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Homosexual "love crimes" pose 50,000% higher risk of violence than "hate crimes"
American Family Association [Michigan] ^ | 15 March 2001 | Gary Glenn

Posted on 02/27/2004 12:26:56 PM PST by 45Auto

If homosexual activists are serious about protecting individuals involved in homosexual behavior from violence, they should stop wasting the Legislature's time on so-called "hate crime" legislation and focus instead on the dramatically higher threat of violence such individuals face at the hands of their own homosexual lovers, a statewide family values group Thursday said in a statement to a domestic violence task force chaired by Lt. Gov. Dick Posthumus.

The American Family Association of Michigan, in a statement delivered Thursday to the task force during its hearing at Saginaw Valley State University, said data from law enforcement agencies and homosexual activists themselves indicates that the risk of domestic violence at the hands of their own homosexual sex partners is a staggering 50,000 percent greater for individuals involved in homosexual behavior than the risk of being attacked by someone motivated by disapproval of such behavior.

"Homosexual activists are right now making the outrageous demand that state law be amended to punish a criminal who assaults a pregnant mother, or a small child, or a senior citizen less severely than someone who attacks a grown man, solely because the grown man chooses to have sex with other men," AFA-Michigan President Gary Glenn said.

"Such demands are politically calculated to win public sympathy by portraying individuals who engage in homosexual behavior as 'victims' of outside aggression, when the far, far greater threat is the epidemic of domestic violence individuals involved in homosexual behavior commit against each other."

"When the threat of violent 'love crimes' homosexuals commit against each other is 50,000 percent greater than the risk of so-called 'hate crimes,' which is more deserving of the public's attention," Glenn asked, "and how seriously should we take homosexual activists who feign alarm about the one while ignoring or covering up the astronomically greater threat?"

Researchers find domestic violence among individuals involved in homosexual behavior is at least double that of male-female relationships, he said, which "in addition to the severe threat of serious disease and premature death resulting from homosexual behavior, is yet another reason a truly compassionate society should discourage rather than encourage and enable such a self-destructive and violent lifestyle." [LINK]

Glenn cited so-called "hate crimes" statistics released Feb. 13th by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. According to the FBI, there were only 1,317 so-called "hate crime" incidents nationwide in 1999 allegedly motivated by the offender's disapproval of homosexual behavior. [LINK]

The number of incidents of violence committed by individuals involved in such behavior against their own homosexual partners is astronomical by comparison, Glenn said.

Compared to only 1,317 so-called "hate crimes" in 1999, as many as 650,000 men alone (not counting women) are each year victims of domestic violence at the hands of their own homosexual sex partners, according to two prominent homosexual activists and researchers in San Francisco, he said.

Homosexual activists David Island and Patrick Letellier -- both of San Francisco and co-editors of the National Gay and Lesbian Domestic Violence Network Newsletter -- write in their book, Men Who Beat the Men Who Love Them, that domestic violence is a primary health problem for individuals involved in homosexual behavior ranking behind only AIDS for males, cancer for females, and drug abuse for both.

Island and Letellier write: "The probability of violence occurring in a gay couple is mathematically double the probability of that in a heterosexual couple...we believe as many as 650,000 gay men may be victims of domestic violence each year in the United States." (Page 14)

(Note: 650,000 estimated incidents of homosexual domestic violence per year among males alone in the U.S. is 494 times greater -- posing a 49,400 percent higher risk of actual violence -- than the 1,317 "hate crime" incidents reported for one year in the U.S. by the FBI. The increased risk is actually much higher, however, since the 650,000 figure includes men only and does not include however many thousands of women in the U.S. involved in homosexual behavior are victims each year of domestic violence at the hands of their own sex partners.)

Island and Letellier also estimate "domestic violence may affect and poison as many as 50 percent of gay male couples (page 12), while "we believe [heterosexual domestic abuse] is closer to 20 percent." (page 50).

The Medical Institute for Sexual Health also reported in 1999 that "domestic violence is at least as common and probably more common among homosexuals than among heterosexuals."

Thus, compared to the rare but always highly publicized attacks by outside assailants against individuals who engage in homosexual behavior, the far greater threat -- 50,000 percent more likely -- is the rarely-reported violence such individuals face at the hands of their own homosexual sex partners, Glenn said.

