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Priests Should Refuse Communion to Kerry, Leading Catholic Says
NewsMax.com | 3/31/04 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 03/31/2004 2:47:28 PM PST by kattracks

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Sen. John Kerry's defiance of his Church's condemnation of abortion and approval of gay marriage is not only a problem for him and Catholic bishops, but for individual Catholics as well, according to a leading Catholic layman and editor.

He says Catholic priests should refuse to give Holy Communion to Kerry even if their bishops have not specifically warned the senator that he is not to receive Communion.

That demand of excommunication for Kerry is made by Deal Hudson, editor of Crisis magazine, the nation's leading intellectual Catholic journal.

Hudson is a respected Catholic layman, and his views are often sought by national media and government officials, including the Bush White House.

In an exclusive interview with NewsMax.com, Hudson said that the matter of individual bishops ordering Kerry to refrain from receiving the Eucharist when in their dioceses - in other words, excommunicating him - was between Kerry and America's individual bishops, including his own.

"It's in the hands of his ordinary [bishop] - and when his ordinary has spoken and said that politicians should refrain from communion, he's alluding to the fact that someone like Sen. Kerry should not consider themselves part of the Catholic community."

Photo Opportunity

The issue will arise as Kerry campaigns around the nation and continues to insist on publicly receiving communion under the watchful eyes of the media. As a result, Hudson said, some bishops will have to face the issue head-on.

"Some bishops will be very likely be forced to clarify the Catholic faith in the wake of any campaign stops by Sen. Kerry, especially if the human life issue arises."

Hudson left no doubt that in the absence of action by their bishops, individual Catholic priests should still turn Kerry away from Communion. "Absolutely, they should," he said.

St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke has specifically warned Kerry to avoid receiving communion when visiting his archdiocese. In Kerry's home archdiocese, without mentioning him by name, Boston Archbishop Sean O'Malley has said that Catholic politicians who do not vote in line with Church teachings "shouldn't dare come to Communion."

Commenting on Archbishop Burke's instruction to Kerry, Hudson noted that Kerry avoided the confrontation by visiting a black Baptist Church when he was there recently.

Asked if he believed that the bishops individually or together should tell renegade Catholic politicians such as Sen. Kerry that they must not receive communion and that they are excommunicating themselves by so doing, Hudson said: "I think that it's what's happening, little by little. When a bishop says that someone should refrain from receiving communion without using the word excommunication, he's implying it. I think they are beginning to speak up, and Kerry's ordinary has spoken up, although he hasn't specifically mentioned Kerry as has Archbishop Burke."

While observing that the problem was a large issue for the Catholic bishops, Hudson said it also was a problem for the laity.

'Pretending to Be a Catholic'

"My view that this is a huge decisive moment for Catholics in the United States. I hope they will rise to the challenge and refuse to endorse another Catholic politician who is pretending to be a Catholic while rejecting the Church's central moral and social teachings.

"I think that the challenge is bigger for the laity than it has been for the bishops. It's an election. The issue is who's going to vote for the guy.

"I agree on one hand that it's an issue for the bishops, but in a very real sense it's even a bigger issue for the laity. If they show massive support for Kerry, that's going to set back the church in this country for at least a generation, just at a time when a significant number of bishops and laity are beginning to get active on this issue. I am keeping my eyes more focused on the laity and hoping they will reject such Catholic politicians," Hudson said.

"It is a problem for the church - the Church's identity is at stake - the church being the bishops and the laity. If they don't respond to the situation now, the Church will lose credibility."

As NewsMax.com has reported in Vatican Worries About Kerry, the Rev. Thomas Reese, editor of the Jesuit magazine America, is quoted in Time magazine as saying, "All you need is a picture of Kerry going up to the Communion rail and being denied, and you've got a story that'll last for weeks."

But Hudson told NewsMax.com he doubted that will happen. "They [Kerry's staff] are checking it very carefully, everywhere he goes to Mass.

"They're not going to let him be embarrassed, as Al Gore was embarrassed in 2000 when he was planning a campaign stop at Catholic hospital in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and the bishop canceled the visit. After that I don't believe Gore many any more attempts to visit any Catholic hospitals."

