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Terri Schiavo Hospitalized With Apparent Puncture Wounds In Arm! Apparent Foul Play!
WFTV-ABC in Orlando | UNK

Posted on 03/30/2004 4:38:13 AM PST by MindBender26

In 7:25 break, anchor reported "Terri Schiavo was rushed to a Pinellas County emergency room last night after nursing home staff noticed puncture wounds on her arm. The wounds appeared to be caused by a hypodermic needle! Toxicology tests were conducted but the results are not available yet!"

This could open a huge new round in this case. What did tests reveal? Who was last person in room? When was husband there? Was staffer trying the Angle of Death routine?

This will be developing hard all day!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cultofterri; deathculture; homicide; killermike; michaelschiavo; paranoia; recklessspeculation; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrisfight; vegetable
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To: sweetliberty
PLEASE add me to your ping list. I seem to have lost track on the Terri threads for the last few months. Thanks.
361 posted on 03/30/2004 5:05:06 PM PST by MagnoliaMS
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To: Catspaw
"Schiavo's husband issued orders denying visits by anyone until the police investigation is complete."

Big shock there. I guess he needs more privacy to finish the job.

362 posted on 03/30/2004 5:08:13 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: Poohbah
Michael should have been removed as Terri's guardian long ago.
He is in violation of several statutes and should have no legal standing because of it. You can look them up http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?Mode=View%20Statutes&Submenu=1&Tab=statutes

363 posted on 03/30/2004 5:14:02 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org)
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To: tutstar
Ah, yes. You can post a link to the statutes, but you can't explain how they've been violated.

And that's the problem the Schindlers have; they haven't met the burden of proof.

364 posted on 03/30/2004 5:19:03 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: sweetliberty; floriduh voter
This came to me from a friend -

I have just discovered (!) that the Florida Bar has a complaint form online which you can download and use to file complaints against Florida lawyers who have engaged in unprofessional or unlawful behavior.

Unprofessional behavior might well include casting allegations against innocent parties publicly and before any evidence of wrongdoing exists. Unlawful behavior might even include defaming a professional publicly and without cause by using such negative terms as 'quack'. http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/30/Tampabay/Doctors_examine_Schia.shtml

The form is on
http://www.flabar.org/tfb/TFBConsum.nsf/basic+view/CF4731F3BB3384C085256B2F006C6316?OpenDocument
365 posted on 03/30/2004 5:20:39 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: FR_addict
Letter and e-mail have been shown to have an impact not just in Terri's case. I recommend polite ones only.

Rev. Jim Jones had massive letter writing campaigns -- often his followers pretended to be KKK and make wild accusations against Jones. This helped politicians get to know him. Then there were different letter writing campaigns such as the ones in favor of some bill up for a vote. Etc.

Letter writing & e-mails also were influential in a protest of a rapper Pepsi was going to use for promotion. There are many other cases.

366 posted on 03/30/2004 5:21:49 PM PST by Dante3
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To: tutstar
In several cases husbands have lost any legal rights to make life and death decisions if there is a conflict of interest or if there are suspicions that foul play might be involved.

The best know case is that of Von Klaus. Even though his conviction was overturned, Sunny's children were given the legal rights, not the husband. The children have insisted that their mother be kept alive. She is in far worse condition than Terri but is treated far better.

367 posted on 03/30/2004 5:29:36 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Pegita
I did not receive a 'ping'.....and was schocked to hear this news on Fox at 8:25pm.
368 posted on 03/30/2004 5:33:18 PM PST by mickie
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To: tutstar
Michael's behavior has been satistic towards Terri. Armed guards when parents come to visit. Incredible. Terri was prevented from getting therapy. Michael would not even allow flowers for her. And let's not forget, Michael had the feeding tube removed for both of his parents and, in his own words, felt good about it.

Michael has a mistress, two illigitmate children, and has treated Terri's parents horribly. Is that the kind of person who should decided if Terri should live?

Why not let the parents take care of her? Terri left no living will. Michael didn't even recall her "request" until eight years later.

