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In Nature vs. Nurture, A Voice for Nature
MIT ^ | 5/5/04 | Nicholas Wade

Posted on 05/05/2004 11:31:33 PM PDT by tpaine

In Nature vs. Nurture, a Voice for Nature

By NICHOLAS WADE

Who should define human nature? When the biologist Edward O. Wilson set out to do so in his 1975 book "Sociobiology," he was assailed by left-wing colleagues who portrayed his description of genetically shaped human behaviors as a threat to the political principles of equal rights and a just society.

Since then, a storm has threatened anyone who prominently asserts that politically sensitive aspects of human nature might be molded by the genes. So biologists, despite their increasing knowledge from the decoding of the human genome and other advances, are still distinctly reluctant to challenge the notion that human behavior is largely shaped by environment and culture. The role of genes in shaping differences between individuals or sexes or races has become a matter of touchiness, even taboo. A determined effort to break this silence and make it safer for biologists to discuss what they know about the genetics of human nature has now been begun by Dr. Steven Pinker, a psychologist of language at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In a book being published by Viking at the end of this month, "The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature," he seeks to create greater political elbow room for those engaged in the study of the ways genes shape human behavior. "If I am an advocate, it is for discoveries about human nature that have been ignored or suppressed in modern discussions of human affairs," he writes.

A principal theme of Dr. Pinker's argument is that the blank slaters — the critics of sociobiology and their many adherents in the social sciences — have sought to base the political ideals of equal rights and equal opportunity on a false biological premise: that all human minds are equal because they are equally blank, equally free of innate, genetically shaped, abilities and behaviors.

The politics and the science must be disentangled, Dr. Pinker argues. Equal rights and equal opportunities are moral principles, he says, not empirical hypotheses about human nature, and they do not require a biological justification, especially not a false one. Moreover, the blank slate doctrine has political consequences that have been far from benign, in Dr. Pinker's view. It encourages totalitarian regimes to excesses of social engineering. It perverts education and child-rearing, loading unmerited guilt on parents for their children's failures.

In his book he reproaches those who in his view have politicized the study of human nature from both the left and the right, though in practice more of his fire is directed against the left, particularly the critics of sociobiology. They have created a climate in which "discoveries about human nature were greeted with fear and loathing because they were thought to threaten progressive ideals," he writes.

He accuses two of them — Dr. Richard Lewontin, a population geneticist at Harvard, and the late Dr. Stephen J. Gould, a historian of science — of "25 years of pointless attacks" on Dr. Wilson and on Dr. Richard Dawkins, author of "The Selfish Gene," for allegedly saying certain aspects of behavior are genetically determined.

And he chides the sociobiology critics for turning a scholarly debate "into harassment, slurs, misrepresentation, doctored quotations, and, most recently, blood libel." In a recent case, two anthropologists accused Dr. James Neel, a founder of modern human genetics, and Dr. Napoleon Chagnon, a social anthropologist, of killing the Yanomamö people of Brazil to test genetic theories of human behavior, a charge Dr. Pinker analyzes as without basis in fact.

With this preemptive strike in place, Dr. Pinker sets out his view of what science can now say about human nature. This includes many of the ideas laid out by Dr. Wilson in "Sociobiology" and "On Human Nature," updated by recent work in evolutionary psychology and other fields.

Dr. Pinker argues that significant innate behavioral differences exist between individuals and between men and women. Discussing child-rearing, he says that children's characters are shaped by their genes, by their peer group and by chance experiences; parents cannot mold their children's nature, nor should they wish to, any more than they can redesign that of their spouses. Those little slates are not as blank as they may seem.

Dr. Pinker has little time for two other doctrines often allied with the Blank Slate. One is "the Ghost in the Machine," the assumption of an immaterial soul that lies beyond the reach of neuroscience, and he criticizes the religious right for thwarting research with embryonic stem cells on the ground that a soul is lurking within. The third member of Dr. Pinker's unholy trinity is "the Noble Savage," the idea that the default state of human nature is mild, pacific and unacquisitive. Dr. Pinker believes, to the contrary, that dominance and violence are universal; that human societies are more given to an ethos of reciprocity than to communal sharing; that intelligence and character are in part inherited, meaning that "some degree of inequality will arise even in perfectly fair economic systems," and that all societies are ethnocentric and easily roused to racial hatred. Following in part the economist Thomas Sowell, he distinguishes between a leftist utopian vision of human nature (the mind is a blank slate, man is a Noble Savage, traditional institutions are the problem) and the tragic vision preferred by the right (man is the problem; family, creed and Adam Smith's Invisible Hand are the solutions).