Time on Monday quoted a Vatican official, who is American, as saying: "People in Rome are becoming more and more aware that there's a problem with John Kerry, and a potential scandal with his apparent profession of his Catholic faith and some of his stances, particularly abortion."

Kerry, who likes to think of himself as JFK, has said: "We have a separation of church and state in this country. As John Kennedy said very clearly, I will be a president who happens to be Catholic, not a Catholic President."

A former altar boy, he has described himself as a "believing and practicing Catholic, married to another believing and practicing Catholic."

He insists he will continue to attend Mass and take Communion.

On Tuesday, the largest abortion rights group in the United States endorsed Kerry for president.

Calling the choice "clear," NARAL Pro-Choice America President Kate Michelman called Kerry "a president pro-choice Americans can rely on" to ensure "Roe vs. Wade remains the law of the land."

Only last week, Kerry, in a rare episode of showing up for work, was among the minority of senators voting against the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which, when President Bush signs it, will finally make it a crime to harm or kill an unborn child, abortions excluded.



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To: kattracks
I'm a Missouri Synod Lutheran member, and I can't understand how the Catholic Church can support any of Kerry's views. This is good news, as he is in favor of abortion on demand.
61 posted on 04/01/2004 5:58:43 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Give liberals a rope, and they will hang themselves with it.)
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To: RobbyS
They're American Eskimos. They get to be about 20 pounds. Sweet dogs, but man-oh-man, they bark.
62 posted on 04/01/2004 7:59:17 AM PST by Melpomene
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To: kattracks
Deal Hudson is not the only one calling for the excommunication of Kerry.

There are a number of clergy...including myself...who believe it is a paramount action to overcome the scandal he causes by calling himself Catholic or Christian.

Deacon Francis...AKA ThomasMore
63 posted on 04/01/2004 8:56:07 AM PST by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: kattracks
There'll be a great backlash against Kerry by the New Emgland Catholics come election day. /sarcasm
64 posted on 04/01/2004 8:58:00 AM PST by Preachin'
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To: Arrowhead1952
The Catholic Church doesn't support his views.

Unfortunately, certain members of the Catholic Church do!

Too many homosexuals in our clerical ranks. (one is too many)

Deacon Francis
65 posted on 04/01/2004 8:58:49 AM PST by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: Preachin'
One could only wish....

But the truth of the matter is 50% of Catholics vote party rather than faith.

I blame our clergy.

Deacon Francis
66 posted on 04/01/2004 9:00:44 AM PST by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: ThomasMore
But the truth of the matter is 50% of Catholics vote party rather than faith.

Actually, I believe that their loyalty to their unions outweighs any loyalty to Christian principles. That's just a few we can name. Specter also comes to mind.

Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton and Schumer are individuals who should NEVER be elected by true believers in Jesus.

67 posted on 04/01/2004 9:09:13 AM PST by Preachin'
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To: GraceCoolidge
One should not receive communion if in a state of mortal sin (missing mass being one example). I don't believe someone who misses mass, though, and thus shouldn't receive communion, has been excommunicated! I dislike the confusion implied in these comments. Lots of people can be in a state where they should not receive communion, but are not subject to excommunication. I firmly believe John Kerry should be excommunicated, also obviously that he should not receive communion. They aren't the same thing, however.

My grandfather was raised by an impoverished single mother after the untimely death of his father. The one thing his mother had in life was the Church.

When my grandfather married my grandmother (a Lutheran) without a dispensation, his name was read out from the altar of St. Rose's Church as he was declared publically to be excommunicated, and he was asked to leave the building in front of his mother.

This made quite an impression on him.

THAT'S excommunication-no such thing in those days as "person X has really excommunicated themselves, and should be a good boy and not receive the sacraments".

By the way (interesting followup)-my grandfather attended the UCC for his entire life after marriage, every Sunday. Never said a word, never murmured a complaint.

The day he died, he called for a priest, made a confession, and received the sacraments-and died.

THAT'S a Church that leaves an impression.

68 posted on 04/01/2004 9:10:20 AM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: NYer
What's ironic is that this is NOT a "separation of Church and State" issue. The issue is not whether abortion laws be changed for other non-Catholic Americans to be subject to Catholic doctrine. The issue is whether JOHN KERRY IS A CATHOLIC IN GOOD STANDING or not. He's not.