369 posted on 03/30/2004 5:37:25 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Michael Schiavo depositions in text format available upon request. Period covers 1993 to 2000.
370 posted on 03/30/2004 5:43:55 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: Poohbah
You can post a link to the statutes, but you can't explain how they've been violated.

Too lazy to look them up eh? Or does it make no difference to you what happens to Terri?

You can read the petition detailing the specifics for yourself here

http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/PetitiontoRemoveGuardian111502.htm

Other Violations under Florida Law against Terri Schiavo

744.3215 Rights of persons determined incapacitated.--

(1) A person who has been determined to be incapacitated retains the right:

(a) To have an annual review of the guardianship report and plan.

(VIOLATED - Her husband/guardian has failed to file such plans for a number of years. During the years in which he DID submit the required plan, he entered "NONE" as his plan of action.)

(b) To have continuing review of the need for restriction of his or her rights.

(VIOLATED - The guardian courts have not required her husband/guardian to file such reports mentioned above and no consistent continuing review has taken place because of that.)

(c) To be restored to capacity at the earliest possible time.

(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo has not received therapy since prior to the 1992 medical malpractice settlement in her favor which was intended to facilitate such therapy.)

(d) To be treated humanely, with dignity and respect, and to be protected against abuse, neglect, and exploitation.

(VIOLATED - deliberate acts of omission [including humane care and food and water] are considered felony abuse under the law.)

(e) To have a qualified guardian.

(VIOLATED - her husband/guardian is no longer qualified for his failure to comply with Florida law requiring annual review of guardianship, failure to properly maintain the property of the ward, failure to comply with the ward?s retained rights to necessary services and living in open adultery which is a misdemeanor under Florida law.)

(f) To remain as independent as possible, including having his or her preference as to place and standard of living honored, either as he or she expressed or demonstrated his or her preference prior to the determination of his or her incapacity or as he or she currently expresses his or her preference, insofar as such request is reasonable.

(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo is wrongfully confined to a Hospice facility and further confined to a single room without social interaction, stimulation and human company.)

(g) To be properly educated.

(VIOLATED - Terri has not received speech therapy which could enable her to communicate more effective and to manage table food. She has not received help in learning any other protocol (such as blinking) to assist her in communicating more effectively.)

(h) To receive prudent financial management for his or her property and to be informed how his or her property is being managed, if he or she has lost the right to manage property.

(VIOLATED - Terri?s medical management fund has been all but depleted on legal fees in the pursuit of her death. More than half a million dollars has been paid to one attorney in particular. There is no evidence that Terri would have managed her funds in this way nor given any consent to such.)

(i) To receive necessary services and rehabilitation.

(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo has not received proper physical, occupational, speech or range of motion therapy. She has been denied treatment for simple infections and she has been denied hospitalization necessitated by serious illness.)

(j) To be free from discrimination because of his or her incapacity.

(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo has been denied due process in both the guardianship and federal courts.)

(k) To have access to the courts. (VIOLATED - See above.)

(l) To counsel. (VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo was never represented during the duration of the guardianship proceedings and did not have a Florida required Guardian ad Litem assigned to represent her during the majority of the proceedings.)

(m) To receive visitors and communicate with others.

(VIOLATED - Terri?s visitor list is strictly managed by her husband/guardian who has, a number of times, barred her family, her friends and her spiritual counsel from visiting her, without the court?s prior approval and on personal whim.)

(n) To notice of all proceedings related to determination of capacity and guardianship, unless the court finds the incapacitated person lacks the ability to comprehend the notice.

(VIOLATED - Terri has not been legally represented in any of the guardianship proceedings and has received no counsel.)

(4) Without first obtaining specific authority from the court, as described in s. 744.3725, a guardian may not:

(a) Commit the ward to a facility, institution, or licensed service provider without formal placement proceeding, pursuant to chapter 393, chapter 394, or chapter 397. (VIOLATED - Terri was admitted to a Hospice facility in 2000 without prior court approval and in violation of Federal laws pertaining to Hospice confinement qualifications.)

