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An Open letter to President Bush (End run vs. Outsourcing)
Me | Me

Posted on 04/09/2004 12:22:04 PM PDT by Havoc

Dear Mr. President,

You don't know me, nor do I expect you to. But I'm one of those voices out here in the ether that actually did vote for you. I'm not one of those seminar caller types nor a Democrat pretending at being a republican to subvert the party faithful in dishonest fashion because their ideas aren't popular enough to win them anything. No, I'm a life-long republican who cherishes the memory of Ronald Reagan and who thought highly of you right up to the time you sunk a knife in my back economically.

Sir I understand it's a hard job being president. I also understand that in IT my job causes me to have to think on my feet and respond to an everchanging environment just to keep it. And while I was busting my behind for a company I happened to love doing a job I happened to love, you decided it's a good thing to do an endrun around equal protection and hand my job to a Mexican worker at 1/3 of the rate I'm being paid. Sir, Retail employees get paid more than that Full time and they're earning below the poverty level. The Job I hold for the moment requires a lot of hard work and problem solving skills, it requires good customer care skills, and it requires a long knowledge of Computers and software I didn't get from a degree but from practical experience.

I worked long and hard for years looking for the break that would get me in the door with my current employer. And I currently have a carreer with them. Or had, rather. I've worked for EDS for nearly 4 years. I will lose my job just short of that anniversary or just after it depending on how the breakdown happens.

I have a handicap that keeps me from driving a car. Not an official handicap, because it's so rare a problem that 1/2 of 1% of Americans have the condition so it doesn't rate being called what it is. I'm a blip on the screen. But, it means I have to live close to my employer and sometimes rely on others to help me get things done. I've lost everything and put my life back together 3 times in 15 years sir. And having just accomplished it again after 4 years with my employer, your policy has killed any protection I might have otherwise enjoyed from having my job destroyed by foriegn competition. And it puts me right back on the brink again. Sir, if I don't stand a chance of winning, it isn't competition - it's fish in a barrel. Where is my equal protection under the law?

The "competition" didn't get hired because of race or creed; but, because of national origin. They got hired because their cost of living is low enough that they can be paid sub-poverty wages to do my job. They are taking my job because they aren't constrained by the laws we have in this country to protect us and preserve our liberties. Lower cost of living, and no laws to constrain them. See, we used to have what was called ANTI-DUMPING laws on the books before Nafta to prevent the subversion of our economy by those who would attempt to compete on an unfair basis and put American firms out of business. We aren't a global economy, the globe is not the United States of America. They don't respect our rights, our Constitution, our laws or ourselves. The average citizen of the world might; but, we aren't dealing with them, we're dealing with the leaders who have their boots on the neck of the citizen of the world.

It seems today that I have to be a Mexican to get a fair shake in America. There are some 8 million of them here illegally as a tax on our system and working here taking jobs that Americans can do; but, which apparently, nobody wants to offer a fair wage for as long as they can get slave labor off the books. That isn't enough though. We need to employ More workers from Mexico, India, China.. As long as we're doing it, sire, why not be obvious and lets put Sally Struthers on the TV to advertise IT Jobs for the people under repressive regimes in africa who can live on 52 cents a day, "the price of a cup of coffee." I don't care what color their skin is, No citizen of the United states could live on that and shouldn't be asked to compete with it. It's too blatently obvious that it's unfair. And that seems to be why it's "good for us all".

Your policy sir. It's you on the tube telling me it's good for me to lose my job to a Mexican worker outside of our system and in a manner with which I cannot compete. There isn't a job comparable to it here that I can take to make up the difference cause those are being outsourced too. Outsourced. How about endran. Because sir, that is what is happening - it's an end run around our system - around our rights, our laws, our constitutional provisions and protections. Your policy has relieved me of my job without due process. It tied my hands before I had a chance to respond. And so many businesses are being forced to do the same thing, that I don't stand a chance any more than those earning 3 times what I do in the same field who have lost their jobs already and have had to take 11k a year Retail jobs just to eat while their houses go up for sale.

