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What Do About Female Promiscuity (Why Daughters Need Fathers As Much As Sons)
Jerusalem Post ^ | 3/31/04 | Shmuley Boteach

Posted on 04/01/2004 2:24:45 AM PST by goldstategop

American culture grows more crass by the day. One of the most successful American TV shows is The Apprentice starring Donald Trump, a man loaded with money but bankrupt of class. The highlight of the show is when Trump humiliates potential employees by barking at them, "You're fired!"

One can only grieve over a culture that promotes a coarse womanizer who has dumped a wife or two in favor of young models as its symbol of professional success.

Indeed, watching people be humiliated is big business on American TV. Shows such as American Idol feature judges like Simon Cowell – known as Mr. Nasty – who shoot the middle finger at contestants they don't like. Public degradation has become as American as apple pie with programs like Fear Factor garnering huge ratings by having participants eat bugs and swim with dead mice. But perhaps the most disturbing example of the culture of crassness is the growing trend of famous young women going through the rite of passage known as the nearly naked photo spread.

Such recent graduates of the you-may-think-I-have-a-brain-but-let's-instead-focus-on-my-bust school of celebrity include Scarlet Johansson, who acted superbly in Lost in Translation, which made her famous enough to qualify for a cleavage-bearing photo op. Janet Jackson, of course, joined the club when she decided to have us all forget about her dancing and focus instead on her nipples, while Britney Spears is, of course, the club's founding member.

The reduction of talented and intelligent women to two breasts and a vagina has reached its apogee with the Girls Gone Wild videos, in which tens of thousands of college girls, often on spring break, flash for the camera, their sole remuneration being a feeling of deep satisfaction that they have played their God-given role as entertainment for lecherous men.

Why have millions of young American women abandoned the feminist dream of being taken seriously by men and instead decided to gain male attention with degrading spectacles of their bodies? I am convinced that the principal cause is an increasingly weak link between fathers and daughters.

IN OUR society, we have it all backward. Too much is made of the father-son relationship at the expense of the father-daughter one. The image of a boy being taught by his dad to catch a baseball or throw a football is commonplace, while the only mainstream image of a father interacting with his teenage daughter is telling her not to come home too late when she goes out with her boyfriend. Pop tarts like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, who use partial nudity to advance their careers, are often close to their mothers, who may even serve as their managers, while their dads are nowhere to be seen.

Where you do read about a father's central involvement in his daughter's career, it usually leads to respectable women like Steffi Graff and the Williams sisters, who have resisted the offers for provocative photo spreads even after they became famous as tennis stars. This is not because mothers don't love their daughters but because men are much more successful at protecting their daughters from other men. And when a daughter receives strong masculine validation from a loving and caring father, she is usually not desperate for sexual attention from manipulative and hormonal men.

Recently the New York Times ran a front-page story about a 15-year-old girl who refused to have sex with her 16-year-old boyfriend. He promptly cheated on her. When the girlfriend found out, she told her boyfriend that they should cut class and go and have sex. She did so, she said, "in order to keep him." When I read this story, I wondered Where is this girl's father? Had her father been a strong male presence in her life, she would not have been so desperate for the affection of a scoundrel.

EVEN WHEN I go to a Yankees game, I take my five daughters along with my older son. True, they often don't know the names of the players or even the score, but they know their father loves them and hates being separated from them. There is a special connection that daughters have with their fathers that even a mother cannot replicate, which grants young women a startling immunity from compromising themselves with jerks.

Indeed, when a daughter is close to her father and respects him as a man and a dad, she begins to judge other men by that same high standard. When she dates men, she will not judge them by their smooth talk but by the depth of their commitment because her own father was not a talker but a doer. She will not jump into bed with a man just to please him. She has high self-esteem, and she expects the men in her life to make an effort to please her rather than the reverse. Her idea of a relationship is not going down to the guy's level but raising him up to hers.

THIS IS why it's so important for a father to remain the most important man in his daughter's life until she is at least 20. I always lament witnessing the deterioration of the homes of my friends whose teenage daughters are always out, either with girlfriends or boyfriends. My daughters will not date until they are of marriageable age – in our communities from 19. Up until that time, my own love for them will sustain their need for male attention. They will not be forced at too early an age to worry whether they're pretty enough, smart enough, sexy enough, or attractive enough. To their father, they are just perfect. And they will internalize that message in their most vulnerable years so they can grow into confident and robust women who attract men out of strength rather than weakness.

As for the criticisms that too close a relationship with your daughter will impede her ability to later form close connections with romantic partners, exactly the opposite is true. A young woman with an involved and loving father gains the confidence in herself to sever the childhood ties with her father and begin a loving relationship with a man precisely because she has learned to trust men. She has no fear of being vulnerable – a prerequisite for romantic love – because her father has shown her an example of a man who can be trusted and relied upon.

But if she feels betrayed by her own father, she will often run to another man more to escape pain than to find love, which is what usually makes her a prime candidate for that revealing photo spread.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: britneyspears; culture; daughters; fatherhood; fathers; feminism; parishilton; promiscuity; realityshows; sex; shmuleyboteach; sons; tramps
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To: goldstategop

Young ladies, as a former teenage boy, let me say this once and for all:

MEN ARE PIGS! ALL MEN ARE PIGS!

"Oh look daddy, he's a nice guy, he's carrying a bible.. isn't he sweet?"

I'd have carried a Bible too if I thought it would have worked!

Trust me young ladies... The adult loving and caring men in your life know more about men and boys than you will probably EVER know in your life about them.

Fathers may not be perfect, but we know we are responsible for your safety and happiness... Your LONG TERM HAPPINESS! not your happiness at every moment of every day. Some of the most important lessons we as parents must do is tell you NO! Yes, we know it hurts you at the time, and believe me it hurts us to see you in pain... more than you will not realize until you have to do the same for your children. It is the right thing to do, and even though it hurts we know it is what we must do.


