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An Open letter to President Bush (End run vs. Outsourcing)
Me | Me

Posted on 04/09/2004 12:22:04 PM PDT by Havoc

Dear Mr. President,

You don't know me, nor do I expect you to. But I'm one of those voices out here in the ether that actually did vote for you. I'm not one of those seminar caller types nor a Democrat pretending at being a republican to subvert the party faithful in dishonest fashion because their ideas aren't popular enough to win them anything. No, I'm a life-long republican who cherishes the memory of Ronald Reagan and who thought highly of you right up to the time you sunk a knife in my back economically.

Sir I understand it's a hard job being president. I also understand that in IT my job causes me to have to think on my feet and respond to an everchanging environment just to keep it. And while I was busting my behind for a company I happened to love doing a job I happened to love, you decided it's a good thing to do an endrun around equal protection and hand my job to a Mexican worker at 1/3 of the rate I'm being paid. Sir, Retail employees get paid more than that Full time and they're earning below the poverty level. The Job I hold for the moment requires a lot of hard work and problem solving skills, it requires good customer care skills, and it requires a long knowledge of Computers and software I didn't get from a degree but from practical experience.

I worked long and hard for years looking for the break that would get me in the door with my current employer. And I currently have a carreer with them. Or had, rather. I've worked for EDS for nearly 4 years. I will lose my job just short of that anniversary or just after it depending on how the breakdown happens.

I have a handicap that keeps me from driving a car. Not an official handicap, because it's so rare a problem that 1/2 of 1% of Americans have the condition so it doesn't rate being called what it is. I'm a blip on the screen. But, it means I have to live close to my employer and sometimes rely on others to help me get things done. I've lost everything and put my life back together 3 times in 15 years sir. And having just accomplished it again after 4 years with my employer, your policy has killed any protection I might have otherwise enjoyed from having my job destroyed by foriegn competition. And it puts me right back on the brink again. Sir, if I don't stand a chance of winning, it isn't competition - it's fish in a barrel. Where is my equal protection under the law?

The "competition" didn't get hired because of race or creed; but, because of national origin. They got hired because their cost of living is low enough that they can be paid sub-poverty wages to do my job. They are taking my job because they aren't constrained by the laws we have in this country to protect us and preserve our liberties. Lower cost of living, and no laws to constrain them. See, we used to have what was called ANTI-DUMPING laws on the books before Nafta to prevent the subversion of our economy by those who would attempt to compete on an unfair basis and put American firms out of business. We aren't a global economy, the globe is not the United States of America. They don't respect our rights, our Constitution, our laws or ourselves. The average citizen of the world might; but, we aren't dealing with them, we're dealing with the leaders who have their boots on the neck of the citizen of the world.

It seems today that I have to be a Mexican to get a fair shake in America. There are some 8 million of them here illegally as a tax on our system and working here taking jobs that Americans can do; but, which apparently, nobody wants to offer a fair wage for as long as they can get slave labor off the books. That isn't enough though. We need to employ More workers from Mexico, India, China.. As long as we're doing it, sire, why not be obvious and lets put Sally Struthers on the TV to advertise IT Jobs for the people under repressive regimes in africa who can live on 52 cents a day, "the price of a cup of coffee." I don't care what color their skin is, No citizen of the United states could live on that and shouldn't be asked to compete with it. It's too blatently obvious that it's unfair. And that seems to be why it's "good for us all".

Your policy sir. It's you on the tube telling me it's good for me to lose my job to a Mexican worker outside of our system and in a manner with which I cannot compete. There isn't a job comparable to it here that I can take to make up the difference cause those are being outsourced too. Outsourced. How about endran. Because sir, that is what is happening - it's an end run around our system - around our rights, our laws, our constitutional provisions and protections. Your policy has relieved me of my job without due process. It tied my hands before I had a chance to respond. And so many businesses are being forced to do the same thing, that I don't stand a chance any more than those earning 3 times what I do in the same field who have lost their jobs already and have had to take 11k a year Retail jobs just to eat while their houses go up for sale.

