[Solamente]

[SheLion]

But you cannot say it says something it does not say.

Amen.

[Agnes Heep]

... men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

"Receiving in themselves that recompence of their error." Sounds a lot like HIV.

[twntaipan]

Kerry knows absolutely nothing about the Bible---and even less about Mississippi.

[teletech]

There are NO fence riders in God's Kingdom! No such thing as accepting God half way!

[familyofman]

"What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

Let's void all divorces. Or, we could stone the adulterers just like in days gone by. We may even have to incorporate teachings from the Koran, Hinduism, and other religions - since we are a melting pot.

[King Black Robe]

The definition revolutionists would have us believe that the great sin of Sodom was poor hospitality. hahahahaha! Oh yes, that's such a menacing thing in contrast to all other sins that God had to completely destroy Sodom.

I really think conservatives should get into the redefinition business too. Hmmmm....think of the laws we could ignore or create with this new progressive method.

[stainlessbanner]

ping em

[stranger and pilgrim]

Yes. Homosexuality is a sin. So is judging. So is hatred. Anything we do that we know is wrong is a sin. So, the question for us is do we concentrate on the sins of others and, in doing so, become a sinner ourselves by our hatred and judging evil spirit? Or do we find a way to love the sinner, recognizing that the soul that sins is in need of God's holy spirit?

Yes. Homosexuality is a sin. Holy hatred of the evil spirit thoughts that produce homosexuality is fine. But hatred of the homosexual, the sinning soul, is not.

We all need to be really careful where we let our own thoughts lead us. Our very lives are at stake.

[chatham]

There are Millions of Homosexuals who have died because of aids and if that doesn't make a statement that Homosexuality is not the right way to go then nothing will.

[MissAmericanPie]

Ps 22:15
My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

Ps 22:16
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

Strongs Concordance "dogs" 3611: to yelp, or else to attack. A euphemism meaning a male prostitute.

This section of scripture from Psalms 22 recording the thoughts of Christ on the cross, clearly reveal that the nature of homosexuality has not changed in centuries, nor it's desire to mock decency.

[aruanan]

The Bible and Homosexuality

There's no doubt in what it actually says on the topic; same for adultery, fornication (of any variety), murder, slander, etc.; even calling a Christian who doesn't provide for his family worse than an unbeliever. It's just that if A wants B and C says he cannot have it and A wants some aspect of C to make his life more palatable, then A has to come up with reasons to nullify C's injunction against B. Some of the more popular ones are:

1. Denial--C really doesn't say that at all.

2. Reinterpretation--C doesn't really mean that at all; the words were mis-translated.

3. Contextualization--C means that only in that particular sitz em leben, the Mosaic Law, but we as Christians aren't under that law but under grace where there is neither male or female and, so, it doesn't apply to us.

4. Redaction--these things said by C about B were obviously added by later editors or copyists in an attempt to justify some measure of control they were trying to impose on the religious establishment of their time and, so, we are justified in disposing of them so we can get back to the original text (this method was a favorite of Jefferson)

Strangely, though, the "original text" in 4. looks just like what they had set out to find in order for them to attempt to control the religious establishment of the present day.

[CatoRenasci]

Perhaps Kerry's thinking of some recent, feminist-gay-lesbian-transgendered person sponsored translation of the Bible that has removed any gender-specific language and replaced it with the feminine or gender neutral language. As a Roman Catholic, of course, Kerry has probably never read the Authorized Version (King James) translation once so universal among Protestants. More likely, he was taught from the Douay translation based on St. Jerome's Latin Vulgate and reads the more recent Jerusalem Bible.

[trebb]

Some try to twist the special friendship between David and Jonathan into a perversion instead of allowing that men can have love for men without being perverts.

[GulliverSwift]

Sounds like Ketchup Boy has been attending the Howard Brush Dean School of Theology.

[EdReform]

Ping

What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda

Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)

The Stamp of Normality

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping - Hmmm, there's clauses in the Bible that "go both ways" - ????

I guess he means that some places in the Bible say that people who perform same sex sodomy should be killed, and other places don't say they should be killed.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

[joesnuffy]

Then, in the New Testament, Paul writes in Romans 1:22-27:

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

"Vile Affections" are a curse...upon those who have changed the word of God into a lie....who worship the creature more than the creator...(not just instead of the Creator...)

Homosexuality is a "Vile Affection"...and a curse from God...who has given them over to reprobate minds...which of course the homosexuals are trying to argue are "normal affections" Their goal is not to have the curse lifted from their lives...but to change the moral constitution of a nation...to turn it upside down and backwards in order to rationalize justify and normalize the "Vile Affections" God has cursed them with...

They want God to change His nature...and since He wont....they want to change society make it over in their own image...and man as well....

[LiteKeeper]

AMEN!!!

[scripter]

Collection of links on homosexuality and the Bible