The Church has the right to define who is or who is not a member of the Catholic Church. If John Kerry wants to be a Catholic, he cannot promote abortion and the culture of death as part of his career. The Church teaches that certain moral issues, such as those of the right to life, are so important and so clearly involve grave matter regarding souls that Catholics have a moral duty and civic responsibility to support the morally sound position and to reject immoral positions. Catholics have a moral responsibility as Catholics to oppose the erosion of the right to life by such things as abortion, euthanasia, fetal tissue harvesting, the use of stem cells from abortions, and the destruction of human embryonic cells in questionable reproductive research or in cloning experiments. This is the clearly stated teaching of the Catholic Church. If John Kerry does not agree with this teaching, he is no longer a Catholic in good standing and may not present himself for Communion.

If he does not understand this, he's a moron. Another casualty of a liberal secular humanist "Ivy League" education. His secret society memberships also raise serious questions of a Catholic moral order.

Someone in high authority in the church needs to point this out to him in very clear terms. Preferably...in public with some admonishing gravity.

69 posted on 04/01/2004 9:10:40 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Melpomene
Pretty!
70 posted on 04/01/2004 9:25:20 AM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
The problem is that Kerry has been told the opposite by many of the Catholics he knows, including many priests. Cuomo is probably smart enough to know that Kerry has stepped over the line that Cuomo laid down in his Notre Dame speech, but being jesuitical he knows that it is best that Kerry not think otherwise, so that he can act innocent. Kerry is not reallly a smart guy, and his theological thinking does not go beyond the usual "spirit of V2" pap.
71 posted on 04/01/2004 9:32:03 AM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: RobbyS
Kerry is a VERY odd person and the circumstances surrounding his ALLEGED Catholicism are rather peculiar as well. First of all..."Kerry" is not his real name. He has in fact taken some liberties with the truth regarding his background. He is also a member of some rather strange secret societies which would seem at variance with Catholic orthodoxy, to say the least.

In a certain sense, it would be more interesting for some of the bishops to question him about his "culture of death" ideology with reference to his secret society memberships. If Kerry is bound by some strange oath of a secret society to support a weird non-Christian and anti-Catholic ideology, he is no longer any kind of Catholic.

If Skull & Bones is rigging national elections which propel pro-abortion kooks like Kerry into national office, THAT should be of real concern to the bishops of this country. They do NOT honor Christ or His Church if they fail to defend innocent life on this matter.

72 posted on 04/01/2004 11:42:56 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: sinkspur
I thought I heard that the Bishop of St. Louis said las t week that he would refuse Kerry? Did I dream that?

Kerry was in St. Louis to give a speech, but he didn't attend church. The St. Louis Bishop is the one that just transfered there from Wisconsin and caused a little dust up when he made a similar announcement in Wisconsin just before his transfer.

I support the Bishop's stand, BTW.
73 posted on 04/01/2004 6:22:18 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Yes, I read the same information in articles posted here. I believe the bishop's name is Raymond Burke. Apparently Kerry avoided the issue by going to a Baptist church instead.... I was very pleased to read of the bishop's stand on the matter. I wish we had more Church leaders like him.
74 posted on 04/02/2004 4:04:04 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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To: kattracks
Kerrys Rabbi is not gonna like this.
75 posted on 04/02/2004 4:08:44 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Dataman
We had a Catholic man run for state rep endorsement at our R caucus earlier this month. Someone asked him if he was pro-life. His answer: "Of course I'm pro-life. I'm Catholic." The response: "So is Ted Kennedy. So is John Kerry."

That is THEIR fault not your candidate's. I would say it the exact same way, and often do.

If I was asked if I supported freedom and liberty I would also say "Of course, I do. I am an American". That some people mis-characterize THEMSELVES doesn't change me, my faith or my allegiances.

76 posted on 04/02/2004 7:44:46 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: ElkGroveDan
That is THEIR fault not your candidate's.

Of course. Kennedy and Kerry give Catholics a bad name like Swaggert and Tammy Faye.

