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Al Franken vs. Rush Limbaugh
The Weekly Standard ^ | 3/26/04 | David Skinner

Posted on 03/26/2004 2:36:00 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

NEXT WEEK, Air America Radio debuts its around-the-clock radio station of the left. Al Franken will play the marquee role, filling the noon-to-3:00 p.m. slot. Daily Show co-creator Lizz Winstead will run the morning program with Public Enemy rapper Chuck D. And comedienne Janeane Garofalo will be punching the clock at 8:00 p.m. Opening Day is March 31.

Which raises a good question: Why don't they just wait 24 hours and do the launch on April Fool's Day?

Suddenly the idea that liberals can have a successful talk-radio franchise has become something other than a joke. It's hard to say why, but in the accumulated success of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News, the left sees a mirror-image of what conservatives call liberal media bias. It's not the same thing, of course, but persecution envy has set in, and now various influential and/or rich liberals want their own vibrant alternative media and legions of devoted fans. The left wants dittoheads, and bad.

Aside from the obvious problem with this scenario (the left already dominates the networks, NPR, CNN, Hollywood, and so on), there are several ways in which the basic idea doesn't add up.

THE RUSH LIMBAUGH RIDDLE.

What made Rush Limbaugh successful? Like Rush himself, many on the left have settled on the answer that it was a simple matter of talent and recognizing an opportunity. This theory of course contradicts others about Rush advanced by critics, for one that he is a success mainly because he tells conservative listeners what they want to hear--but never mind that. If success on radio is basically a question of being entertaining, well, then the left can do that. The left, after all, can claim the allegiance of the vast majority of working entertainers. Besides, all Rush did was realize there was an audience for conservative talk and, like any good businessman would, decide to use his radio talent to cater to this market.

All sorts of comforting thoughts go along with this. For example: "Rush wasn't terribly political before the birth of his show in Sacramento," Jason Zengerle wrote in the New Republic in his piece on the coming rise of liberal talk radio.

Perhaps, but not really. Limbaugh, as Paul Colford reported in his 1993 book The Rush Limbaugh Story, was not even registered in the first 12 years he was eligible to vote and so (insincerity catch!) never went to the polls for his hero Ronald Reagan. Colford also quotes a producer who worked with Rush: "I don't think it was his intention to become this big, conservative icon for so many people. A lot of it was just shtick. Still is shtick."

Except Limbaugh's shtick didn't take aim in some random, but bipartisan, fashion. Covering the 1984 Democratic National Convention, Rush got it in his head that the hotel bar was a gay bar. He went in to do some interviews, Limbaugh's KMBZ colleague Ray Dunaway told Colford. Rush "tried to tape an interview with one of the patrons, thinking the guy might say it was a gay bar, and that way Rush could then say that homosexuals were supporting Walter Mondale." At this time, Limbaugh was still doing radio in Kansas City, before he even got hired to replace Morton Downey Junior in Sacramento.

Another theory of Rush has it that "Limbaugh rose as a reaction to Clinton," as Russell Shorto put it in a recent New York Times Magazine cover article about Franken. Actually, Limbaugh was a very big deal before Clinton. Which is why he was already being called a kingmaker at the 1992 Republican National Convention, where he hosted then-president George H.W. Bush on his show. And he has remained a big deal after Clinton.

CONVENTIONAL WISDOM (providing yet another self-serving theory) holds that the quality of, and market for, opinion journalism both increase in moments of political opposition. Which sounds true, except when it's not. For every American Spectator that sees its circulation soar under Clinton, there are many other publications and shows and stations whose progress follows a totally different pattern. Take the huge inroads made by Fox News during the Bush administration.

Now consider The O'Franken Factor, which is the comparison-begging name of Franken's radio show. The reason he might be the next Rush is that Franken, it is argued, has a singular bond with liberals. A recent New York Times Magazine cover article describes Franken receiving a Beatlemania girl shriek when he appeared at a John Kerry rally. Even as John Kerry, also on stage, owned the spotlight, following his big win in Iowa. Franken has also become a player in the Democratic party behind the scenes.

