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Vietnam Veteran Challenges Kerry To Come Clean [Great List Of Kerry's Phony Sources]
A Collection Of Thoughts ^ | May 25, 2003 | Larry O'Daniel

Posted on 02/24/2004 4:11:09 PM PST by Hon

Viet Vet charges urges Kerry to come clean

Vietnam Veteran Larry J. O'Daniel has today challenged former fellow officer and veteran, John Forbes Kerry to come clean with charges Kerry has made in the past. O'Daniel, a decorated combat veteran from Vietnam and Phoenix says that the issue is one that the Senator himself has brought on.

Senator John Forbes Kerry is attempting to be our generation's Vietnam War hero, much the same way his avowed idol, John F. Kennedy was of that generation. Kerry falls short in many ways. I do not deny his heroism under fire. His Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Hearts all attest to that. Attempting to ride into the White House on those medals alone is not enough. As a former officer who served as a combat advisor and participant in a Special Operations program, I know a little bit about integrity, courage, and character. Kerry lacks what it takes to be Commander in Chief.

Kerry would be an extreme embarrassment to his party if nominated for President. On the surface, he seems to be the exact type of rival needed to run against a popular President with a military background, albeit not in combat. A popular President who proved his courage jockeying supersonic aircraft. On the surface, Kerry would seem to be able to cut into the military vote that has become increasingly one party over the past 30 years.

This senator is JFK from Massachusetts, a coincidence that he has played upon for years. Like the first JFK, he is a heroic Naval Officer. However, he has a record which speaks volumes about his current abilities and views. Kerry will both exploit his war record and run from it. His checkerboard past explains his actions today. He has been critical of the way the current war on terrorism has been waged. Inevitably, his criticism is always preceded by media notices of Kerry, decorated Vietnam war veteran. However, thirty two years ago, Kerry charged decorated war veterans with unspeakable crimes. Those charges were never proven accurate.

Before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April 1971, Kerry asserted he represented veterans, honorably discharged and very highly decorated, who participated in war crimes. These crimes were not isolated incidents, he charged, but crimes committed on a day - to - day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command. Crimes that this country made them do.

These veterans personally raped women, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned on the power. They cut off limbs; blew up bodies; randomly shot at civilians; razed villages like Ghenghis Khan; shot livestock for fun; poisoned food; and ravaged the Vietnamese countryside. From his personal experience, Kerry asserted that the Vietnamese only wanted to work in rice paddies without our helicopters strafing and napalming them and their villages. Our men died while our allies refused to help and fight. Kerry said we rationalized destroying villages in order to save them; accepted a My Lai; enforced free fire zones by shooting anything that moves. Our GIs falsified body counts while leaders glorified body counts. In a well orchestrated political move, he asked, how do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? The well scrubbed veteran began his career that day.

A problem arises. Kerry's testimony was largely untrue. These charges were investigated then and since. My challenge as we honor veterans of that war and others - Prove them or apologize.

Kerry's widely covered charges largely paralleled that of another highly decorated veteran, LTC Anthony Herbert. Some of the unsubstantiated and uncorroborated accusations of Kerry were almost identical to specific charges leveled by Herbert. Both charged war crimes were ignored, uninvestigated, part of the routine.

Kerry relied upon phonies and wannabes for support. His prominence has allowed current phonies and wannabes to continue the unsubstantiated allegations made all those years ago and which Kerry appears to condone even today. For example:



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; 71; congress; crimes; fakeveterans; heart; john; kerrey; kerry; larry; lies; odaniel; phoenix; phonyvets; proof; pseudohero; purple; robert; vetwannabes; vietnam; vvaw; war; warcriminal
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To: Hon
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21 posted on 02/24/2004 5:55:17 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: MEG33
Thanks for the FYI!
22 posted on 02/24/2004 6:28:24 PM PST by secretagent
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To: secretagent
For later.

