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An Open letter to President Bush (End run vs. Outsourcing)
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Posted on 04/09/2004 12:22:04 PM PDT by Havoc

Dear Mr. President,

You don't know me, nor do I expect you to. But I'm one of those voices out here in the ether that actually did vote for you. I'm not one of those seminar caller types nor a Democrat pretending at being a republican to subvert the party faithful in dishonest fashion because their ideas aren't popular enough to win them anything. No, I'm a life-long republican who cherishes the memory of Ronald Reagan and who thought highly of you right up to the time you sunk a knife in my back economically.

Sir I understand it's a hard job being president. I also understand that in IT my job causes me to have to think on my feet and respond to an everchanging environment just to keep it. And while I was busting my behind for a company I happened to love doing a job I happened to love, you decided it's a good thing to do an endrun around equal protection and hand my job to a Mexican worker at 1/3 of the rate I'm being paid. Sir, Retail employees get paid more than that Full time and they're earning below the poverty level. The Job I hold for the moment requires a lot of hard work and problem solving skills, it requires good customer care skills, and it requires a long knowledge of Computers and software I didn't get from a degree but from practical experience.

I worked long and hard for years looking for the break that would get me in the door with my current employer. And I currently have a carreer with them. Or had, rather. I've worked for EDS for nearly 4 years. I will lose my job just short of that anniversary or just after it depending on how the breakdown happens.

I have a handicap that keeps me from driving a car. Not an official handicap, because it's so rare a problem that 1/2 of 1% of Americans have the condition so it doesn't rate being called what it is. I'm a blip on the screen. But, it means I have to live close to my employer and sometimes rely on others to help me get things done. I've lost everything and put my life back together 3 times in 15 years sir. And having just accomplished it again after 4 years with my employer, your policy has killed any protection I might have otherwise enjoyed from having my job destroyed by foriegn competition. And it puts me right back on the brink again. Sir, if I don't stand a chance of winning, it isn't competition - it's fish in a barrel. Where is my equal protection under the law?

The "competition" didn't get hired because of race or creed; but, because of national origin. They got hired because their cost of living is low enough that they can be paid sub-poverty wages to do my job. They are taking my job because they aren't constrained by the laws we have in this country to protect us and preserve our liberties. Lower cost of living, and no laws to constrain them. See, we used to have what was called ANTI-DUMPING laws on the books before Nafta to prevent the subversion of our economy by those who would attempt to compete on an unfair basis and put American firms out of business. We aren't a global economy, the globe is not the United States of America. They don't respect our rights, our Constitution, our laws or ourselves. The average citizen of the world might; but, we aren't dealing with them, we're dealing with the leaders who have their boots on the neck of the citizen of the world.

It seems today that I have to be a Mexican to get a fair shake in America. There are some 8 million of them here illegally as a tax on our system and working here taking jobs that Americans can do; but, which apparently, nobody wants to offer a fair wage for as long as they can get slave labor off the books. That isn't enough though. We need to employ More workers from Mexico, India, China.. As long as we're doing it, sire, why not be obvious and lets put Sally Struthers on the TV to advertise IT Jobs for the people under repressive regimes in africa who can live on 52 cents a day, "the price of a cup of coffee." I don't care what color their skin is, No citizen of the United states could live on that and shouldn't be asked to compete with it. It's too blatently obvious that it's unfair. And that seems to be why it's "good for us all".

Your policy sir. It's you on the tube telling me it's good for me to lose my job to a Mexican worker outside of our system and in a manner with which I cannot compete. There isn't a job comparable to it here that I can take to make up the difference cause those are being outsourced too. Outsourced. How about endran. Because sir, that is what is happening - it's an end run around our system - around our rights, our laws, our constitutional provisions and protections. Your policy has relieved me of my job without due process. It tied my hands before I had a chance to respond. And so many businesses are being forced to do the same thing, that I don't stand a chance any more than those earning 3 times what I do in the same field who have lost their jobs already and have had to take 11k a year Retail jobs just to eat while their houses go up for sale.

I don't have a degree. I don't get retraining. I just get to lose my job at the whim of your policies and will likely lose more than that in the end. You see, I bought a new home too - a year ago. This job made it possible for me to do that. And as with my Job, I had to get a huge break to be able to pull it off. I've been behind you and a cheerleader of yours since I first heard you speak. I understand that the tanking economy isn't your fault. I understand it isn't your fault we were attacked. I understand and agree with pretty much everything you've done to date, sir. This however is in my mind beyond sickening. It is a betrayal of myself, my coworkers and every other hard working IT worker, Auto worker, etc that has lost their job due to this. It is a betrayal by their government and their employer. And it's a distrust you've earned by subverting them and me. For me, it's not just my Government, it's my own party.

