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Tomorrow you will watch the destruction of an American Aircraft Carrier
Northeast Intelligence Network ^ | 03/29/04 | Source

Posted on 03/29/2004 7:56:56 PM PST by Rightone

Edited on 07/27/2004 2:55:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Arabic posting:

(Excerpt) Read more at homelandsecurityus.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqueda; antiamericanism; antiwesternism; blowemup; bombthreat; hangon; idiots; islam; islamofascism; islamofascists; jihad; marines; military; muslims; nationalsecurity; navy; nedebkanetwork; notachance; osama; religionofpeace; religionofpeacetm; sheesh; shieldsup; terror; terrorism; terroristbombing; terrorists; threats; usskittyhawk; waronterror; wot
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To: Glock17
I forgot to add if they try to do it at night the boat will be making rapid unpredictible heading changes. Yuck, Yuck.

"I call you Mom, but if you are my mother why do you wield the Final Bearing as if it were a double-edged sword swinging back and forth in wild unceasing arcs."
-Focsle folley material by a hornet driver named "Tut"
221 posted on 03/29/2004 9:42:44 PM PST by USNBandit
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To: BluH2o
The second Kitty Hawk (CVA-63) was laid down by the New York Ship Building Corp., Camden, N.J., 27 December 1956; and launched 21 May 1960, sponsored by Mrs. Neil H. McElroy; and commissioned 29 April 1961 at Philadelphia Naval Shipyard , Capt. William F. Bringle in command.

The Kitty Hawk (CVA-63) has been on active duty 43 years. Typically a US Navy ship has a active duty life span of 25 or 30 years before being decommissioned. US taxpayers are getting their moneys worth with the Kitty Hawk.

Well, for some reason the Japanese are a little squeamish about American Nukes. The Kittyhawk is on of the last conventionally powered carriers still on active duty. And the shipyard at Yokosuka is superb, she will live on there indefinitely. Jack
222 posted on 03/29/2004 9:42:55 PM PST by btcusn (Giving up the right to arms is a mistake a free people get to make only once.)
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To: AntiGuv
submit a flight plan that would take it over the carrier, follow the flight plan until I'm overhead or close to it, and then just dive into

Wouldn't happen. They don't let air traffic over TG's.

223 posted on 03/29/2004 9:43:22 PM PST by banjo joe
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To: GeronL
Maybe four airliners??

They would have to get through an extensive array of radar without being noticed - not very likely. As soon as any aircraft, ship or anything else is picked up, fighter jets will be scrambled in a hurry to challenge the threat.

224 posted on 03/29/2004 9:43:28 PM PST by slimer ("The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato)
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To: Long Cut
No doubt about that.

I have been told that they wargamed the scenario I presented in Volume I of Dragon's Fury involving the large supercavitating weapons.

225 posted on 03/29/2004 9:46:08 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: slimer
Here we go again...

I know that. Its been pointed out a dozen times.

226 posted on 03/29/2004 9:47:06 PM PST by GeronL (www.armorforcongress.com..... put a FReeper in Congress)
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To: Jeff Head
I have been told that they wargamed the scenario I presented in Volume I of Dragon's Fury involving the large supercavitating weapons.

Before or after you published it?

227 posted on 03/29/2004 9:47:51 PM PST by GeronL (www.armorforcongress.com..... put a FReeper in Congress)
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To: California74
While America and the President are distracted with these impeachment proceedings (President Clinton impeachment),the Persian Gulf fleet, headed by the U.S. Aircraft Carrier Kitty Hawk, will be attacked by nuclear warhead tipped cruise missile in the Persian Gulf.

Well, if that's an accurate translation of this guys viison...that nails it. Unless it's a future date where Hildabeast is being impeached...he was just smokin dope.

228 posted on 03/29/2004 9:48:50 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: GeronL
I was told about it after it was published.
229 posted on 03/29/2004 9:49:55 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: HarryCaul
Japan, my Navy son just returned from a stint on it about a month ago.
230 posted on 03/29/2004 9:51:06 PM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: Jeff Head
wow. They got the idea from you maybe?? Or from the same source where you got the idea?