He hosted a get-to-know-you cocktail party for Kerry and a crowd of media elite at his Manhattan apartment. This was in December, before Kerry dethroned front-runner Howard Dean. Time magazine's Jim Kelly, who attended, told the Times: "It may have been the actual beginning of the new approach [Kerry] took."

But as a well-known quantity, Franken follows in the footsteps of already famous lefty bigwigs such as Mario Cuomo and Jerry Brown who thought they had the juice to match Rush. Another ill omen, of course, is the fate of Phil Donahue's failed television comeback as an answer to the seeming conservative domination of political talk. Franken is friends with the Clintons. He's a best-selling author who seems to appear at whim on late night talk shows. The man is a Saturday Night Live alum. He may be too much of an insider and too cool to pull this off.

When you look at the conservative personalities of the twentieth century who fundamentally changed the art and sport of political debate in the mainstream, you find a history of outsiders. Whittaker Chambers was socially awkward, spiritually tormented, overweight--in short an outcast who thought he was committing political suicide by joining the right. Silver-tongued and elegant William F. Buckley took the world by storm, but as something of a loner. In Cavett by Dick Cavett and fellow Yalie Chester Porterfield, Porterfield says that "even when we arrived four years later [in 1954] professors were still shaking their heads over Buckley and saying that if only he possessed the common touch he'd be truly a dangerous man." Though of different order of seriousness, Rush Limbaugh was (and is) another overweight, socially awkward one-of-a-kind. Fired several times from radio jobs, he burned through a couple of marriages and was in hot water with his employer for cracking jokes while reading the news when he began his ascent as the most significant radio talent of his generation.

None of these pioneers rode into town on a wave of popularity. Rather, it was in hiding, during off years, and without the whole world calling that they rediscovered the language of conservatism and delivered it anew to wide acclaim.

Al Franken and cast are trying to capture turf the left has never held. And they are not content to work slowly. Franken has signed only a one-year contract and has made it clear that his real goal is simply the unseating of George W. Bush. Maybe it's possible that he can charge away, on the air for three hours every day, for a few months. But, after the fuel of Election Day runs out, what? Other talent will have to break through, and on the double. Because anti-Bush venom is a pretty shallow pool from which to draw a large popular audience, reminding one of perhaps the darkest omen for the Air America Radio Network: the fate of the Howard Dean campaign.


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1 posted on 03/26/2004 2:36:00 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
And they are not content to work slowly. Franken has signed only a one-year contract and has made it clear that his real goal is simply the unseating of George W. Bush. Maybe it's possible that he can charge away, on the air for three hours every day, for a few months. But, after the fuel of Election Day runs out, what?

The author is missing the point -- Air America is not intended to be a longtime radio mainstay. It exists for exactly one reason: to get Bush out of office. It's an easy way for Democrats to funnel money to that effort without worrying about campaign finance laws.

2 posted on 03/26/2004 2:49:33 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
It exists for exactly one reason: to get Bush out of office. It's an easy way for Democrats to funnel money to that effort without worrying about campaign finance laws.
There is already a loophole in CFR which liberals are, will, and always have been driving a truck through - it's called journalism. If you are a journalist you can report the news right up to election day, "so people know what's going on." But "what is going on" is only to be seen in retrospect; making that call in real time is an ink-blot test.

Journalism is politics. By the freedom journalists have to decide what is and what is not news, journalists express their politics - and vice versa. The rules of what makes a "great story" are anticonservative in nature; the business of reporting consists of looking for the hole in the conservative donut.

Journalism calls itself "the press," as if the particular genre of nonfiction publishing which is published periodically on a fixed schedule with short deadlines were the only thing the First Amendment freedom to publish was talking about. In reality, of course, books ain't chopped liver. Even fiction (e.g., Uncle Tom's Cabin) can have a powerful political effect.

The true motive of the push for "a liberal Rush Limbaugh" is to provide cover for the liberalism of journalism. It is to help in the ongoing propaganda campaign to "position" journalism as being something other than the liberalism that is so obviously is.


