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Bush Backs Amendment Banning Gay Marriage [Live Thread 10:45 Statement]
Fox News ^ | 02.24.04

Posted on 02/24/2004 7:15:06 AM PST by Dr. Marten

Bush Backs Amendment Banning Gay Marriage

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; culturewar; fma; gaymirage; genderneutralagenda; gwb2004; homosexual; homosexualagenda; marriage; marriageamendment; prisoners; protectfamily; protectmarriage; romans1; samesexmarriage; westerncivilization
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To: Dr. Marten
Thanks for the ping!

Without having had time to read all the posts, I'm happy to see the President take this stand. This showdown has been on the horizon for a very long time. This insidious movement is not about defining marriage, it is a set up for lawsuits. The first church or temple that declines to perform these "marriage" ceremonies will be sued for discrimination and lose with activist judges.

The religious institution loses its tax exemption, the "injured parties" collect and the secular society, that is not based on any moral foundation or sense of responsibility is codified.


381 posted on 02/24/2004 9:52:49 AM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: txrangerette
LO-L (Sorry)
382 posted on 02/24/2004 9:53:24 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: Dr. Marten
Bush needs some gay people standing next to him on this issue because you know what the left is going to say. "Bush is dividing America..."

Bush should enlist the help of people like Al Rantel and Tammy Bruce. Both gay, both articulate and both against gay marriages.
383 posted on 02/24/2004 9:53:49 AM PST by dmanLA
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To: Dr. Marten
Belated bump


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)

384 posted on 02/24/2004 9:53:52 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
But you inferred that he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do this because it was an election year?

So which is it?

385 posted on 02/24/2004 9:54:37 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Coop
I watch it a lot and with only a few exceptions I see missed opportunities to respond to RAT lies, misleading news stories and far too RAT-friendly stories. I am sick of seeing Bill Richardson and the ex-Clinton ambassadors who are all over their broadcasts. If I want to see RAT lies allowed to stand without challenge I can tune into CNN.

Fox is becoming a huge disappointment. (Bret Hume is an exception.)
386 posted on 02/24/2004 9:54:54 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: k2blader
Here is the text, k2blader.

It was powerful.

387 posted on 02/24/2004 9:55:06 AM PST by ohioWfan ("ANGER IS NOT AN AGENDA FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA")
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To: Dr. Marten
BTTT
388 posted on 02/24/2004 9:57:06 AM PST by GrandMoM (....for the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart {Matthew 12:34})
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To: philetus
That's a good question. What *is* "up" with it?
389 posted on 02/24/2004 9:57:26 AM PST by zook
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The intent of the 14th was good. The wording, however, allowed the federal government to leak into pretty much anything they want to (even more than the "elastic commerce clause", a much easier problem to solve).

Witness the application of the 1st Amendment to entities other than Congress, with catastrophic results. Courtesy of the 14th Amendment as interpreted by the USSC. That was not the intent of the 14th, but now it is the foundation for all sorts of mischief. And much more to come.

390 posted on 02/24/2004 9:57:48 AM PST by Imal (Misunderstanding of the Constitution is poor grounds for amending it.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I have been reading your comments on this topic. Are you on the reelection committee for Marilyn Musgrave? Or are you angry about the republican's stand on homosexual marriage?
I don't understand what specifically you are so angry about.

391 posted on 02/24/2004 9:58:02 AM PST by tuckrdout (Terri Schindler (Schiavo) deserves to have her wishes honored: Give her a DIVORCE!)
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To: Miss Marple
Any delays in bringing it up for a vote, a la Tom Daschle, is going to cost the democrats dearly in the fall.

Daschle is up for re-election and is facing a nasty fight to save his own seat. He cannot possibly dealy, avoid, obstruct or filibuster any such vote, or he faces political inhilation at home.

392 posted on 02/24/2004 9:58:52 AM PST by mwl1
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To: Imal
Others are blinded by partisan politics. A constitutional amendment would take time, money and would cause INCREASED partisanship. If Bush would simply STAND UP, and say what is so obvious, that gays are not discriminated against. They can marry the person of their choice, of the opposite sex, just like straights. If they want to change the laws, let them spend the money, the time and political capital to do so. Enforce the laws of the land, that is what the President needs to do. He is passing the buck on this, to a process that will start during his term, and end somewhere in the distant future. By then I am sure, thousands of gays will have married, and public opinion will have changed.
393 posted on 02/24/2004 9:59:48 AM PST by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
The only thing people have said to me about this is to agree with me-- that it is politically expedient to do what he is doing when he is doing it.

But, because of your insufferable cynicism, you think Bush is as self-aggrandizing as you.

He's not. Bush is doing this to protect marriage.

Combover-Bob Smith for Senate.

394 posted on 02/24/2004 9:59:50 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: commish
are you a moron?
395 posted on 02/24/2004 10:00:23 AM PST by petercooper (America - where your problems aren't your fault, they're someone else's.)
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To: Imal
"The problem here is not marriage, or gays or any of that, it's the way in which the federal government is running roughshod over the states and the people."

How do you propose we restore the proper balance of power between the federal and state governments now, which clearly is out of control and only going to become worse?

396 posted on 02/24/2004 10:00:30 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Dr. Marten
Ha-Ha! The Democrats have a real problem is seems. Who are they going to dump on?

Homosexuals or Blue-Collar Union Christian Families?

397 posted on 02/24/2004 10:01:14 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Miss Marple
Folks, the timing was superb. Bear in mind that Bush has just made both Kerry and Edwards go on the record with this issue prior to Super Tuesday.
398 posted on 02/24/2004 10:02:02 AM PST by mwl1
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To: kinghorse
We've had our fill of the homosexual diversity jamboree. Hear that Will and Grace?

Hell! What about all those home improvement shows that have nothing but QUEER designers!! From the pit of hell!! Imagine that, QUEERS telling us how to dress, how to fashion our homes...IT MAKES ME SICK!! They are forcing themselves down our throats whether we like it or not...with the help of the QUEER MEDIA LIBERAL WHORES of course!!!!
399 posted on 02/24/2004 10:03:10 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: k2blader
"This is the most important issue of this election cycle, and probably the most important issue since the Civil War."

This issue may well CAUSE another civil war!
400 posted on 02/24/2004 10:03:23 AM PST by tuckrdout (Terri Schindler (Schiavo) deserves to have her wishes honored: Give her a DIVORCE!)
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