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What Do About Female Promiscuity (Why Daughters Need Fathers As Much As Sons)
Jerusalem Post ^ | 3/31/04 | Shmuley Boteach

Posted on 04/01/2004 2:24:45 AM PST by goldstategop

American culture grows more crass by the day. One of the most successful American TV shows is The Apprentice starring Donald Trump, a man loaded with money but bankrupt of class. The highlight of the show is when Trump humiliates potential employees by barking at them, "You're fired!"

One can only grieve over a culture that promotes a coarse womanizer who has dumped a wife or two in favor of young models as its symbol of professional success.

Indeed, watching people be humiliated is big business on American TV. Shows such as American Idol feature judges like Simon Cowell – known as Mr. Nasty – who shoot the middle finger at contestants they don't like. Public degradation has become as American as apple pie with programs like Fear Factor garnering huge ratings by having participants eat bugs and swim with dead mice. But perhaps the most disturbing example of the culture of crassness is the growing trend of famous young women going through the rite of passage known as the nearly naked photo spread.

Such recent graduates of the you-may-think-I-have-a-brain-but-let's-instead-focus-on-my-bust school of celebrity include Scarlet Johansson, who acted superbly in Lost in Translation, which made her famous enough to qualify for a cleavage-bearing photo op. Janet Jackson, of course, joined the club when she decided to have us all forget about her dancing and focus instead on her nipples, while Britney Spears is, of course, the club's founding member.

The reduction of talented and intelligent women to two breasts and a vagina has reached its apogee with the Girls Gone Wild videos, in which tens of thousands of college girls, often on spring break, flash for the camera, their sole remuneration being a feeling of deep satisfaction that they have played their God-given role as entertainment for lecherous men.

Why have millions of young American women abandoned the feminist dream of being taken seriously by men and instead decided to gain male attention with degrading spectacles of their bodies? I am convinced that the principal cause is an increasingly weak link between fathers and daughters.

IN OUR society, we have it all backward. Too much is made of the father-son relationship at the expense of the father-daughter one. The image of a boy being taught by his dad to catch a baseball or throw a football is commonplace, while the only mainstream image of a father interacting with his teenage daughter is telling her not to come home too late when she goes out with her boyfriend. Pop tarts like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, who use partial nudity to advance their careers, are often close to their mothers, who may even serve as their managers, while their dads are nowhere to be seen.

Where you do read about a father's central involvement in his daughter's career, it usually leads to respectable women like Steffi Graff and the Williams sisters, who have resisted the offers for provocative photo spreads even after they became famous as tennis stars. This is not because mothers don't love their daughters but because men are much more successful at protecting their daughters from other men. And when a daughter receives strong masculine validation from a loving and caring father, she is usually not desperate for sexual attention from manipulative and hormonal men.

Recently the New York Times ran a front-page story about a 15-year-old girl who refused to have sex with her 16-year-old boyfriend. He promptly cheated on her. When the girlfriend found out, she told her boyfriend that they should cut class and go and have sex. She did so, she said, "in order to keep him." When I read this story, I wondered Where is this girl's father? Had her father been a strong male presence in her life, she would not have been so desperate for the affection of a scoundrel.

EVEN WHEN I go to a Yankees game, I take my five daughters along with my older son. True, they often don't know the names of the players or even the score, but they know their father loves them and hates being separated from them. There is a special connection that daughters have with their fathers that even a mother cannot replicate, which grants young women a startling immunity from compromising themselves with jerks.

Indeed, when a daughter is close to her father and respects him as a man and a dad, she begins to judge other men by that same high standard. When she dates men, she will not judge them by their smooth talk but by the depth of their commitment because her own father was not a talker but a doer. She will not jump into bed with a man just to please him. She has high self-esteem, and she expects the men in her life to make an effort to please her rather than the reverse. Her idea of a relationship is not going down to the guy's level but raising him up to hers.