3 posted on 03/26/2004 3:28:37 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (No one is more subjective than the person who believes in his own objectivity.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
This theory of course contradicts others about Rush advanced by critics, for one that he is a success mainly because he tells conservative listeners what they want to hear--

Nope. Rush simply gave voice to a lot of stuff I was noticing, and thinking all along. And for whatever it's worth, I probably agree less with Rush than with many other radio hosts- but he's informative, entertaining ( the parodies alone are worth tuning in for ) and always polite. I like that.

What so many commentators on this subject don't mention ( for whatever reason ) is that radio is a business, and business is about numbers, profit, and money- if Rush didn't attract a lot of listeners, sponsors would go elsewhere, and he'd fade away.

Whether the Voices of the Left will fall or prosper will be a very interesting and entertaining event to observe.

4 posted on 03/26/2004 3:31:40 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
They'll fail miserably.......we all know exactly why.......and it will be fun to watch.
5 posted on 03/26/2004 3:34:44 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I watched about 2 minutes of Janeane Garofalo when she subbed on some program on CNN or MSNBC a few months ago.

The one notable thing about Janeane Garofalo's appearance was they she couldn't go off-script. She didn't seem capable of following the stream of discussion. She was constantly looking down at and fumbling with sheets of paper (her script?) on the desk in front of her.




So, what's Hannity, Larson, Rush, Savage, and all the other conservative talkshow hosts going to do now that the voice of radio is going to be Frankin's? [end sarcasm]

I doubt LibRadio will last much longer than Phil Donahoe's return to TV (MSNBC) lasted.
6 posted on 03/26/2004 3:50:18 AM PST by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: TomGuy
no pun intended.

Ditto what you said!
7 posted on 03/26/2004 4:07:45 AM PST by PokeyJoe (FreeBSD; The devil made me do it.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
A lot of liberals listen to conservative talk radio. They listen, I believe, because there is a deeply felt human need to hear logical, reasoned thought expressed in words. And no one does this as articulately and with such insight as Rush.

But there is no reasoned, logical thought coming from leftists like Franken, Garafolo, or any other of the blowhards on tap for this network. There are a few liberals worth reading, such as Nat Hentoff and sometimes Christopher Hitchens, but I doubt that there will be many of those on Air America. So conservatives will give it a listen, out of curiosity, and then permanently stay away in droves.

But there are plenty of Bush haters out there, and there aren't a lot of talk stations for them to express that hatred, so I'm predicting this thing will go pretty well until after the election. Then, when Bush is re-elected, they'll not only still hate him, but they'll be even more frustrated. So who knows, it might really take off. Oh well, God bless 'em.

8 posted on 03/26/2004 4:17:33 AM PST by giotto
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
This could harm them, more than help them. When Alan Colmes was on the air, he was considered by most to be a fruitcake.

He was a fruitcake, because of his ideaology, his liberal beliefs. Very few people in this country actually think like a liberal. Most Democrats I know are way more conservative than liberal. They are in denial that their Democrat Party is actually as idiotic as, their liberal hosts might suggest they are.
If, the new liberal radio network is honest about who, they really are, it will only defeat their purpose and help re-elect President Bush.
I honestly hope it is successful. though , it won't be.
9 posted on 03/26/2004 4:18:27 AM PST by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
And who is going to advertise on this network,
  1. Bungee Condoms? Sorry, Rush already has that account.
  2. The Josef Mengele Womens Health Zenter - Combining womens needs with an eastern mystical respect for life
  3. Bush Whackers - a drinking establishment for liberals - home of the Teddy Kennedy million dollar bar tab.
  4. Pinque - a fun bathhouse for Barney and the boys.
  5. etc.

10 posted on 03/26/2004 4:21:38 AM PST by reg45
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
i can see franken being there everyday because he doesn't have anything else to do, but does anyone expect rappers and comediennes to show up everyday for work? my response reads as such: har har har

i'm guessing that the libs will keep this afloat until the day after the general election


11 posted on 03/26/2004 4:34:28 AM PST by InvisibleChurch ("I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.")
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To: NYCVirago
" The author is missing the point -- Air America is not intended to be a longtime radio mainstay. It exists for exactly one reason: to get Bush out of office. It's an easy way for Democrats to funnel money to that effort without worrying about campaign finance laws."

I think you’re right. This author doesn’t bring up the possibility that the subject of his analysis is simply a misdirection. Looks like he took the bait and ran.