Now I've heard all the arguments for outsourcing and all the copout phrases about what we do about companies that have outsourced to the US. Tell me, sir, how many of them outsourced to do an endrun around their system of government, their constitution, their laws and their workers. How many of them outsourced to us to produce goods for their home market. That isn't an argument that flies with me in the face of doing an endrun around us. They've built plants in our land and are working within our market, within it's rules, within our laws, within the constraints of our constitution and are paying a competative wage. Our companies are doing the opposite. And any way you cut it, it is economic and constitutional tyranny. I'm not a single issue voter sir, until that single issue is my life and livelihood.. until members of my own party call me a robber and a thief for expecting to keep my job when I've worked my behind off to do so.

I did it right. I've busted my backside under an ever increasing workload, kept my promise to my employer and my client. Never missed a metric, never dropped the ball for either of them and have always exceeded expectation as a member of one of the best teams on this planet in my humble opinion. My job is gone not because we didn't produce and not because either couldn't afford it; but, because Mexicans work cheaper and don't have our protections, laws, rights or constitution. I have a strong work ethic and a loyalty to my company that even now makes me shudder to say a bad word about them. I have no illusions; but, I was raised that if you do your best it pays off. I know now that if you do your best, you get kicked in the teeth just as hard, and if you get ahead a little bit, the government will be there to kick you back down. I appreciate how hard your job is. Mine is pretty dang hard too. But how about you and everyone in government work for $600 a month from now on like the Mexican workers replacing us. How about you all work for the income you're forcing me into. If it's good for us, it should be good for you too. You, and all the ivory tower types in our party that hiss at me for being upset over losing my job and wanting to defend myself. How would that be, sir? I'd just as soon see little Tommy Daschle and Ted Kennedy go fly a kite as hear them spout one more offensive evil lie about you. But I'd just as soon, too, see you join them holding the string if you're gonna ruin me and tell me it's good for me. How about if we just outsource your jobs too - oh, wait, that would be unconstitutional too, wouldn't it.


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KEYWORDS: bush; endrun; immigration; newslavery; outsourcing
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To: XBob; Toddsterpatriot; Texasforever; discostu
You know, I got diabetes in my 20's (most people get it in the 50's-60's), before he was born, from Agent Orange, fighting for my country so that fools like him would have a place to be born and grow up in, safely (fool that I was - wasting my time and life to support idots trying to destroy everything I was fighting for).

OK, some questions:

What unit were you in? What MOS? Where did you serve? What was your DEROS?

641 posted on 04/14/2004 4:53:07 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: sarcasm
Well considering the recession ended in November of 2001 that would mean by May 2003 creating 6.8 million jobs. So, I'd say no, I don't want to take that bet.
642 posted on 04/14/2004 6:28:53 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Quit yer whining)
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To: Poohbah
641 - "OK, some questions:

What unit were you in? What MOS? Where did you serve? What was your DEROS?"

Why? Are you accusing me of being a liar?

Go soak your head.

Whiich time? Which unit? Which place?

Take your pick - I was in Active and Reserve from 1962-1986. And spent 5 years in South East Asia fighting that war.

Ever hear of Operation Ranch Hand?

643 posted on 04/14/2004 9:42:33 AM PDT by XBob
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To: Poohbah
641 - "OK, some questions:

What unit were you in? What MOS? Where did you serve? What was your DEROS?"

Why? Are you accusing me of being a liar?

Go soak your head.

Whiich time? Which unit? Which place?

Take your pick - I was in Active and Reserve from 1962-1986. And spent 5 years in South East Asia fighting that war.

Ever hear of Ranch Hand?

644 posted on 04/14/2004 9:43:24 AM PDT by XBob
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To: Poohbah
641 - Note - this is my last post to you, as I am adding you to my list of rabid, sadistic fools, like you addressed this post to.
645 posted on 04/14/2004 9:48:40 AM PDT by XBob
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To: Poohbah
641 - Note - this is my last post to you, as I am adding you to my list of rabid, sadistic fools, like you addressed this post to.
646 posted on 04/14/2004 9:49:29 AM PDT by XBob
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To: Poohbah; XBob
What unit were you in? What MOS? Where did you serve? What was your DEROS?