The New York Times reported just that last year in a Nov. 6th article, in which Times reporter John Leland wrote:

"While crimes against gay men and lesbians like the 1998 murder of Matthew Shepard in Wyoming attract more attention in the news, domestic abuse in same-sex relationships is both widespread and severe..., according to a recent report by the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Projects, a network of 24 nonprofit gay and lesbian organizations...The study by the antiviolence projects found that cases of domestic violence among gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people that were reported to member groups rose 23 percent in 1999."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: domesticviolence; gaymarriage; hatecrimes; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; kenyanbornmuzzie; swrdswllwngsdshw
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1 posted on 02/27/2004 12:26:56 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto
If gays want to beat each other to bloody pulps, how is it my concern? After all, it's their 'right'.
2 posted on 02/27/2004 12:28:50 PM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: 45Auto
Hey, posting facts about gays is a hate crime. If it isn't yet, it soon will be.
3 posted on 02/27/2004 12:32:08 PM PST by Always Right
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To: 45Auto
Is it safe to say that the findings of the Domestic Violence Task Force were published Posthumusly?

sorry

4 posted on 02/27/2004 12:35:04 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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To: 45Auto
Compared to only 1,317 so-called "hate crimes" in 1999, as many as 650,000 men alone (not counting women) are each year victims of domestic violence at the hands of their own homosexual sex partners

They're so "gay", and happy, and loving toward each other, aren't they? - NOT!

I don't care if they beat the crap out of each other in their bed rooms. After all, the Texas Sodomy law supports it.

5 posted on 02/27/2004 12:35:56 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: 45Auto
how do they tell the difference between "sex" and a crime? some of the things i've heard they do would be considered a serious crime had it not been done between two (or more) "consenting adults".

Sick freaks.

(BTW, do not call me a homophobe, because i do not fear them)
6 posted on 02/27/2004 12:37:45 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (John Kerry encouraged those who spat on my uncle returning from Viet Nam. Enough said!)
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To: 45Auto
a domestic violence task force chaired by Lt. Gov. Dick Posthumus

What could Dick Posthumus possibly know about love?

7 posted on 02/27/2004 12:37:54 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
At least his last name isn't posterior. Ok, subtlety back on>
8 posted on 02/27/2004 12:42:58 PM PST by steve8714
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To: 45Auto
The vast majority of homosexuals who are murdered are killed by other homosexuals.
9 posted on 02/27/2004 12:44:07 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: 45Auto
They punish themselves and each other because they know what they are.
10 posted on 02/27/2004 12:44:22 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: 45Auto
If a male copse is found with many, many stab wounds or shot by an arrow/skin diving spear, homicide investigators commonly ask if the deceased was a homosexual and where is his lover. Find the lover and 90% of the time the case is solved.

Profiling, yes, commonsense, yes again.
11 posted on 02/27/2004 12:46:34 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: SolutionsOnly
"bloody pulp" I remember my old chief, in forensic pathology training, told me that the worst violence in murders, are seen in homosexual related homcides. This was in regard to a case in which a gentleman noticed a thump-thump-thumping from the upstairs apartment that went on for hours, until a red stain began to seep through the ceiling. The police came and found that one homosexual had murdered another homosexual and then spent the next FIVE HOURS stomping the corpse into a mush.
12 posted on 02/27/2004 12:48:22 PM PST by drjoe
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To: 45Auto
Wonder how many serial killers are homosexuals trying to cover their homosexuality by killing, dismembering, and burying their victims in the manner of Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy?
13 posted on 02/27/2004 12:53:35 PM PST by N. Theknow (John Kerry is nothing more than Ted Kennedy without a dead girl in the car.)
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To: drjoe
that brute! :-)

I'm not too surprised, sick as that is. The homeosexual world seems to get pretty twisted, pretty quickly. Call me what you will, it's not normal - Any 'gay pride' parade is testimony to that.
14 posted on 02/27/2004 12:57:15 PM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: 45Auto
"the risk of domestic violence at the hands of their own homosexual sex partners is a staggering 50,000 percent greater for individuals involved in homosexual behavior than the risk of being attacked by someone motivated by disapproval of such behavior."

Well, that gives them four choices:

1. Get out of the relationship and find someone else.
2. Stop living that lifestyle.
3. Stay in the relationship and defend themselves.
4. Stay in the relationship and deal with it.
15 posted on 02/27/2004 1:03:40 PM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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To: N. Theknow
Wonder how many serial killers are homosexuals trying to cover their homosexuality by killing, dismembering, and burying their victims in the manner of Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy?

Seriously. Cannibalism seems to be the new homosexual "fad" these days.
Because their prey would be hunted via the Internet, the killers would be hard to track down.

17 posted on 02/27/2004 1:10:03 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: 45Auto
hrmn... some of my opponents in debate elswhere are going to absolutely shriek when I dump this on them.
18 posted on 02/27/2004 1:26:38 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: SolutionsOnly
ayyuh.
19 posted on 02/27/2004 1:27:43 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: steve8714
actually, it is worse than it would have been had it been "posterior"

"posthumus" means "after burial" you know.
20 posted on 02/27/2004 1:29:34 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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