THIS IS why it's so important for a father to remain the most important man in his daughter's life until she is at least 20. I always lament witnessing the deterioration of the homes of my friends whose teenage daughters are always out, either with girlfriends or boyfriends. My daughters will not date until they are of marriageable age – in our communities from 19. Up until that time, my own love for them will sustain their need for male attention. They will not be forced at too early an age to worry whether they're pretty enough, smart enough, sexy enough, or attractive enough. To their father, they are just perfect. And they will internalize that message in their most vulnerable years so they can grow into confident and robust women who attract men out of strength rather than weakness.

As for the criticisms that too close a relationship with your daughter will impede her ability to later form close connections with romantic partners, exactly the opposite is true. A young woman with an involved and loving father gains the confidence in herself to sever the childhood ties with her father and begin a loving relationship with a man precisely because she has learned to trust men. She has no fear of being vulnerable – a prerequisite for romantic love – because her father has shown her an example of a man who can be trusted and relied upon.

But if she feels betrayed by her own father, she will often run to another man more to escape pain than to find love, which is what usually makes her a prime candidate for that revealing photo spread.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: britneyspears; culture; daughters; fatherhood; fathers; feminism; parishilton; promiscuity; realityshows; sex; shmuleyboteach; sons; tramps
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We've all heard the argument for why sons need the guidance of their fathers. Here Shmuley Boteach lays out the case for why daughters need to look up to their fathers. The reason is simple: so they have a role model who can show them what to expect from a man. So when they finally look for a boyfriend and then a future husband they won't open their legs to win in bed what they were missing from an absent father in the home. Why do daughters need fathers around? So they know a man can be trusted and relied upon and that there's more to a relationship than a bout of shallow sex. The last thing a woman needs to do is not to please a man but to make sure he pleases her by living up to her standards. With the former element, a woman who lives to have men take advantage of her and her body is the notion of the tramp or slut. In contrast, the latter ideal of womanhood is what we used to call a lady.
1 posted on 04/01/2004 2:24:46 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Father/Daughter bump.

It's hard to innoculate kids against this post-Christian culture, but it will take both a father and a mother for both sons and daughters.

It has long struck the moral conservatives that it's the father who has been and continues to be viciously attacked in secular media art, sitcoms, etc.

Generally, he's portrayed as a dunce EXCEPT when he spouts relativist moral nonsense in AGREEMENT with the woman/mother who most often is the carrier of the party line. Generally, he has to be carefully led to these politically correct ideas from the back woods of morality (normally portrayed as bigotry.....see most fathers from Archie Bunker to Tim Taylor, etc.)
2 posted on 04/01/2004 2:34:28 AM PST by xzins
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To: goldstategop
There is a simple cure, aspirin.

Placed betweeen the knees.


BUMP

3 posted on 04/01/2004 2:58:06 AM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: goldstategop
I have three sons and two daughters, it takes a lot more work to bring up the daughters and of course the goal is that they become what we all want a women to be a LADY.
4 posted on 04/01/2004 3:31:33 AM PST by gakrak
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To: goldstategop
Good article. Boteach hits one out of the park occasionally.
5 posted on 04/01/2004 4:09:58 AM PST by Tax-chick (Mother of a teenager (FReeper Anoreth) for FOUR days, and I'm still as sane as I ever was!)
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Agreed, but he left out one important aspect. A girl that grows up with a father present is more likely to be a real pro at manipulating men to get what she wants.

"Daaaadie, can I......?" (Head tilt, hair toss.)

And is thus a much tougher target for the manipulative males who want only to get in her pants.

:-)
6 posted on 04/01/2004 5:11:34 AM PST by Rifleman
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
newish daddy ping ; )
7 posted on 04/01/2004 5:18:06 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
Hard to believe someone could put 'Girls GOne Wild' in a negative light, but this piece nails it.
8 posted on 04/01/2004 5:29:15 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
it is definitely something that confirmed pervs, such as yourself, have to deal with, when they birth a baby daughter...
9 posted on 04/01/2004 5:30:56 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
My master plan is to not potty train her. I mean, if I'm on a date and say Mariel Hemingway fill up her jeans in my car, well hell, even I'm not going there.
10 posted on 04/01/2004 5:37:53 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: goldstategop
And when a daughter receives strong masculine validation from a loving and caring father, she is usually not desperate for sexual attention from manipulative and hormonal men.
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Having been a girl without this type of role model(and my dad lived with us in the same house, but he was not a loving and caring father), I absolutely agree with this.
I think the absence of a father whether physically or spiritually accounts for a lot of the teenage pregnancy crap and girls giving service under school tables.
I thank God everyday for my hubby. My daughter is his sidekick since he will often take her with him to games(he does photography for community/school sport's events), the store, etc. She just adores him and his influence I hope will help guide her through those teenage years.
11 posted on 04/01/2004 5:39:35 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Hard to believe someone could put 'Girls GOne Wild' in a negative light, but this piece nails it.