"My own view is that the new sciences of human nature really do vindicate some version of the tragic vision and undermine the utopian outlook that until recently dominated large segments of intellectual life," he writes.

With "The Blank Slate," Dr. Pinker has left the safe territory of irregular verbs. But during a conversation in his quiet Victorian house a few blocks from the bustle of Harvard Square, he seemed confident of dodging the explosions that have rocked his predecessors. "Wilson didn't know what he was getting into and had no idea it would cause such a ruckus," he said. "This book is about the ruckus; it's about why people are so upset." "It's conceivable that if you say anything is innate, people will say you are racist, but the climate has changed," he says. "I don't actually believe that the I.Q. gap is genetic, so I didn't say anything nearly as inflammatory as Herrnstein and Murray," the authors of the 1994 book "The Bell Curve," who argued that inborn differences in intelligence explain much of the economic inequality in American society.

Despite his confidence, Dr. Pinker is explicitly trying to set off an avalanche. He compares the overthrow of the blank slate view to another scientific revolution with fraught moral consequences, that of Galileo's rejection of the church's ideas about astronomy. "We are now living, I think, through a similar transition," he writes, because the blank slate, like the medieval church's tidy hierarchy of the cosmos, is "a doctrine that is widely embraced as a rationale for meaning and morality and that is under assault from the sciences of the day."

Dr. Pinker is not the fire-breathing kind of revolutionary. He has a thick mop of curly brown hair, edged respectably with gray, and a mild, almost diffident manner. A writer for the Canadian magazine Macleans described Dr. Pinker, who was born in Montreal, as "endearingly Canadian: polite, soft-spoken, attentive to what others say." Teased about this description, he notes that Canadians also gave the world ice hockey. Born in 1954, he grew up in the city's Jewish community, in the neighborhood described in Mordecai Richler's novel "The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz." He was caught up in the debates of the 60's and 70's about social organization and human nature, but found his teenage anarchist views of the nobility of human nature dealt a sharp empirical refutation by the Montreal police strike of 1969; in the absence of authority, Montrealers turned immediately to lawlessness, robbing 6 banks and looting 100 stores before the Mounties restored order. Trained as an experimental psychologist at Harvard, Dr. Pinker took up the study of language and became convinced that the brain's linguistic ability must rest on built-in circuitry. This made him think other faculties and behaviors could be innate, despite the unpopularity of the idea. "People think the worst environmental explanation is preferable to the best innatist explanation," he says.

Dr. Pinker first became known outside his specialty through his 1994 book "The Language Instinct," an approachable account of how the brain is constructed to learn language. He followed up that success with "How the Mind Works," in which he shared his enthusiasm for the ideas of evolutionary psychology. "The Blank Slate" further broadens his ambit from neuroscience to political and social theory.

Like Edward O. Wilson, who began as a specialist in ants and mastered ever larger swaths of biology, Dr. Pinker has a gift of summarizing other specialists' works into themes that are larger than their parts. Synthesisers are rare animals in the academic zoo because they risk being savaged by those whose territory they invade. "Everything in the study of human behavior is controversial, and if you try to sum it up you will ride roughshod over specialists, so you've got to have a strong stomach," Dr. Pinker said.

The critics of sociobiology caricatured their opponents as "determinists," even though few, if any, people believe human nature is fully determined by the genes. Could Dr. Pinker's description of the Blank Slate similarly overstate their views? He says he shows at length how critics like Dr. Lewontin have made statements that "are really not too far from the collection of positions that I call the Blank Slate," with Dr. Lewontin and others having even written a book called "Not in Our Genes."

Though Dr. Pinker believes the politics and science of human nature should be disentangled, that does not mean political arrangements should ignore or ride roughshod over human nature. To the contrary, a good political system "should mobilize some parts of human nature to rein in other parts." The framers of the Constitution took great interest in human nature and "by almost any measure of human well-being, Western democracies are better," he says.