I don't have a degree. I don't get retraining. I just get to lose my job at the whim of your policies and will likely lose more than that in the end. You see, I bought a new home too - a year ago. This job made it possible for me to do that. And as with my Job, I had to get a huge break to be able to pull it off. I've been behind you and a cheerleader of yours since I first heard you speak. I understand that the tanking economy isn't your fault. I understand it isn't your fault we were attacked. I understand and agree with pretty much everything you've done to date, sir. This however is in my mind beyond sickening. It is a betrayal of myself, my coworkers and every other hard working IT worker, Auto worker, etc that has lost their job due to this. It is a betrayal by their government and their employer. And it's a distrust you've earned by subverting them and me. For me, it's not just my Government, it's my own party.

Now I've heard all the arguments for outsourcing and all the copout phrases about what we do about companies that have outsourced to the US. Tell me, sir, how many of them outsourced to do an endrun around their system of government, their constitution, their laws and their workers. How many of them outsourced to us to produce goods for their home market. That isn't an argument that flies with me in the face of doing an endrun around us. They've built plants in our land and are working within our market, within it's rules, within our laws, within the constraints of our constitution and are paying a competative wage. Our companies are doing the opposite. And any way you cut it, it is economic and constitutional tyranny. I'm not a single issue voter sir, until that single issue is my life and livelihood.. until members of my own party call me a robber and a thief for expecting to keep my job when I've worked my behind off to do so.

I did it right. I've busted my backside under an ever increasing workload, kept my promise to my employer and my client. Never missed a metric, never dropped the ball for either of them and have always exceeded expectation as a member of one of the best teams on this planet in my humble opinion. My job is gone not because we didn't produce and not because either couldn't afford it; but, because Mexicans work cheaper and don't have our protections, laws, rights or constitution. I have a strong work ethic and a loyalty to my company that even now makes me shudder to say a bad word about them. I have no illusions; but, I was raised that if you do your best it pays off. I know now that if you do your best, you get kicked in the teeth just as hard, and if you get ahead a little bit, the government will be there to kick you back down. I appreciate how hard your job is. Mine is pretty dang hard too. But how about you and everyone in government work for $600 a month from now on like the Mexican workers replacing us. How about you all work for the income you're forcing me into. If it's good for us, it should be good for you too. You, and all the ivory tower types in our party that hiss at me for being upset over losing my job and wanting to defend myself. How would that be, sir? I'd just as soon see little Tommy Daschle and Ted Kennedy go fly a kite as hear them spout one more offensive evil lie about you. But I'd just as soon, too, see you join them holding the string if you're gonna ruin me and tell me it's good for me. How about if we just outsource your jobs too - oh, wait, that would be unconstitutional too, wouldn't it.


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KEYWORDS: bush; endrun; immigration; newslavery; outsourcing
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To: clamper1797
were you sailing around in the gulf or were you incountry?

I missed you as I was in Germany from late 1970 to early 73, countering the Soviet threat.
681 posted on 04/14/2004 4:04:53 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
In country with HC-7
682 posted on 04/14/2004 4:05:21 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: XBob
"Opps that was supposed to say ... I agree with XBob about his service" . that better

683 posted on 04/14/2004 4:10:10 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: clamper1797
Never worked with you guys, the SeaDevils, but I heard of you and youall did some good work.

I worked with some Airforce choppers, Pedro and Jolly Greens, and some Army med-evac Dustoffs.
684 posted on 04/14/2004 4:17:18 PM PDT by XBob
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To: clamper1797
683 - ""Opps that was supposed to say ... I agree with XBob about his service" . that better"

Thanks for the correction.

I was involved with a lot of 'wierd' things back then, some of them still classified, but my work with the C-123 Ranch Hand, Agent Orange operation, is not classified, though some of it is indeed "off the record".
685 posted on 04/14/2004 4:22:16 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
Never worked with you guys, the SeaDevils

That's because HC-7 was known as "The Big Mothers" then.