I don't have a degree. I don't get retraining. I just get to lose my job at the whim of your policies and will likely lose more than that in the end. You see, I bought a new home too - a year ago. This job made it possible for me to do that. And as with my Job, I had to get a huge break to be able to pull it off. I've been behind you and a cheerleader of yours since I first heard you speak. I understand that the tanking economy isn't your fault. I understand it isn't your fault we were attacked. I understand and agree with pretty much everything you've done to date, sir. This however is in my mind beyond sickening. It is a betrayal of myself, my coworkers and every other hard working IT worker, Auto worker, etc that has lost their job due to this. It is a betrayal by their government and their employer. And it's a distrust you've earned by subverting them and me. For me, it's not just my Government, it's my own party.

Now I've heard all the arguments for outsourcing and all the copout phrases about what we do about companies that have outsourced to the US. Tell me, sir, how many of them outsourced to do an endrun around their system of government, their constitution, their laws and their workers. How many of them outsourced to us to produce goods for their home market. That isn't an argument that flies with me in the face of doing an endrun around us. They've built plants in our land and are working within our market, within it's rules, within our laws, within the constraints of our constitution and are paying a competative wage. Our companies are doing the opposite. And any way you cut it, it is economic and constitutional tyranny. I'm not a single issue voter sir, until that single issue is my life and livelihood.. until members of my own party call me a robber and a thief for expecting to keep my job when I've worked my behind off to do so.

I did it right. I've busted my backside under an ever increasing workload, kept my promise to my employer and my client. Never missed a metric, never dropped the ball for either of them and have always exceeded expectation as a member of one of the best teams on this planet in my humble opinion. My job is gone not because we didn't produce and not because either couldn't afford it; but, because Mexicans work cheaper and don't have our protections, laws, rights or constitution. I have a strong work ethic and a loyalty to my company that even now makes me shudder to say a bad word about them. I have no illusions; but, I was raised that if you do your best it pays off. I know now that if you do your best, you get kicked in the teeth just as hard, and if you get ahead a little bit, the government will be there to kick you back down. I appreciate how hard your job is. Mine is pretty dang hard too. But how about you and everyone in government work for $600 a month from now on like the Mexican workers replacing us. How about you all work for the income you're forcing me into. If it's good for us, it should be good for you too. You, and all the ivory tower types in our party that hiss at me for being upset over losing my job and wanting to defend myself. How would that be, sir? I'd just as soon see little Tommy Daschle and Ted Kennedy go fly a kite as hear them spout one more offensive evil lie about you. But I'd just as soon, too, see you join them holding the string if you're gonna ruin me and tell me it's good for me. How about if we just outsource your jobs too - oh, wait, that would be unconstitutional too, wouldn't it.


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KEYWORDS: bush; endrun; immigration; newslavery; outsourcing
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To: clamper1797
Apparently Poo Poo was never in the/a war, according to his last post, as he is too young.

We may have been there during the same time frames (mine 68,69,70 and 73,74).
661 posted on 04/14/2004 10:23:47 AM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
He's known by the friends he keeps.

Coming from a buddy of Havoc's this is pretty funny.

Does Agent Orange cause Alzheimers disease?

662 posted on 04/14/2004 10:27:48 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Poohbah
Rabid, sadistic fools of the world, united to resist socialism. We should make t-shirts!!
663 posted on 04/14/2004 10:29:31 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Rabid, sadistic fools of the world, united to resist socialism. We should make t-shirts!!

Yup. The t-shirts wouldn't be made here, though, so we'll get brickbats from XBob and Havoc.

664 posted on 04/14/2004 10:32:24 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: clamper1797
662 - "Coming from a buddy of Havoc's this is pretty funny. Does Agent Orange cause Alzheimers disease?"

See what I mean? ToddsNoPatriot has been picking on a poor guy with trouble breathing because of his emphasima, who went to work for one of the largest computer services firms in the world (EDS) on a General Motors Contract (Delphi Auto Parts), and they outsourced his job (one of the few he is able to do because of his declining lung capacity) to Mexico.

Havoc is justifiably pissed, and these sadistic fools are making fun of his predicament .