Just so ya know ...

VA-93 Blue Blazers
HC-7 Big Mothers
CVA-41 USS Midway 1972-1973 Westpac
Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club

Rate AME-3 (Navy has rates not MOS)

647 posted on 04/14/2004 9:55:22 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: XBob; Toddsterpatriot; discostu; Texasforever
Why? Are you accusing me of being a liar?

No, I was asking you about your service.

But you were awful damn quick to jump to that conclusion.

Claims of injury from "Agent Orange" (which wasn't its name) stem from the infamous "Winter Soldier" fraud that was supported (and, in part, led) by John Kerry. B.G. Burkett's book "Stolen Valor" does a fine job of demonstrating the falsity of said claims.

Whiich time? Which unit? Which place?

All of them.

Take your pick - I was in Active and Reserve from 1962-1986. And spent 5 years in South East Asia fighting that war.

Fine. Which units were you in? Which bases? Which dates?

Ever hear of Operation Ranch Hand?

Yes, I have. Were you involved in Operation Ranch Hand? In what role? Did you directly handle any herbicides?

648 posted on 04/14/2004 9:56:31 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: clamper1797
Navy uses rates and NECs--the rate corresponds to an occupational field, while the NEC corresponds to an MOS.
649 posted on 04/14/2004 9:58:13 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: Poohbah
see #646
650 posted on 04/14/2004 10:00:40 AM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
Note to self - cnx Poohbah
651 posted on 04/14/2004 10:02:56 AM PDT by XBob
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641 - Note - this is my last post to you, as I am adding you to my list of rabid, sadistic fools, like you addressed this post to.

Wow. All I do is ask a few basic questions about your claim of injury from "Agent Orange," and you run for the hills.

Gosh. I wonder why.

652 posted on 04/14/2004 10:03:05 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: XBob
Note to self - cnx Poohbah - he's a waste of time, and not worth any effort.
653 posted on 04/14/2004 10:03:48 AM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob; Toddsterpatriot; discostu; Texasforever
Very well. You're unwilling to substantiate your claim of sainted victimhood--one made using a Stolen Valor favorite, to boot.
654 posted on 04/14/2004 10:05:16 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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NEC is new to me ... I only knew of rate though I do know what an MOS is having served with and having many friends who are /were Marines

None the less ... I was an AME-3 Worked ejection seats LOX crew (fun stuff) and wore a green shirt on the flight deck.
655 posted on 04/14/2004 10:07:49 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: XBob
Note to self - cnx Poohbah - he's a waste of time, and not worth any effort, if he want's info he can go check the agent orange threads several years back, so add lazy to the list of his attributes.
656 posted on 04/14/2004 10:08:09 AM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
Note to self - cnx Poohbah - he's a waste of time, and not worth any effort, if he want's info he can go check the agent orange threads several years back, so add lazy to the list of his attributes.

He's known by the friends he keeps.
657 posted on 04/14/2004 10:08:40 AM PDT by XBob
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To: clamper1797
Don't waste your time responding to Poo Poo, he's not worth the effort.
658 posted on 04/14/2004 10:11:00 AM PDT by XBob
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To: clamper1797
NEC is new to me ... I only knew of rate though I do know what an MOS is having served with and having many friends who are /were Marines

May have been after your time. NEC = Navy Enlisted Classification, and it's a four-digit number that narrows down exactly what you do. Guess they decided that sending a guy from an F-14 squadron to work on an F-18 was NOT A Good Thing :o)

None the less ... I was an AME-3 Worked ejection seats LOX crew (fun stuff) and wore a green shirt on the flight deck.

Remember the movie "The Man From LOX?"

BTW, I recently ran into a guy claiming that he'd been in "the 'Nam" who was only a few years older than me, so he was WAY too late.

I told him "The only 'Nam you were ever in was NAMTRAGRUDET." </obscure NAVAIR humor>

659 posted on 04/14/2004 10:12:42 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: clamper1797
655 - "I was an AME-3 Worked ejection seats LOX crew (fun stuff) and wore a green shirt on the flight deck."

Thanks. Good job. Your good work and mine saved numbers of lives of those pilots and many others.
660 posted on 04/14/2004 10:14:47 AM PDT by XBob
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