L

23 posted on 02/24/2004 6:33:31 PM PST by Lurker (Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
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To: Baynative; maica; Travis McGee
If Kerry (now)says he didn't participate in war crimes and didn't cover it up as an officer in service, then he DID lie before congress. SO, the retort to every answer he gives should ALWAYS be: Were you lying then or are you lying now?

bump

24 posted on 02/24/2004 6:44:59 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: LowOiL
Wouldn't 'Kerry Vietnam' in a title search be good enough?
25 posted on 02/24/2004 8:17:26 PM PST by maica (World Peace starts with W)
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To: Hon
Frank Dux: He charged many recognizable Vietnam vets with using techniques bordering on war crimes. Dux was a fraud and non Vietnam Veteran.

Is that the "Bloodsport" Frank Dux?

26 posted on 02/24/2004 8:20:18 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: Hon
No, I don't think so .. I don't remember seeing this guy's name before.
27 posted on 02/24/2004 9:24:12 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: maica
Wouldn't 'Kerry Vietnam' in a title search be good enough?

Perhap, perhaps not. I sell a lot of things on Ebay. I know the value of keywords when it comes to consumers looking for products (ie.news). The better the description, the better the search.

Trust me, more is better.

28 posted on 02/25/2004 3:10:31 AM PST by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: secretagent
I met this guy, he was temp assigned to NAS Atlanta prior to discharge (in early 69). I remember him as "jim", said he was a Seal and had helped found VVAW.
We didn't see eye to eye.
29 posted on 02/25/2004 3:30:01 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
NAS?

"We didn't see eye to eye".

Sounds interesting.

30 posted on 02/25/2004 8:55:11 AM PST by secretagent
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To: Hon
I do not deny his heroism under fire.

First let me preface this by saying I do not wish to denigrate those who were awarded decorations for valor. I have served with America's finest (and also a few "rectal vents").

At the time, the awarding of Bronze Stars and in more isolated cases Silver Stars was almost automatic to any combat officer in any branch. It was an ingrained part of the 1970's "Ticket Punching" process and it was considered character assasination to not recommend a combat officer for an award.

Just recently, some of my fellow airmen were awarded Bronze stars for helping launch B-2 from Whiteman AFB in Missouri during Operation Iraqi Freedom. They were never near a war zone.

I'd like to restate my admiration for those who legitimately received their awards in the crucible of combat. At the same time, I am always suspicious of those who drape the mantle of honor on themselves for public consumption. In my experience, the true heroes wish to remain anonymous.

31 posted on 02/25/2004 9:09:00 AM PST by pfflier
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To: secretagent
Naval Air Station Atlanta, it's part of the Dobbins/Lockheed
base in Marietta Ga.

It's been a long time but I remember meeting him and his
mentioning being a Seal, and helping found VVAW.

Later I was contacted and asked to appear at some kind of
Vietnam War Crimes Tribunal at Georgia State University,
when I replied that the only war crimes I had heard about were VC and NVA regular, they weren't interested.

Looks like he made quite a career out of his activism.

32 posted on 02/25/2004 2:30:33 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Hon; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Thank you for the post Hon.

HLL ping.

33 posted on 03/01/2004 3:39:04 PM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: Hon
NO, Dale Andrade - Ashes to Ashes provides information on Osborn. B.G. Burkett, Stolen Valor provides information on most of the others. I was at Holabird with the two I mentioned. This oversight correction is now on my posting - I sometimes forget that what I know should be identified further. Osborn testified before Congress a couple of times - Phoenix was an incentive for the Winter Soldier Investigation - but I can find no one yet who testified there. However, in 2001, on Meet the Press, Kerry once again named Phoenix specifically as an assassination program and said that soldiers testified to that effect 30 years ago. Some of these guys are more recent wannabes. Hope this clears things up - contact me at larryjodaniel@yahoo.com for more information if you want. I am working on a more specific Kerry information that will get gritty.
34 posted on 03/27/2004 1:18:58 PM PST by larryjodaniel
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To: Interesting Times
Ping to post #34.
35 posted on 03/27/2004 3:03:15 PM PST by KS Flyover
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