No it doesn't. They are someone elses daughters.

Now let me find that damned remote.....

12 posted on 04/01/2004 5:48:07 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: goldstategop
Recently the New York Times ran a front-page story about a 15-year-old girl who refused to have sex with her 16-year-old boyfriend. He promptly cheated on her. When the girlfriend found out, she told her boyfriend that they should cut class and go and have sex. She did so, she said, "in order to keep him."

There is a lot of this in this area --- and that 15 year girl sees her 32 year old mother doing the exact same thing. They grow up seeing mom bring boyfriend after boyfriend home, no standards or restraint at all.

13 posted on 04/01/2004 5:54:56 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
that is a real plan, HD... ; )
14 posted on 04/01/2004 5:59:59 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: goldstategop
A girl will always seek out a man like her father. Some will seek out any man because their father was so remote or absent that she didn't know him. This is why children of abusive men often marry abusive men.

This is why it is so crucially important for a father of a girl to be an upstanding, righteous, loving father.

We need to be the sort of man our daughters will want to marry.

No that's not right.

We need to be the sort of man that we want our daughters to marry

No that's still not right

We need to be the sort of man that God wants our daughters to marry.

One last point. Many men distance themselves from their daughters when their daughters hit puberty. That is, they become uncomfortable with letting their little girl sit on their laps etc when their little girl starts looking like a woman. This is a huge mistake. Even if her body is looking more like her mother's, in her heart she is still your little girl and she needs to be held and loved by her father. Pushing her away at this time will just push her to some other man who will give her attention, but not in the wholesome non-sexual way that her father would.

15 posted on 04/01/2004 6:06:57 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please) {become a monthly donor. You'll never miss $5/month})
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To: Rifleman
A girl that grows up with a father present is more likely to be a real pro at manipulating men to get what she wants.

"Daaaadie, can I......?" (Head tilt, hair toss.)

And is thus a much tougher target for the manipulative males who want only to get in her pants.

Aint this the truth. I have a 3 1/2 year old daughter who is astonishingly good looking (people stop us at the mall just to get a better look and have since she was a baby). She's already learned how to flirt with her eyes to get what she wants. I pity the guys she'll grow up with. They won't know what hit them.

(Of course daddy is mostly immune to this.)

16 posted on 04/01/2004 6:10:44 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please) {become a monthly donor. You'll never miss $5/month})
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To: Rifleman
"Daaaadie, can I......?" (Head tilt, hair toss.)

I think you've met some of my daughters!

17 posted on 04/01/2004 6:14:26 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not making this up.)
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To: Rifleman
Agreed, but he left out one important aspect. A girl that grows up with a father present is more likely to be a real pro at manipulating men to get what she wants.

No, he didn't leave it out....that's not the kind of dad he's talking about. He's talking about a REAL dad, not a milquetoast, anything-my-baby-wants-my-baby-can-have kind of dad. He's talking about a dad with backbone and morals and the gonads to not crumble at a daughter throwing the Bambi-eyed "oh, daaaaaaadie, puhleeease" crap when she wants something.

18 posted on 04/01/2004 6:17:44 AM PST by ZinGirl
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To: John O
I have a 3 1/2 year old daughter who is astonishingly good looking (people stop us at the mall just to get a better look and have since she was a baby). She's already learned how to flirt with her eyes to get what she wants. I pity the guys she'll grow up with. They won't know what hit them.

My five year old was/is the same way.

When the boys come for her, I'll smile and say "Good luck!"

19 posted on 04/01/2004 6:19:09 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: goldstategop
bttt
20 posted on 04/01/2004 6:19:54 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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