Dr. Pinker believes that human nature "will increasingly be explained by the sciences of mind, brain, genes and evolution." But if political and social systems should be designed around human nature, won't that give enormous power to the psychologists, neuroscientists, and geneticists are in a position to say what human nature is?

"It's a game anyone should be able to play if they do their homework," he says, "so I hope it wouldn't become the exclusive province of a scientific priesthood."


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Interesing theory..

-- Anyone out there have any more articles by [or about] Pinker that outline his politics?

1 posted on 05/05/2004 11:31:34 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Anyone who has raised children knows there is a lot of truth to this. They have their own personalities, talents and proclivities from the moment they're born. You can steer them a little and encourage certain things, but you can't alter their nature.
I've noticed it with puppies as well.
2 posted on 05/06/2004 12:07:27 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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To: elmer fudd
How well I know.
My kids turned out fine..

But being saddled with a non-birdy brittany bitch for 14 years was sheer agony.
3 posted on 05/06/2004 12:20:58 AM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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To: elmer fudd; tpaine; gonzo
Anyone who has raised children knows there is a lot of truth to this. They have their own personalities, talents and proclivities from the moment they're born. You can steer them a little and encourage certain things, but you can't alter their nature.

While I agree that we are all born with certain proclivities and predilections, I still maintain that nurture has an immense part in what we do and become. Nature can indeed be powerful, but nurture has more say in what a person will be.

Let me offer an analogy. Intelligence. Nature can bestow a person with natural intellect, and hence a greater acuity for learning and hence what the world would generally term ‘smarts.’ However, let’s say Joe (who was born naturally bright), is brought into this world in some seedy borough whose immediate populace does not hold education in high regard. And let us also say crime is considered a veritable ‘employment,’ and a viable source of income. Joe, under those circumstances, will most probably not grow up to become a doctor or physicist. He will most probably become a business man, a smart one at that –very efficient ……the only caveat with be that the ‘business’ he is dealing with is drugs.

Now, that is only one permutation, but it is a significant one for someone born is such an environment.

Let me give another example …myself. From the time I was born until I was in standard 3 (3rd grade), I was told that I was a slow-learner, and suffered from some sort of learning disability. Everyone believed that ……everyone apart from my grandmother. She refused to believe I couldn’t read or write, and took me under her wing for 2 months, teaching me to read and write with cards and stuff.

by the time I was in the fourth grade I was by far more adept than any of the other kids, and by the time I went to high school my acumen was established. When I moved the US (and went to college) I had virtually no competition.

Now, based on nature my mind was inundated under a deluge of learning inabilities and what-not. My grand-mom said ‘hogwash,’ refused to listen to the experts, and proved them wrong through nurture.

A simple (but in an overt manner socially unacceptable) experiment would be to take an Asian-American kid (just born) and have them raised under the typical ghetto environment, and to take a Puerto-Rican baby and have them raised in an opulent Connecticut suburb where the general occupation is Investments and the parents are legacies at Yale. Then come back 25 years later and have a look at what the kids are doing.

I believe you’d agree nurture would win over nature.

4 posted on 05/06/2004 12:28:30 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
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To: tpaine
Sure - there's quite a bit out on and by Dr. Steven Pinker. He's one of several authors seeking to establish what I would call a secular foundation for freedom and morality. His writings are perhaps the most readable of these authors. Another that I like is Daniel C. Dennett.

See further:


5 posted on 05/06/2004 12:40:10 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (I was humble, before I was born. -- J Frondeur Kerry)
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To: spetznaz
In a sense, the real debate here is not about nature versus nuture, but about freedom and moral responsibility.

When I skim what you wrote, I read it as saying "no, my destiny is not determined by my DNA - I get to choose".

When the blank slate crowd claims it essentially all nuture, they are introducing the position that since we all start out pretty much the same, it must be society's fault if we don't end up equal. They are pushing the tyranny of equal results, not equal opportunity.

When Pinker tears down the blank slate crowd, and when Dennett lays out a strong secular basis for freedom and moral responsibility, they are both working to dismantle the philosophical basis of modern liberalism, and to restore a basis for individual freedom and responsibility that has been lost by those who do not have a strong belief in God.

They are providing a scientific basis for what ordinary Christians find in their faith and their readings of the Bible - a basis for freedom and a moral order that it is our duty to protect and honor.

