Freedom Tower to Get July 4 Groundbreaking

FoxNews ^ | 5/5/04 | AP

[wagglebee]

NEW YORK — Developers of the Freedom Tower (search) will break ground on the 1,776-foot skyscraper at the World Trade Center site on July 4, The Associated Press learned Wednesday.

"On July 4, as we commemorate the founding of our nation, we lay the foundation for our resurgence," Gov. George E. Pataki said in prepared remarks obtained by The Associated Press. "On July 4, as fireworks burst in the sky, ephemeral reminders of our liberty, we will begin to reclaim our skyline with a permanent symbol of our freedom."

[wagglebee]

OBL and his friends are living in caves, Saddam is in a jail cell and America is building the tallest building in the world. More bad news for the left . . .

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Can't wait until it's completed...

[speedy]

Glad to hear this. I will make a point of being there, and I'm sure some of our fellow NYC Freepers will do the same (beats sitting on the LIE in a vain effort to get to the Hamptons.)

[HitmanLV]

Building this structure in this time is unwise. There is no way the bad guys will let this get built. Long term, go for it. For now, be smart.

[Sofa King]

Thanks for the tip, Monsieur Chirac.

[HitmanLV]

Nope, I'm not Chirac. I am a NYer who lived about 1/3 of a mile from what used to be the WTC.

There just isn't a smart way to secure the construction site for what will be the tallest building in the world for the years it will take to build it. No way - 1000s of people, trucks, supplies, lunchtrucks, etc, coming in and out all day, every day.

The idea that we could secure this construction site from a very dedicated suicide squad isn't a wise one.

Posturing and bravado won't make this building go up and stay up. It might make some people feel good, and that's fine. But I just don't see how the site can be secured. Nor can I see a defense system for the next hijacked plane that decides to take a shortcut through 'Freedom Tower.'

Build a nice, tasteful memorial park. Anything else is avarice. People will die.

This isn't a liberal-conservative issue at all. It's just smart.

[martin_fierro]

[muslims=borg]

These terrorists have like 10 year time horizons so whats the point in waiting. If we are going to do it we might as well start. They already started building a 50 story building across the street. I can't wait for this to start going up, I work there. It will be a great feeling seeing the steel rising.

[Sofa King]

"The idea that we could secure this construction site from a very dedicated suicide squad isn't a wise one."

And this differs from every other target terrorists could choose? Should we just shut down the entire country?

That was the whole idea of taking the war to THEM, remember?

[Blue Highway]

I liked the idea of them rebuilding the twin towers

TeamTwinTowers.org

[Blue Highway]

[HitmanLV]

And this differs from every other target terrorists could choose?

Distinguishing this structure from most others is easy. If you can't do it, you must need mental help.

This structure is at the site of the original WTC, which was completely destroyed. (The Pentagon was dented but not completely destroyed).

It is a Stateside and NYC target that the Islamofascists have aleady hit, in some cases multiple times (the WTC was attacked as you know in 1993 and in 2001).

It is also a very ambitious structure - other structures around the country are nowhere near the 1776 feet of the planned new structure.

Other structures have nowhere near the notoriety and notability of the WTC site.

Other structures won't need the added security for the construction site, though basic security is always necessary.

I agree that we should take the war to THEM (all capitals as you insist, for some reason). But that's not to say that it won't be fought here also. 'Freedom Tower' is one big arrogant obnoxious target.

People will die.

[Sofa King]

"Other structures have nowhere near the notoriety and notability of the WTC site."

Oh, so the terrorists will just leave us alone as long as we don't try to re-build? They'll just say "Oh, well, we can't attack them right now, they don't have anything with the notoriety of the WTC site!"

[ryanjb2]

The WTC towers should be rebuilt exactly as they were, except 1 story higher.

[nmh]

"The WTC towers should be rebuilt exactly as they were, except 1 story higher."

I agree - complete with alittle swaying on windy days.

[HitmanLV]

Grow up. I didn't suggest that. You made that self serving remark up and are imputing it to me. That's unfair and totally offbase.

I support the war on terror and in fact wish it were more agressive.

I never suggested the terrorists would leave us alone. I don't know where you got that. Again, you made it up and impute it to me.

In fact, things will get worse before they get better. Many folks don't like to think that but I know its true.

