The Mythical Moderate Muslim

Arutz Sheva ^ | 3.16.04

[kaylar]

Radical Islam : All nonmuslems are to be forcibly converted or killed.

Moderate Islam: Nonmuslems may be allowed to exist so long as they are in the quasislavery state known as dhimmitude.

Secular Islam : Adherents may be nonbelievers in Muhammed , the Koran, or the prospect of an afterlife (which they will not reveal, as to do so would get them killed by either moderate or extremist muslems) but they are fully aware that if the western secular states are overthrown, they'll be part of the Master Class, with all the rights over nonmuslems that sharia grants.

[BayouCoyote]

Bookmarked for future discussions.



BUMP.

[KC_for_Freedom]

The day I see Muslims chasing terrorists and terrorist sympathizers out of their Mosques will be the day I believe that. At present, it sure seems like those who aren't actively attacking us are certainly coddling those who do.

My sentiments too, and based on a radio interview with the author of "The Trouble with Muslims", so would she. She is an educated woman who will be targeted for death for her views. She basically criticises those muslims in the West who have the freedom to question the radicals in their faith but do not because they do not want to cross the "literalists". She said that prior to the eleventh century there was a tradition in Islam of questioning the sacred text and that the radicals taking the mainstream has shut down this tradition. Basically muslims are held silent by fear.

The thought that literal Islam believes they must destroy western civilization in the name of their religion means that western civilization would be justified in destroying Islam. Unless people like this author make themselves heard, (and she will not sway many muslims, because she is a woman), a far wider slaughter will be necessary.

[Kakaze]

BTTP

[Travis McGee]

Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.

[DannyTN]

I'm still trying to figure out who gave the virgins in islamic heaven black eyes?

[rageaholic]

Or look at it this way, when Jews go extreme they go to Israel and grow oranges on a Kibbutz, when Christians go extreme, they go to Pennyslvania and forsake modern technology to bake yummy pies. When muslims go extreme, they blow themselves up in order to murder innocent people. Nah, islam isn't a religion its a death cult.

[fatidic]

What do the Mansons and Jones have to do with Christianity, Judaism, or any religion for that matter? Why bring them up in this discussion where they obviously do not belong?

[Shryke]

Look! There it is!! (The legendary moderate Muslim)

What, behind the rabbit?

It IS the rabbit.

[philosofy123]

Therefore, the only practical question regarding Afghanistan is why did the United States have to waste lives of its soldiers and tens of billions of dollars in order to replace one bunch of Muslim extremists with another? It might have been worthwhile had it improved our security at home, but, as we know, that didn't happen. Therefore, we have to conclude that the United States has once again won a battle but lost the war. The same will inevitably happen in Iraq.

King Pyrrhus of Epirus in the year 280 BC said after a bloody battle "one more such a victory, and we are ruined". How similar is this leader statement to our current war in Afghanistan, and Iraq.

I was hoping after the Talibans have been thrown out that women would dump their burka. It did not happened, simply because the population itself is a worsless stupid, fanatic bunch. We tend to think that yes, if you would like to beat your wife and require her to walk under a tent, that is OK. THAT IS NEVER OK! Shame on us!

[RipSawyer]

"For a guy with a charisma of a dead horse, his worst enemy isn't President Bush, its his own aversion to the truth."

We must rouse the dreaded "Holy Rollers" to roll all over Islam.

[RipSawyer]

"Religion of peace? Who's worried about Penticostal suicide bombers or rabbis weilding box-cutters?"

We must rouse the dreaded "Holy Rollers" to roll all over Islam.

This probably makes more sense when I paste in your comment in quotes instead of replying to someone else's comment as I did in number 31. Sorry.

[Defiant]

The only good Muslim is not a good Muslim.

[Robert_Paulson2]

A moderate Muslim says, "I am your friend", then tries to kill you, or if he can afford it, pays an extremist to kill you.

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...on the money.

[Robert_Paulson2]

A moderate Muslim says, "I am your friend", then tries to kill you, or if he can afford it, pays an extremist to kill you.

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...on the money.

[GeekDejure]

There ARE moderate Muslims. They are the ones who just don't give a good god damn about their silly religion. These folks are soon to be stamped out of existence. Islam is rising and we will not stop it untill we treat it like the nazism of the second world war.

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AMERICA WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STOP THE BLEEDING

The LORD has never allowed a society to promote homosexuality or abortion without bringing His judgment - ours is no different: America is even now under the judgment of the LORD. America will not be able to stop the bleeding; foreign armies will occupy this land. "Behold, they are already among you, and you see them not."!!! America has refused the LORD’S grace, now America must accept His judgment:

1. Innocent blood was spilled on the land; the land is now defiled.
2. The blood of over 40 million babies has been shed in this land.
3. The sin has reached unto the throne of the Holy One.
4. Judgment is now upon the land; it will tarry no longer.
5. The blood of the offender has to be appeased.
6. America constantly rejects the LORD’S grace. Therefore,
America will now have to accept His judgment !!!

[NewRomeTacitus]

Sorry about that, I was mistakingly responding to the subquote you led with. There are too many fanatics of every stripe loose. Look at that nut out in Fresno. Over the edge and down the abyss.

One more good reason to keep the .223's zeroed in.

[NewRomeTacitus]

"For a guy with a charisma of a dead horse"

I thought you had me pegged ;^)

[blackbart.223]

"What do the Mansons and Jones have to do with Christianity, Judaism, or any religion for that matter? Why bring them up in this discussion where they obviously do not belong?"

I belive the disscusion on this thread is about religious fanatics, in this case Muslims. But if you think Charles Manson and Jim Jones were not religious fanatics you need to educate yourself. Manson, in an indirect way, claimed to be the second coming of Jesus. As for Jones, he was the leader of The Peoples Temple.

Now, do you get it?

[fatidic]

Manson and Jones made up their own "religions" and were not representing any organized religion. I thought the subject was the myth of moderate Islam and that a comparison of fundamentalists of any religion clearly demonstrates that fundamentalist Muslims are quick to shed blood per instructions from the Koran, while fundamentalist Jews and Christians are not so inclined per instructions from the Bible. It seems to muddy the discussion to bring in psycho cult leaders who made up their own rules/religions unless you are comparing them to Mohammed who did just that.