6 posted on 05/06/2004 12:54:01 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (I was humble, before I was born. -- J Frondeur Kerry)
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To: spetznaz; tpaine; elmer fudd; ThePythonicCow
"...I believe you’d agree nurture would win over nature..."

On-The-Whole, I'd agree with you, spetz. Nurture is critical, but evolution is equally important.

The gene-pool has to be constantly increased for Cro-Magnon to continue to evolve. The life-experiences of all humans has to continue to increase and mix, so that we can continue to get better at this stuff called 'living'.

I usually get kicked-off these threads..................FRegards

7 posted on 05/06/2004 1:04:01 AM PDT by gonzo (Look, it's not easy dealing with Tourettes' Syndrome, SO CUT ME SOME F%CKING SLACK!!..........)
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To: beaversmom
Ping to me to read later.
8 posted on 05/06/2004 1:39:43 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: elmer fudd
Yes! How Pinker himself came late in the day to hereditarianism was by hearing of differences between children in families of his friends -- differences which cannot be attributed to 'family influences' as normally envisaged.

Maybe Pinker will eventually move on to recognize race differences?...

For reviews (incl. one by me) see http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/flex-sign-in/ref=cm_rate_rev_pagepos3/102-1760608-1135305#rated-review.
9 posted on 05/06/2004 3:44:41 AM PDT by Chris Brand
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To: tpaine
the problem with nature vs nurture is that personalities are neurologically innate.

However, many nurture factors shape how that personality expresses itself.

Also, things like IQ are determined by nutrition and pollution and contamination in the environment (lead can occur naturally in water, or from industrial contamination, and can lead to ADD.)

And IQ can improve with stimulation. For example, at the turn of the century, both the Irish and the Jewish immigrants were considered "retarded" by those who believed in eugenics. Nowadays, the highest college graduation rate is in Jewish and Irish children...look at all the comments about dumb rednecks. That was because of poor nutrition and hookworm that was recognized and eliminated in the 1930's. And in Africa, the tribal people were smart, but when I worked in a city, many I worked with were very slow mentally, which surprised me, until I realized that tribal Africans were breastfed for two years, and the city children were breast fed only a few months and then given formula and (because formula was expensive) mainly carbohydrates in their diet, leading to poor brain development.
10 posted on 05/06/2004 4:53:19 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: tpaine
Anyone out there have any more articles by [or about] Pinker that outline his politics?

As you know, I highly recommend 'The Blank Slate'. Briefly, Pinker rejects most of the sacred cows of the left, with regard to gender differences, behavior, etc.. You probably won't agree with his politics in toto, which are probably moderate democrat; but at least you'll see an honest justification of his arguments, not a list of leftist pieties.

. He's very careful about race, and which of us could blame him?. He acknowledges that there may be average differences between populations, but that these differences are small compared with the variance within populations. This is fine and scientifically justifiable. He claims that personally he doesn't think there is sufficent evidence for a genetic origin for racial differences in the US, and cites Sowell extensively. Again, while I personally think the evidence is stronger than he says, his position is at least not violently inconsistent with the evidence.

His position on AA is a rare one, which might be characterized as 'honest leftist'. He says its necessary, because it's socially necessary for each group to have the possibility of success. But he doesn't adhere to any of the redistributive 'justifications' for AA; he just says that, whatever the origins for currently different outcomes, you can't have a society where the average prospects for identifiable groups are hugely different. IMO, this is an unusual and courageous position. Both right and left, for different ideological reasons, refuse to consider the possibility that given total equal opportunity, outcomes might be different as a result of genetics - and very different in professions which require extreme abilities. If equal opportunity led to a medical profession that is as different from the general population as, say, the NBA is, what do you do? Do you tell a promising kid from an underrepresented group that, while on paper he has the same chance as anyone else, statistically he has only a tiny chance of becoming a doctor? Even if you don't tell him that, he's a smart kid, he'll figure it out. On the other hand, if you do try to 'adjust' the outcome, then you have an identifiable sub-group within the medical proferssion that is less qualified, on average; in effect, you've made racism rational.

Anyone who says this is an easy problem with a clear solution isn't thinking about it enough. Pinker cannot be accused of that.

11 posted on 05/06/2004 5:12:43 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: spetznaz; yall
A simple (but in an overt manner socially unacceptable) experiment would be to take an Asian-American kid (just born) and have them raised under the typical ghetto environment, and to take a Puerto-Rican baby and have them raised in an opulent Connecticut suburb where the general occupation is Investments and the parents are legacies at Yale. Then come back 25 years later and have a look at what the kids are doing.

