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Kerry Denies Quotes Accusing U.S. Soliders of War Crimes
Newsmax.com ^ | 2/21/04 | newsmax.com

Posted on 02/21/2004 6:45:10 AM PST by thesummerwind

In a stark about-face, Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry is now denying that he ever accused U.S. soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam, despite amply documented comments - some televised, others delivered while under oath - where he did exactly that.

Asked on Thursday whether he had accused his fellow soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam during his April 1971 testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Kerry told CNN's Judy Woodruff:

"No, I was accusing American leaders of abandoning the troops. And if you read what I said, it is very clearly an indictment of leadership. I said to the Senate, where is the leadership of our country? And it's the leaders who are responsible, not the soldiers. I never said that."

However, a transcript of Kerry's April 22, 1971 testimony contains accusations that his brother-soldiers committed all manner of atrocities; charges he based on interviews of returning Vietnam vets earlier that year at the Winter Soldier Investigation, an event Kerry organized with anti-American actress Jane Fonda.

Kerry told the Senate that Winter Soldier witnesses "testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command."

Speaking under oath, Kerry continued:

"They told stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires with portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

A few days before his Senate testimony, Kerry gave the following account on NBC's "Meet the Press":

"There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages."

The future presidential candidate added:

"All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down."

Appearing on "The Dick Cavett Show" in July 1971, Kerry admitted that he'd never actually seen some of the atrocities he testified about, but still maintained that U.S. soldiers fighting in Vietnam routinely violated the Nuremberg Principles.

"I personally didn't see personal atrocities in the sense I saw somebody cut a head off or something like that," he told Cavett. "However, I did take part in free-fire zones, I did take part in harassment and interdiction fire, I did take part in search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were burned to the ground."

Kerry continued:

"And all of these acts, I find out later on, are contrary to the Hague and Geneva conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense, anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the application of the Nuremberg Principles, is in fact guilty."

CNN's Woodruff declined to confront Kerry with his previous comments accusing his brother soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; denial; denies; flipflop; hanoijohnny; kerry; lies; quotes; soldier; testimony; vietgate; warcrimes; warcriminal; wintersoldier; witnesses
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To: thesummerwind
Half of America - the blue areas - will still vote for him if he's the lib-dem candidate. That's the saddest part of all. I mourn for my country...
21 posted on 02/21/2004 7:11:51 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (Dogs have masters; Cats have staff...)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Which facts in the article are you contesting?

None. Why?

22 posted on 02/21/2004 7:12:19 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor
It's always disappointing to find a nice juicy headline, then to discover it's from Newsmax.com.

Read the article. I know what you're saying though. The biggest problem that Newsmax has with 'truth in reporting' is the way they write headlines. I have noticed that for a long time, their headlines sometimes exaggerate.

But, the truth is in the article.

23 posted on 02/21/2004 7:13:48 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
Can't wait for this political show to get on the road between horseface & W. No way he can run from his own words and deeds.
24 posted on 02/21/2004 7:13:54 AM PST by demkicker
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To: angkor
Vote for John Fonda the anti American candidate.
25 posted on 02/21/2004 7:15:09 AM PST by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: dc-zoo
He's busted IF he said this ( denying that he ever accused U.S. soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam) to Judy Limp/Dem/Liberal/Sycophant Woodruff.

Here comes Hillary.

26 posted on 02/21/2004 7:16:26 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
EEL

Kerry. Eel. Eel, Kerry.

27 posted on 02/21/2004 7:17:29 AM PST by Leisler (Whatever it is you're doing, it's illegal now.)
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To: thesummerwind
He said it. There is plenty of written, spoken, and videotaped documentation.
28 posted on 02/21/2004 7:20:23 AM PST by dc-zoo
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To: thesummerwind
Damn that Congressional Record! ;o)
29 posted on 02/21/2004 7:27:31 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Hugh Hewitt has played the audio of Kerry's senate testimony. He said it.
30 posted on 02/21/2004 7:28:46 AM PST by gogipper (Judgement at Nuerenburg ...... Judgement at Baghdad)
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To: thesummerwind
But, the truth is in the article.

I guess what I mean is that Newsmax.com is not exactly "mainstream", and sometimes their reporting is sloppy.

Also they send too much junkmail.

31 posted on 02/21/2004 7:30:26 AM PST by angkor
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To: thesummerwind
"And of course Judy Woodruff did not contest his words."

You didn't need to add this part, it is assumed because for her to have done otherwise would have made the news in and of itself.

32 posted on 02/21/2004 7:31:42 AM PST by SW6906
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To: Kozy
Vote for John Fonda the anti American candidate.

Huh?

33 posted on 02/21/2004 7:31:43 AM PST by angkor
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To: Kozy
Vets Not Fonda Kerry ....... make the bumper/window stickers in your home towns. Put 'em in your windows.
34 posted on 02/21/2004 7:35:05 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
I'm too young to have served in Vietnam. Can you tell me what exactly a "free-fire zone" is and what makes it a crime? I would assume any part of the battlefield in a war is a "free-fire zone".
35 posted on 02/21/2004 7:35:34 AM PST by SW6906
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To: thesummerwind
Well, America is at war, and we can't afford to risk the sort of psuedo-leadership Kerry offers.

He condemns himself with his own words.

36 posted on 02/21/2004 7:36:01 AM PST by backhoe (Has that Clinton "legacy" made you feel safer yet?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Kerry is a lying flip flopping commie.

And, not to be small ;), he's got the skinny arms of a eight year old girl. What a dweeb!

37 posted on 02/21/2004 7:37:45 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
I think you missed the point. I have the same reaction too when I see what looks like a "juicy" headline. I keep hoping that when I open the article, it will be from some major news outlet. If it's posted from a major news outlet, then the story might have legs. It's not that I don't trust what Newsmax is saying, it's just that seeing a topic on Newsmax is a long way from seeing it on the evening news where 99% of the public (who haven't even heard of Newsmax) might see it also.
38 posted on 02/21/2004 7:38:09 AM PST by wsack
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To: thesummerwind
I didn't say that, and if I did say it I didn't mean it, and it depends on what your definitions of rape and murder are.
39 posted on 02/21/2004 7:38:43 AM PST by jimfree ("Never did no wanderin' after all.")
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To: wsack
Ditto your post #38!
40 posted on 02/21/2004 7:41:27 AM PST by SW6906
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