665 posted on 04/14/2004 10:36:57 AM PDT by XBob
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To: clamper1797
Wow - Rush Limbaugh is on a roll today - he is really saying into the demonRATS based on the FBI revealing xlinton's hog tying the intelligence community.
666 posted on 04/14/2004 10:42:58 AM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
picking on a poor guy with trouble breathing

We don't believe anything poor Havoc claims.He should join the Democrats because he whines too much to be a Republican.

I'm sorry, he already is a Democrat and should stop claiming to be a Republican.

667 posted on 04/14/2004 10:44:27 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Poohbah
I was also in VT-23 NAS Kingville Texas .. F9 Cougar then A-4 Skyhawk and lastly the Buckeye
668 posted on 04/14/2004 11:24:42 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: XBob
Evil comments I think
669 posted on 04/14/2004 2:19:38 PM PDT by cyborg (Frakenfreude Radio... look out belowwwwwwwwwww!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; discostu; Texasforever
It's no surprise that Havoc and XBob hang out together; one fraud deserves another, after all.

We have a guy falsely claiming he has a terminal illness and a handicap ("lazy eye," no less :o) that spell his doom in the workforce...

...and we have a guy claiming that he has diabetes courtesy of "Agent Orange" (which wasn't the real name) in a manner that's straight out of Jug Burkett's "Stolen Valor."

Both play-act at being professional victims.
670 posted on 04/14/2004 2:22:35 PM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: cyborg
669 - "Evil comments I think"

Good thinking. From evil hearts and evil minds.
671 posted on 04/14/2004 2:23:41 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
You're exhonerating the mass murders of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, et al., because "the economy made them do it" . . . that makes you one sick puppy.
672 posted on 04/14/2004 2:31:47 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski
672 - "You're exhonerating the mass murders of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, et al., because "the economy made them do it" . . . that makes you one sick puppy."

Boy do you have it all screwed up. unbridaled serfdom and rabid capitalism (such as that of the rabid capitalists I am arguing against) created the bad economies, which led to the rise of state terrorists to curb it, and these state terrorist dictators killed millions. That is what free-traitors thinking leads to.

A bridaled capitalism leads to enrichment of all and prosperity and peace. And this is what my opponents here and free-traitors are advocating against.

Their god is money through rabid capitalism and anarchy, which leads to dictatorship and murder (just as Marx predicted).
673 posted on 04/14/2004 3:06:21 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob; Poohbah; Toddsterpatriot; discostu; Texasforever
"...just as Marx predicted."

And I'm screwed up? LOL

674 posted on 04/14/2004 3:18:46 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski; Toddsterpatriot; Texasforever; discostu
Anyone who believes Marxist theories of economics and sociology is, at heart, a Marxist.

He sure as hell isn't a conservative.

Add together his Marxist approach to economics/sociology and his phony posturing as a victim of "Agent Orange" (which, in the Marxist catechism, was but one part of our war crimes in Vietnam), and one is amazed that this guy has survived on FR as long as he has...
675 posted on 04/14/2004 3:31:54 PM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: clamper1797
BTW though I agree with Xbob on some stuff ... I think you're right about his service ... or lack there of
676 posted on 04/14/2004 3:53:19 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: Petronski
so, you prefer rapacious capitalism and anarchy and dictatorship.

You are joining illustrious company: Petronski; Poobah; Toddsterpatriot; Texasforever; discostu

Get your Free-Traitor TShirts (made overseas of course)
677 posted on 04/14/2004 3:54:51 PM PDT by XBob
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To: clamper1797
676 - "BTW though I agree with Xbob on some stuff ... I think you're right about his service ... or lack there of"


Take your pick, clamper - USN and USAF, 1962-1986, in the war 68, 69, 70, and 73-74, working the war numerous times in numerous places in the war zone.

When were you in country?
678 posted on 04/14/2004 4:00:08 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
72-73
679 posted on 04/14/2004 4:01:19 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: clamper1797
I'm in the FR's finest photo album
680 posted on 04/14/2004 4:01:49 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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