686 posted on 04/14/2004 4:28:29 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: clamper1797
686 - Sorry - my Navy time I was on a Destroyer Escort and in an Air Anti-Sub squadron in US and Gitmo. My Navy work in the war was mostly limited to fast movers and Laos and my work with the Laotian Forestry Service.

Could it have been Operation Sea Dragon, or perhaps SeaWolfs I was thinking of. It seems to me Big Mothers were SAR choppers, like our Jolly Greens.

I wasn't in the much contact with the Navy rescues, only Air Force rescues of Navy fast mover pilots in Laos (HoChi Min trail bombing), and USAF rescues and an occasional Army one in the Delta.


It's been a long time now - over 30 years.
687 posted on 04/14/2004 5:21:09 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
687 - "It's been a long time now - over 30 years."

Wow - time is moving faster. Must update that to up to 36 years ago.
688 posted on 04/14/2004 5:24:57 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
...so, you prefer rapacious capitalism and anarchy and dictatorship.

You can stuff your psychotic strawman arguments up your lumpy Stalinist ass. I said no such thing.

689 posted on 04/14/2004 5:34:17 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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689 - "...so, you prefer rapacious capitalism and anarchy and dictatorship. "
"You can stuff your psychotic strawman arguments up your lumpy Stalinist ass. I said no such thing."

Ah, so you disagree with your cohorts, the free-traitors, who are arguing against any restrictions on corporations?

That's what they are arguing in support of.
690 posted on 04/14/2004 6:08:29 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
That's what they are arguing in support of.

That's bullshit too.

691 posted on 04/14/2004 6:10:38 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski
Then, for what are they arguing?

All their arguments I have seen protest any restrictions on corporations, period. No restrictions on making money, no matter how it is earned. Their sole duty is to make money.
692 posted on 04/14/2004 6:13:53 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
All their arguments I have seen protest any restrictions on corporations, period. No restrictions on making money, no matter how it is earned. Their sole duty is to make money.

You understand not a whit about capitalism. You have no clue between the duty that governs corporate behavior and the laws that restrict it. In short, rhetoric aside, you really are a Stalinist. Congratulations.

693 posted on 04/14/2004 6:17:57 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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693 - "You have no clue between the duty that governs corporate behavior and the laws that restrict it."

I have a big clue. You apparently have no clue of what arguments the free-traitors here have put forth, time and time again, against any restriction on corporations, or any morality, nothing is important except making money.

And if you don't believe me, you search this thread for any thing contrary, where the free-traitors say corporations have another single responsibility, other than making money.
694 posted on 04/14/2004 6:23:53 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
And if you don't believe me, you search this thread for any thing contrary...

It's your argument, you make it (if you can).

695 posted on 04/14/2004 6:26:40 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: XBob
Rabid capitalism in Stalin's Russia?! Hello Stalin was the SECOND communist dictator in Russia, and the commies over threw a fudal lord. There hadn't been even a hint of capitalism in Russia for at least 50 years by the time Stalin came around much less rabid capitalism. Rent a clue dude, I'll take up a collection just to show what a nice guy I am.
696 posted on 04/14/2004 6:30:27 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: XBob
Anarchy AND dictatorship?! Riiiiiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhht
697 posted on 04/14/2004 6:34:56 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: XBob
Then you need to learn to read. I NEVER said there should be no restrictions period. Never, not once, not even close to it. You and Havoc tried to force that position on us, but that's YOUR strawman, not our actual position. Guess you're just as big a lying POS as Havoc.
698 posted on 04/14/2004 6:36:59 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
Now, be nice. He's reading from the Manifesto, and his mouth must be very tired.
699 posted on 04/14/2004 6:37:33 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski
BING BING BING BING BING. Give the man a cigar, you get it. Thanks, sometimes I start to think I'm the one with the problem, then somebody like you shows up and proves I actually did write what I thought I wrote.
700 posted on 04/14/2004 6:39:02 PM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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