77 posted on 04/02/2004 8:44:10 AM PST by Dataman
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To: GraceCoolidge
Yes, Burke is the name. The name had escaped me momentarilty when I wrote earlier.
78 posted on 04/02/2004 12:41:49 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: kattracks
Indexing related threads - for future reference:
Diocese gives nod for Kerry to receive Eucharist
      Posted by delacoert
On News/Activism 04/10/2004 10:40:32 AM PDT with 14 comments


The Boston Herald ^ | April 10, 2004 | Eric Convey
     
 
Chicago cardinal [George] would not withhold Eucharist [Kerry]
      Posted by Polycarp IV
On News/Activism 04/10/2004 8:53:44 AM PDT with 63 comments


CWNews.com ^ | Apr. 09 | CWNews.com
     
 
Diocese gives nod for Kerry to receive Eucharist
      Posted by Fifthmark
On Religion 04/10/2004 8:39:21 AM PDT with 6 comments


The Boston Herald ^ | April 10, 2004 | Eric Convey
     
 
Chicago Cardinal would not withhold Eucharist
      Posted by Canticle_of_Deborah
On Religion 04/09/2004 4:15:11 PM PDT with 16 comments


CWNews ^ | April 9, 2003
     
 
Bishop Bruskewitz will deny Kerry the Eucharist
      Posted by johnb2004
On Religion 04/07/2004 10:39:21 AM PDT with 33 comments


www.renewamerica.us ^ | April 6, 2004 | Barbara Kralis

79 posted on 04/10/2004 12:14:49 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Indexing related threads - for future reference:
Analysts: Religious Faith Less of a Factor for Kerry
(Kerry to Receive Communion)

      Posted by delacoert
On News/Activism 04/09/2004 5:57:09 PM PDT with 28 comments


FOXNews.com ^ | April 09, 2004 | Peter Brownfeld
     
 
Kerry WILL be given Communion at Easter Mass in Boston.
      Posted by delacoert
On General Interest (Chat) 04/09/2004 5:24:38 PM PDT with 6 comments


Fox Report | April 9, 2004 | FOX Report
     
 
Kerry's Easter Plans Include Catholic Service
[& Communion! Time for a massive Catholic FREEP!]

      Posted by Polycarp IV
On News/Activism 04/08/2004 5:53:31 PM PDT with 85 comments


Yahoo! News (Reuters) ^ | 4/8/04 | Patricia Wilson
     
 
Thou shalt not flub thy photo op, Sen. Kerry
(Caught taking "communion" in Protestant Church)

      Posted by presidio9
On News/Activism 04/08/2004 11:24:10 AM PDT with 187 comments


Boston Herald ^ | Wednesday, April 7, 2004 | David R. Guarino
     
 
Kerry’s Communion Controversy
      Posted by NYer
On News/Activism 04/07/2004 11:30:48 AM PDT with 89 comments


CBS News ^ | April 6, 2004 | David Paul Kuhn
     
 
Reuters PHOTO: "ROMAN CATHOLIC" John Kerry takes communion at AME Church
[Is this kosher?]

      Posted by RonDog
On Religion 04/04/2004 9:26:17 PM PDT with 196 comments


REUTERS photo (via the Drudge thread) ^ | April 4, 2004 | RonDog
     
 
Catholic Church 'will refuse Kerry communion' -
      Posted by UnklGene
On News/Activism 04/03/2004 3:46:04 PM PST with 104 comments


The Telegraph - UK ^ | April 4, 2004 | Julian Coman
     
 
Priests Should Refuse Communion to Kerry, Leading Catholic Says
      Posted by kattracks
On News/Activism 03/31/2004 2:47:28 PM PST with 78 comments


NewsMax.com | 3/31/04 | Phil Brennan
     
 
Pro-Life Group Disgusted With Kerry Receiving Holy Communion
      Posted by kattracks
On News/Activism 03/24/2004 7:22:49 PM PST with 36 comments


CNSNEWS.com ^ | 3/24/04 | Melanie Hunter
     
 
Kerry receives Holy Communion? Divorced,remarried.
      Posted by mdittmar
On News/Activism 03/14/2004 6:54:34 PM PST with 166 comments


Reuters ^ | 3/14/04 | me

80 posted on 04/10/2004 12:32:40 PM PDT by RonDog
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