Anti-Firearms Letter From Berkeley

Email from Berkeley | March 18th, 2004 | "C_____ J. W______" <c_____@berkeley.edu>

[Travis McGee]

"C_____ _. W______" wrote:

I represent me only. This is a comment and my opinion.

I don't think the "foundering fathers" had AK-47 or automatic weapons on their minds when they gave American citizens the right to bare arms or when you quoted these individuals to sale your book.

To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." "What is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials. ~George Mason, 1788

"On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." ~Thomas Jefferson, 1823

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms..." ~Samuel Adams, 1788

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." ~Edmund Burke

"Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves." ~William Pitt, 1783

"The militia is our ultimate safety. We can have no security without it. The great object is that every man be armed." ~Patrick Henry

We give up our freedom every time we go into another country under the flag of democracy to kill the citizens of another country.

Do you think these people love their families less than Americans. Do you think they will forget. People love their families like you love your own.

Life is basic: to have food, shelter, drinkable water, medicine for the sick. Don't you think that if the world's poor had a choose they would chose to live in peace not war. Don't you think if American poor had a choice they would want just what you have, to provide for their families and enjoy the basics. Instead, we sale them guns to take their resources, we sale them war.

I am a veteran who volunteered no one had to draft me. I was born in this country and have traveled to other countries. I have had children and adult family members killed by guns. This is life long pain. It does not make you want to run out to buy a gun. That gun will not bring back one of my loved ones.

This week three American citizens were killed with AK-47 in Iraq. Do you think they may have bought these guns from the US.

It would be great if all Americans used muskets. The world would be a safer place for all of us to live.

There is a difference between automatic weapons of mass destruction on the streets and a musket in your home for your home protection.

If you are making a profit from the sale of these guns then of course your argument is for the (mass) production of these automatic weapons.

God bless

[Travis McGee]

What can happen only after "Gun Control" is fully instituted:

[Shut up and take it]

I salute your effort to enlighten a Berkley liberal. Too bad these pointy-headed, pseudo intellectuals don't care about History beyond revising it!

[MrJingles]

It would be great if all Americans used muskets. The world would be a safer place for all of us to live.

All right; the day the gang-bangers of the world (and for that matter, the ATF,) lay down their TEK-9's and MP5's, I'll go buy a Brown Bess.

Until then, I'll stick with the fixed ammunition, thank you...

[Travis McGee]

Actually the writer is a woman, based on her full first name.

[Blood of Tyrants]

He's not a vet, he is too stupid to be a vet. He is the email version of a Rush Limbaugh seminar caller making false claims to try to lend validity to his lies.

[Puppage]

I have had children and adult family members killed by guns

How many were killed by law abiding citizens there Whimpy, hmmm?

[Travis McGee]

Note the family members were simply killed by "guns."

As if the "guns" just hopped down the street by themselves, firing at people with malicious metal minds.

[45Auto]

Your reply is well-reasoned, well-written, based on historical fact, and logical to the core; therefore, I don't expect the illiterate who wrote to you to understand one word of it. Liberalism is a mental disorder and socialism is a disease - so much so that those who embrace them have no basis on which to grasp truth or reality - they "feel" a certain way, so, to them, that must be the only true reality. I know liberals who cling to the "belief" (much of it fueled by daily drug use) that, "If I thought of it, it must be true." Such people are rarely able to be rehabilitated - they are fit only to wear the chains of slavery (which they themselves have forged) unto the third generation.

[Citizen Tom Paine]

I bumped into a similar argument a few day ago. It appears that some more critters are crawling out from under the rocks as spring approaches.

One of the ideas behind the concept of a militia was that they could be armed with (and own) the best current military weapons that contemporary technology could provide (at that time muskets and swords). So, I consider that a private individual should be able to own anything that he could buy (and responsibly) use and maintain.

[Shooter 2.5]

I live in the great land of Kansas where we can carry concealed weapons now.

When exactly did Kansas pass a CCW law? The last time I checked a Bill was introduced and it's going to be vetoed by your governor.

[N. Theknow]

they gave American citizens the right to bare arms

Thank you Thomas Jefferson for passing an ammendment allowing me to wear golf shirts and women to wear tank tops, tube tops and halter tops.

[harpseal]

Who knows maybe just maybe she might learn something but I do doubt it.

[Tijeras_Slim]

I think your polite response was wasted, but it shows class all the same.

BTW... What would you recommend as a good "boat gun" for someone sailing in foreign waters? Fellow in my office wants a suggestion and I told him I knew just the guy to ask.

[Myrddin]

I was enjoying my right to bare arms just yesterday. It was 68 degrees outside. Nice after a long, cold winter.

[Shooter 2.5]

Mossberg 500 Marine.

[an amused spectator]

I don't think the "foundering fathers" had satellite communications or the Internet or high-speed printing presses on their minds when they gave American citizens the right to freedom of the press.

Thanks for saving me the trouble of posting this retort.

These liberal boobs & boobettes couldn't reason their way out of a wet paper bag. "Oh, but the First Amendment is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT amendment."

[BadAndy]

Bezerkly was a top notch school that used to require top grades and high SAT scores. Now they accept students who cannot properly use "sale" and "sell" in a sentence. Ain't affirmative action great?

[Centurion2000]

As if the "guns" just hopped down the street by themselves, firing at people with malicious metal minds.

I hate it when that happens

[Sender]

Only someone from the VPC, Brady Center or Berkeley would put forth the ridiculous idea that terrorists in Afghanistan, who can buy all the full-auto weaponry they could ever need dirt cheap from vast local reserves, would actually travel 10,000 miles to buy a semi-auto, thumbhole-stocked, bare-muzzled, grossly-overpriced AK-lookalike copy at a US gun show. Please.

[brooklin]

At the time the 2nd amendment was written, the average citizen could have the same weapon as the army, maybe better if they could afford it.