Where did you get the idea?

231 posted on 03/29/2004 9:51:54 PM PST by GeronL (www.armorforcongress.com..... put a FReeper in Congress)
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To: btcusn
Well, for some reason the Japanese are a little squeamish about American Nukes. The Kittyhawk is on of the last conventionally powered carriers still on active duty. And the shipyard at Yokosuka is superb, she will live on there indefinitely. Jack

It was my understanding that the Kitty Hawk is slated to retire as soon as the GWB comes into service. If the nuke issue is a problem, there is still the JFK.

232 posted on 03/29/2004 9:53:13 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: HitmanNY
A muslim sailor in the armory or magazine or engine room.
233 posted on 03/29/2004 9:55:32 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: btcusn
It was my understanding that the Kitty Hawk is slated to retire as soon as the GWB comes into service. If the nuke issue is a problem, there is still the JFK.

Whoops, the GHWB I mean. Unfortunately we might see a WJC before a GWB.

234 posted on 03/29/2004 9:56:49 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: Rightone
You know, the most likely form of attack would be an inside job, a muslum sailor placing a small charge in the bomb magazine. If he can detonate one bomb, the resulting explosive chain reaction would gut the ship. A smuggled suitcase nuke would much more likely be headed for the vicinity of the White House than a ship, even a carrier.

Or, they might try another "USS Cole" type attack: wait near a narrow water "choke point" the carrier has to pass through, then come out, (at night?) in a number of small speedboats or (more likely) take over a harbor tug, pack it with explosives, (or gas/germ weapons?) and ram. If you have enough such suicide attackers to keep the escorts busy, it might work. (I admit it is not likely, but you never know).
235 posted on 03/29/2004 9:58:42 PM PST by DarthMaulrulesok (Islam is in a clash of civilizations with the West whether we like it or not.)
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To: jayef
If the terrs sink a carrier what kind of escalation would you expect from the U.S.? We already have 120,000 troops in Iraq. Another 20,000 in Afghanistan. I would think that escalation would not be possible with the kinder gentler compassionate high moral ground type of combat we are employing.

I would advocate a withdrawal of troops from Iraq and knock off Syria and Iran with Nukes. I would say, we tried it the nice - turn your cheek way, and now it will be the - kill em all let whoeva sort em out. But hey thats just me.
236 posted on 03/29/2004 10:00:50 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: TomGuy; Petronski
There have been reports that al-Qaeda has 15-20 vessels and intends to become involved in attacks from the sea. I haven't read any reports as to exactly what kinds of vessels they have.

Visit me and see the leaky, 12-ft. aluminum dinghy in my farm pond:  you will get an accurate picture.

(Thanks to Petronski for the inspiration. :-)

 


237 posted on 03/29/2004 10:01:09 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Mr. Mojo
We are already in an all-out war against "terrorists everywhere."
What more can we do on the offensive front?

We are not in an all-out war. How many factories in your town
have stopped making widgets and converted to production of war materials?
Have you been issued your gasoline ration card?
Are there still young men in your town that haven't been activated?
How many times in the last year has the front page of your paper
had the headline "Capitol of rag country (fill in the blank) gone?"
Few of us here at home have been effected directly by this WOT,
as would be the case if it was a real all-out war.

We're not anywhere near "all-out" war footing, as evidenced by the continued existance of several ME nations.

Offensively one SSBN could put a stop to the rag terrorism in 15 minutes. That's all-out war.
We won't do it though, because they're not a nation destroying treat to us.
We also like to think of ourselves as civilized.

238 posted on 03/29/2004 10:01:50 PM PST by ASA Vet ("Anyone who signed up after 11/28/97 is a newbie")
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To: Nita Nupress
I found the one they're threatening!


239 posted on 03/29/2004 10:06:57 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317
Wow. That's impressive!
240 posted on 03/29/2004 10:08:28 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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