(b) Consent on behalf of the ward to the performance on the ward of any experimental biomedical or behavioral procedure or to the participation by the ward in any biomedical or behavioral experiment. The court may permit such performance or participation only if:

1. It is of direct benefit to, and is intended to preserve the life of or prevent serious impairment to the mental or physical health of the ward; or

2. It is intended to assist the ward to develop or regain his or her abilities.

(VIOLATED - Terri Schiavo was subjected to experimental implant surgery in 1993 without prior court approval and without recommendation of her attending physician. Additionally, she was transported across state lines for said surgery. Additionally, follow up care was never provided and no further maintenance services have ever been provided for the implanted electrodes.)

(c) Initiate a petition for dissolution of marriage for the ward.

(d) Consent on behalf of the ward to termination of the ward's parental rights.

(e) Consent on behalf of the ward to the performance of a sterilization or abortion procedure on the ward

Schiavo lives with his "girlfriend" – the mother of his child.

If there is any doubt as to how long Michael has been in violation of the guardian statutes---- this from:

http://www.highway2health.net/schiavo_bottom.htm

A Bucks County, Pennsylvania newspaper on July 2, 1997, reported Michael's mother's death, "survived by Michael and fiancee' Jodi" Centonze. There's no mention of his WIFE Terri. ...Sooooo JODI has been a FIANCEE since at least July 1997.

Its funny, how does one ask a woman to marry you, while still being married to another woman, and a court has already judged the wife has a life expectancy of 45 MORE years.

371 posted on 03/30/2004 6:01:17 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Please contact ombudsman. Make a report in "good faith." Make sure you include your name, address, phone number, as that is part of the process. I also contacted the Advocacy Center, JEB, ACLJ, NCEA, and more. Here is the reply I received from the National Center on Elder Abuse in DC.
Ms. Ward -

Thank you for contacting the NCEA. I am sorry to hear about this - these matters need to be investigated by the Long Term Care Ombudsman in the state where the incident occurred. In Florida, that number is 800-962-2873.

National Center on Elder Abuse
1201 15th Street, N.W., Suite 350
Washington, D.C. 20005-2800
202/898-2586 (phone)
202/898-2583 (fax)
NCEA@nasua.org

In the weeks Terri has been at Park Place she has vomited twice, lost two molars, developed a decubitus ulcer and now, allegedly, was assaulted.

She is not allowed any visitors. Her family has been denied visitation, and so have friends. Her lack of treatment will be further compromised without any family and friends to check on her.

Here is what I sent

To Whom It Concerns,

In the past several days, word has been sent out that Terri Schiavo, currently housed at:
Park Place in Clearwater, Fl.
Assisted Living Facility
2750 Drew St.
727 799 2177
has lost a tooth, has a decubitus ulcer to the buttock, (a bedsore) and has lost a second tooth.

According to Cheryl Ford, RN, Schindler family confidant, the staff refuses to speak to the family. The staff will not answer any questions, in violation of a 1996 court order, regarding the bedsore. If untreated, the sore worsens, affecting the muscle then bone, Terri becomes septic, and dies.

To house this brain injured woman in a health care facility, provide substandard care, and deny her basic rights of protection is abusive as hell. Unresolved litigation and disputes within the family are not the issue. Terri Schiavo is the issue.

Consider this a good faith report. The facility should be investigated along with personnel. To flagrantly violate state laws by not reporting abuse to this gal is not a comforting feeling. Each caregiver who has had contact with Terri needs investigated.

Check what narcotics are being given Terri allegedly in a PVS, and how they deduce she is in pain if she is a PVS. Find out why this gal receives no sensory stimulation. Why she is not allowed outside in a wheelchair with her family. Why her family is not allowed to take photos. Why visitors must be approved by the estranged husband. Why there is an armed officer inside her room. The Schindler's are not able to bond with their daughter in a normal fashion. This is not health care. This is jail.