81 posted on 08/31/2004 10:15:25 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: goldstategop

If you want to get a woman to stop having sex, just marry her. (rimshot)


82 posted on 08/31/2004 10:16:25 AM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: Theo
Your little Olivia is beautiful (of course not as beautiful as my Autumn but I'll give her a close runner-up)

Likewise your bride is very good looking. I can't speak about you as I was taught if you can't say something nice don't say anything (:

(note that you'll never see my picture posted anywhere. Break too many cameras. Fortunately God was good to us and Autumn looks like her mommy)

83 posted on 08/31/2004 10:55:51 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Theo

oh BTW. Isn't it amazing how easy it is to sleep when the little one naps on your chest? I always loved that when Autumn was a baby.


84 posted on 08/31/2004 10:56:54 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

My wife likes telling people that she doesn't need to worry about me chasing after "the younger woman" -- she's 12 years younger than I. :-)

Having Olivia (my baby) sleep on my chest is very peaceful....


85 posted on 08/31/2004 11:11:39 AM PDT by Theo
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To: cyborg; Lancey Howard; goldstategop
Good point.

I don't think that will ever be successful as a strategy, though.

I could tell you some stories about some of my friends-discussing this very subject-that would make you shake your head in wonder.

86 posted on 08/31/2004 12:32:55 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (This tag-line paid for by "Friends of Paul Rodriguez.")
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To: Theo

All I want is some balance, and not only girls the ones that have to stay pure,etc. I never read stories about guys. It's always girls.


87 posted on 08/31/2004 12:41:35 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: goldstategop
The reduction of talented and intelligent women to two breasts and a vagina has reached its apogee with the Girls Gone Wild videos, in which tens of thousands of college girls, often on spring break, flash for the camera, their sole remuneration being a feeling of deep satisfaction that they have played their God-given role as entertainment for lecherous men.

That's not true. They get a t-shirt.

88 posted on 08/31/2004 12:43:41 PM PDT by Modernman (Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.)
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To: ArGee

I would not allow my children to watch tv.


89 posted on 08/31/2004 12:44:10 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Texas2step

My dad always took us to Yankee Stadium. Little did he know that it would be something we both love and still today remember the good times with him at those games.


90 posted on 08/31/2004 12:47:16 PM PDT by angcat
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

I'll agree that it probably won't be as successful, but what's with the fundamentalist condemnation of girls only? As if they are being promiscuous with themselves! LOL


91 posted on 08/31/2004 12:50:51 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Centurion2000
The solution for daughters and problems with dating. Hand this to every boy/man she dates

When I was younger, I kind of enjoyed dealing with "hardass" fathers who thought they could intimidate me.

The challenge made the payoff even better.

I'm sure Fate will only give me daughters as a punishment for my earlier indiscretions.

92 posted on 08/31/2004 12:53:32 PM PDT by Modernman (Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.)
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To: cyborg

I don't think anyone's condemning girls, but not boys, for being promiscuous. The point as I see it, is that since girls are not as hormone-driven as boys, and since girls disproportionately bear the risks, then they ought to have the common sense to see that they're being used.


93 posted on 08/31/2004 12:55:13 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("It's only important for me to know!" ~ Gen. Patton)
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To: Tax-chick; cyborg
additionally, girls advertise more than guys do.

Look at the typicaluniform' worn today by the kids. Guys are in oversized pants and tshirts. Girls are in midrif baring shirts and super low jeans. The boys cover as much as they can and the girls bare as much as they can get away with.

Add to that the traditional, historic role of the sexes. The guy is the hunter and the girl is the huntee. Now we have girls doing the hunting instead of saying no to the guys. Feminazis have turned our girl children into whores. (fashion designers have turned them into plumbers)

94 posted on 08/31/2004 1:03:32 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

Girls advertize?? LOL!!!!!! Wow I thought that whole led astray by a provactive woman thing went out with the invention of the moveable type.


95 posted on 08/31/2004 1:04:35 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tax-chick

Girls do disproportionately bear risks since they can get pregnant. However, can you recall BOYS ever being held to the same standards of purity as girls? I can't. Not ever.


96 posted on 08/31/2004 1:05:53 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Theo
Here's the obligatory photo of my wife and me in Colonial Williamsburg this past weekend, with our new baby girl (you can click on the photo to see more photos of my daughter, who I will be protecting fiercely):

Nice family but not for nothing, putting your daughter's name, birthday, location and picture anywhere on the net is not the best way to fiercely protect her.

97 posted on 08/31/2004 1:09:24 PM PDT by wtc911 (I have half a Snickers...it was given to me by a CIA guy as we went into Cambodia)
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To: cyborg

I myself was never promiscuous....but I seem to remember dating a bunch of girls who were....


98 posted on 08/31/2004 1:10:29 PM PDT by wtc911 (I have half a Snickers...it was given to me by a CIA guy as we went into Cambodia)
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To: cyborg

It's just the opposite in the circles I hang out in. While women are encouraged to dress modestly and be sensitive to guys' temptations, men are strongly encouraged to "be men" and take the initiative to be pure in thought and behavior.

Real men initiate purity.

(When I talk of "the circles I hang out in," I'm talking about ages from children to teens to adults.)


99 posted on 08/31/2004 1:11:28 PM PDT by Theo
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To: exile

The doctor told my wife to cut back on sex so now we're down to once a week. Hey, I'm lucky, some guys she cut out all together....R. Dangerfield.


100 posted on 08/31/2004 1:12:32 PM PDT by wtc911 (I have half a Snickers...it was given to me by a CIA guy as we went into Cambodia)
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