I believe you'd agree nurture would win over nature.
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Twins, separated at birth & raised in totally different environments, who then turn out, as adults, to be social mirror images, suggest that nature wins over nurture, compellingly..
12 posted on 05/06/2004 7:26:58 AM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Thanks for the links..
I'll keep searching for an article on the political ramifications of his theory.
13 posted on 05/06/2004 7:31:22 AM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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To: tpaine
Ah - I missed the word 'politics' in your initial query - sorry. Good luck with the search.
14 posted on 05/06/2004 7:34:02 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (I was humble, before I was born. -- J Frondeur Kerry)
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To: LadyDoc
LadyDoc wrote:

the problem with nature vs nurture is that personalities are neurologically innate. However, many nurture factors shape how that personality expresses itself.

I found Pinkers views on our 'innate' abilities & behaviors, and how he ties them into political consequenses, to be the best part of this essay:

-- A principal theme of Dr. Pinker's argument is that the blank slaters — the critics of sociobiology and their many adherents in the social sciences — have sought to base the political ideals of equal rights and equal opportunity on a false biological premise: that all human minds are equal because they are equally blank, equally free of innate, genetically shaped, abilities and behaviors.

The politics and the science must be disentangled, Dr. Pinker argues.
Equal rights and equal opportunities are moral principles, he says, not empirical hypotheses about human nature, and they do not require a biological justification, especially not a false one. Moreover, the blank slate doctrine has political consequences that have been far from benign, in Dr. Pinker's view.
It encourages totalitarian regimes to excesses of social engineering.
It perverts education and child-rearing, loading unmerited guilt on parents for their children's failures.

In his book he reproaches those who in his view have politicized the study of human nature from both the left and the right, though in practice more of his fire is directed against the left, particularly the critics of sociobiology. They have created a climate in which "discoveries about human nature were greeted with fear and loathing because they were thought to threaten progressive ideals," he writes.

15 posted on 05/06/2004 7:56:20 AM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Right Wing Professor wrote:

As you know, I highly recommend 'The Blank Slate'. Briefly, Pinker rejects most of the sacred cows of the left, with regard to gender differences, behavior, etc..

You probably won't agree with his politics in toto, which are probably moderate democrat; but at least you'll see an honest justification of his arguments, not a list of leftist pieties.

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The more I read of him, the more I see a constitutional/libertarian slant to his conclusions.

[Which gives him a political kiss of death to many on this board, of course.]

Thanks again for your input.

16 posted on 05/06/2004 8:05:37 AM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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To: gonzo
I usually get kicked-off these threads..................FRegards

I can't imagine anyone with such an awesome screen name as "gonzo" being kicked off of any FR threads....

17 posted on 05/06/2004 8:43:25 AM PDT by Ronzo (GOD alone is enough.)
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To: tpaine
"My own view is that the new sciences of human nature really do vindicate some version of the tragic vision and undermine the utopian outlook that until recently dominated large segments of intellectual life," he writes.

This is quite an admission! Science is finally finding enough proof for that which orthodox Christians have known for 2,000 years: man is a sinful creature.

18 posted on 05/06/2004 8:53:52 AM PDT by Ronzo (GOD alone is enough.)
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To: betty boop
PING! To a very interesting article about Pinker posted by tpaine....
19 posted on 05/06/2004 8:55:15 AM PDT by Ronzo (GOD alone is enough.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
If equal opportunity led to a medical profession that is as different from the general population as, say, the NBA is, what do you do?

I believe that as science continues to develop stronger theories regarding genetic predisposition, the Left will abandon their current 'Blank Slate' platform. After they get over the discomfort of recognizing the obvious, they will embrace what will turn out to be an unassailable argument in favor of permanent AA.

You touch on it lightly with your NBA analogy. However, a more accurate depiction of the future would be something similar to current policies regarding public support of the infirm, blind, etc. If it turns out that it isn't so much desire, hard work, strong morals, etc. that lead to success, but pure chance (ie no one gets to decide their inheritable traits), how can a society continue to pretend that everyone has an equal opportunity?

20 posted on 05/06/2004 9:05:26 AM PDT by Snerfling
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