39.201 and 415.1034, Fla. Stat.
415.102(1), Fla. Stat.
415.102(26), Fla. Stat.
39.205 and 415.111, Fla. Stat. regarding failure to report; section 464.018, Fla. Stat. regarding disciplinary actions
39.203 and 415.1036, Fla. Stat.
825.101(2), Fla. Stat.
National Center on Elder Abuse, www.elderabusecenter.org
825.102 and 827.03, Fla. Stat
372 posted on 03/30/2004 6:03:28 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: tutstar
Thanks for listing all the statues Michael has broken.
373 posted on 03/30/2004 6:14:02 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: pc93
Unprofessional behavior might well include casting allegations against innocent parties publicly and before any evidence of wrongdoing exists. Unlawful behavior might even include defaming a professional publicly and without cause by using such negative terms as 'quack'.
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/30/Tampabay/Doctors_examine_Schia.shtml

This is a good idea. He sure is casting aspirations on the Schindler's today.
374 posted on 03/30/2004 6:15:32 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: pc93
Thanks for posting the info for National Center on Elder Abuse
375 posted on 03/30/2004 6:16:42 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Poohbah
You are absolutely right. A lot of emotion has driven the movement to help Terri in the wrong directions on several occasions.

What should we do to save her, to restore her estate and to get her the treatment that she needs?

376 posted on 03/30/2004 6:20:46 PM PST by TaxRelief (God bless America and God bless our troops!)
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To: CindyDawg
Cindy,

Do you think the Schindlers drew blood from Terri, or that someone wanted it to look that way?
377 posted on 03/30/2004 6:24:05 PM PST by TaxRelief (God bless America and God bless our troops!)
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To: TaxRelief
What should we do to save her, to restore her estate and to get her the treatment that she needs?

First thing: the Schindlers need to fire their attorney and hire one that is more interested in winning the case than in milking billability.

378 posted on 03/30/2004 6:32:43 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: tutstar
If you are for Terri and feel so strongly that another plan should be tried why not suggest one?

I have. Get better lawyers. Get professional PR help. Keep the kooks away. Period.

How can you say that Felos isn't a fanatic? He thinks he has enough mental power to bring down a plane and that he can read the souls of disabled people. He wrote Litigation As Spiritual Practice and for him these cases do have a religious undertone.

Meaningless. Johnny Cochran has horrible bad breath and OJ walked. Felos is winning every legal point. We are losing. If he is a fanatic, we need some better legal fanatics on our side.

How can you support the statement that MS side has the legal standing and not Terri's?

If everyone on our side does not understand that a married woman's husband has LEGAL standing to speak for her when she cannot, and her parents do not have that standing, why has anyone tried to do anyhting without comprehending that from Day One. Law 101.

Why won't you name the non-lawyer you keep mentioning?

Do a little research yourself as to prior posts. It will be most entertaining and enlightening. I don;t want him suing me. Even though he is a complete fool, I'd still have to hire a real lawyer to defend me.

What is so idiotic about showing a video of Terri?

Because it showed that for about 98% of the video, she had no interaction with her surroundings or those people with her! She looked like she was in a coma 98% of the time!

How are you helping her by making such negative comments?

Negative Comments! Wake up, smell the coffee. We are losing and losing badly.... but our side wants to play General Custer and not hear "negative comments!"

Offer real suggestions instead of so much criticism. I'm sure Terri's family and a lot of Freepers would be all ears to a good plan.

I have. Get a better lawyer. Get professional PR help. I have recommended well-respected names in both areas to Schiavo family friends months ago. Get rid of the kooks, the quacks, the "kill the abortionist" crowd and the phony lawyers!!!

"Caring" is not enough. Do what is smart. Terri will die if the foolishness continues.

379 posted on 03/30/2004 6:33:54 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: FR_addict
Yep. That's George Felos, in his own words.

No need to feel hesitant to say he is either a huckster or a nut.

380 posted on 03/30/2004 6:39:12 PM PST by syriacus (2001: The Daschle-Schumer Gang obstructed Bush's attempts to organize his administration -->9/11)
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