We as a nation will get hit again whether we rebuild or not. I didn't speak to that issue and it is unclear why you would confuse that. That's not the point.

What I am saying is simple: Securing the construction site for the tallest building in the world in NYC at the site of the worst terrorist attack in our nation's history during a protracted war on terror, where we have not taken enough steps domestically to secure our border, cancel student and work visas, etc.

Again, people will die. And for what? A 'Freedom Tower' project that will have to be abandoned because a bomb will blow up on the site once every week to 10 days.

So someone in Louisiana can pump up his fist and say 'bring it on,' and feel good about himself? That's a pretty safe distance to be talking like a hero, son.

[Sofa King]

"Grow up. I didn't suggest that. You made that self serving remark up and are imputing it to me. That's unfair and totally offbase."

It was the end result of your logic. To say 'we can't rebuild because if we do we'll be attacked' has the natural implication that if we don't rebuild, we won't be attacked. If you don't like the conclusion, then you need to re-think your position, not attack me for pointing it out.

"So someone in Louisiana can pump up his fist and say 'bring it on,' and feel good about himself? That's a pretty safe distance to be talking like a hero, son."

So who's forcing you to work at the construction site?

[HitmanLV]

Actually that's wrong. It is not the end result of my logic.

Here goes:

I said we shouldn't rebuild at the WTC site now because it would be a very vuilnerable target during this time of war.

I didn't speak to any macro conclusion like you (wrongly) came up with. "If we don't rebuild, we won't be attacked." has nothing to do with it. It is odd that you would come to that conclusion - it makes no sense, big picture wise.

All I was saying is, and I am correct, that it is going to be difficult and not worthwhile to try and secure the construction site of such a fat, slow, and vulnerable target.

That does not specifically speak to any other targets or hits we might or might not endure, notwithstaning. In fact, I was explicit about that last point in my last post. Talk about pointing things out - you either can't or won't follow the thought process properly.

As for your words about forcing people to work at a construction site, they are shallow and immature. Nobody signs on to a domestic constuction job with the understanding that they might get murdered.

When people die because of terrorist sabotage at the construction site on a regular frequency, a remark like yours won't be very welcome. In fact, it suggests some kind of mental illness.

[Sofa King]

"I didn't speak to any macro conclusion like you (wrongly) came up with. "If we don't rebuild, we won't be attacked." has nothing to do with it."

So then you're suggesting that this site differs fundamentally from the rest of the country. Not just a matter of it being more vulnerable because it's a construction site, because, or being a more obvious target. Construction sites will always be harder to secure and tall buildings will always be more obvious targets. So, for the above to not be a macro conclusion, then this site has to, somehow, follow a completely different set of rules than any other place in the country.

"In fact, I was explicit about that last point in my last post. Talk about pointing things out - you either can't or won't follow the thought process properly."

It might have something to do with my not being able to jump over the gaping hole.

"As for your words about forcing people to work at a construction site, they are shallow and immature. Nobody signs on to a domestic constuction job with the understanding that they might get murdered."

Well then you'll be proven wrong if they get a crew to work on the site.

[HitmanLV]

You clearly have difficulty understaning the english language.

I did not suggest the site differs fundamentally from the rest of the country. I explicitly said so. There was no suggestion - you can't distinguish between suggestions and explicit statements.

This site is unique because of a combination of the history of the site, the location, and how this compounds the unique demands of securing not simply a tall building, but what will be the tallest building in the world.

Whether you are unwilling or unable to see this speaks volumes for you.

Your macro analysis is patently wrong, simpleminded, shallow, and ignorant of the nuances of the location. This is explicitly a different situation and a different set of rules are appropriate.

There is no suggestion here, it is explicit. There is no gaping hole, I am sorry to report. The WTC site is, indeed, different that sites all over the country. Suggesting anything else is denial.

As for getting a crew, again, you show an unwillingness or an inability to read and comprehend. They will get a crew - I don't doubt that. Very quickly they will become victims of domestic terrorist attacks. Many will die. Many will leave. Then they will have to pay people more to work there. At that point, people will knowingly and willingly be free to sign on or decline the project with the understanding that they in fact may get murdered.

"Nobody forced them." Well, nice words from your safe perch in Louisiana, son.