12 posted on 03/26/2004 5:09:52 AM PST by elfman2
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Franken was on Jon Stewart's Daily Show last night. I think he pretty much did his entire radio show in the five minute interview.

Basically, it boiled down to:

1)Conservatives lie.
2)Bush is stupid.

I can't believe this is all they can come up with - all these brilliant intellectuals on the left.
13 posted on 03/26/2004 5:17:52 AM PST by P.O.E. (Enjoy every sandwich)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
What libs don't understand, among many things, is the content. They are completely mystified by the success of Rush, attributing it all to his presentation, shtick or other gimmicks. What people are sick of, is the governing elite media's arrogant presentation of blatant lies and wacko philosophies - and Rush has an unmatched ability to lay them all out in clear and hilarious fashion, when he gets on a roll.

The leftist weenies think they can match this with a cheap-shot one-liner "comedian", in the form of Al Franken. The low-tone and fact-free zone that Franken brings with him will have serious listeners rapidly clearing their radio memories of his station settings, leaving only the dim-witted DUmmies calling in to spout, "Yeah, man, like I really hate Bush too, dude!" And that...will be that.

14 posted on 03/26/2004 5:26:44 AM PST by guitfiddlist
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Al Franken vs. Rush Limbaugh

That's a bit like comparing Paris Hilton to Stephen Hawkins, isn't it?
15 posted on 03/26/2004 5:27:07 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (So you're a feminist - isn't that cute!)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Al Franken's picture will never appear in the dictionary beside the definition of comedian.
16 posted on 03/26/2004 5:50:03 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: P.O.E.
The limousine liberal bewitches and exploits the gullible, the ignorant, the trusting. He reserves for himself all the advantages of capitalism, wealth and treasures, all the joys and pleasures of life. Yet meanwhile the limousine liberal complains about oppression and persecution, about hatred and prejudice against others. But the limousine liberals have gathered and swindled the world's money.
17 posted on 03/26/2004 6:16:55 AM PST by jojodamofo
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To: All
None of these pioneers rode into town on a wave of popularity. Rather, it was in hiding, during off years, and without the whole world calling that they rediscovered the language of conservatism and delivered it anew to wide acclaim.

"they rediscovered the language of conservatism and delivered it anew to wide acclaim"

Anew?! That is total BS! I cannot count the number of times callers exclaimed to Rush and all the other talk show hosts, "I never knew anyone else believed as I believe!" or "I thought that I was the only one who knew / remembered that!"

There was nothing new, except..

We had this little thing called the FCC "Fairness Doctrine." Stations owners could lose their licenses if they allowed opinions on the air that weren't fa-a-a-a-a-a-air. Guess who did all the complaining.

The market for conservative talk's brand of opinion journalism was always there. President Reagan made it possible when he did away with the "Fairness Doctrine."

We weren't "in hiding." We knew conservative opinion was virtually banned from the mainstream. I wrote letters to the networks in the 1960s -- noooo, they responded, we're all professional, highly trained and very intelligent journalists. Mr. Skinner must be some youngster under sixty.

The decades of the 1960s, 70s, and most of the 1980s proved that liberals can make it only if they are backed by a "Fairness Doctrine." Watch out! After these pukes fail bringing back "fairness" is next. Over their dead bodies!

BTW, Morton Downey Junior in Sacramento was fired for saying "Chinaman" on the air. Yes, a Sacramento city council critter was offen-n-n-n-n-n-n-ed and the best and brightest Sacramento Bee brains played up the story big time.

18 posted on 03/26/2004 6:19:07 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: P.O.E.
1. Conservatives lie
2. Bush is stupid


Didn't the liberals make this mistake the last time?
19 posted on 03/26/2004 6:23:07 AM PST by ChevyZ28 (We can make the plans of our heart, but the final out come is in God's hands.)
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To: guitfiddlist
Here in Orlando recently the local show that follows Rush
ran a three hour special for Democrats to call in and state why they would vote for Kerry.

The host stated that the answer "He's not Bush would not be sufficient". It was a long empty show.
20 posted on 03/26/2004 6:44:33 AM PST by ijcr (Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ability.)
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