The Horta is a remarkably perceptive creature, with impeccable taste.
54 posted on 05/08/2004 9:56:42 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: null and void
Sulfur and silicon, maybe...

Something tells me that sulfur or silicon based life forms wouldn't taste very good.

55 posted on 05/08/2004 9:58:11 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: donh
So what?

To listen to the disparaging remarks made by some of our fellow posters here at FR on numerous Threads, scientists are to be shunned because it is assumed they are irreligious. Thats what.

56 posted on 05/08/2004 10:02:52 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Sessions on Earth biology, possible Mars habitats, looking for life on Europa -- a moon of Jupiter -- as well as on Titan, a natural satellite of Saturn, are featured topics on the wide-ranging meeting agenda.

I thought they found the monolith on the moon.
57 posted on 05/08/2004 10:06:34 AM PDT by microgood
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To: All
I think it was Alan Turing that proposed that eventually, we'd send tiny physical automata to the astroid belt, to mine and manufacture endless copies of themselves, in order to eventually ship processed materials back to us, and send scouts on to the rest of a solar system, and, eventually, galaxy.

...

There is a theory about the origins of life I don't recall seeing bandied about here on FR. The Silicon-Carbon Flip-Flop holds that organic life was constructed by silicon life of advanced intelligence, as a way of trying to get computing power of a different sort, in that getting more silicon computer power seemed to have reached a dead-end addressing combinatorially explosive problems, in uncovering the nature of the universe.

Eventually, but much sooner than inherent computational limits begin to pinch, carbon-based life, which is inherently more flexible, produces silicon-based life.

So...the purpose of life on earth is to create un-date-able four-eyed hackers who live in the basements of computer science institutes, and live on coca-cola: aint the majestic cosmic cycle awesome?

58 posted on 05/08/2004 10:30:18 AM PDT by donh
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59 posted on 05/08/2004 10:32:30 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: thoughtomator
Hang around Berkely for a few days and you'll really think you've been tranported to a whole other solar system.
60 posted on 05/08/2004 10:39:28 AM PDT by attiladhun2
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