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Kerry's Denials at Odds With 1971 Book He Authored [Kerry denies calling vets war criminals]
Cybercast News Service ^ | February 20, 2004 | Marc Morano

Posted on 02/20/2004 5:26:39 PM PST by Jackson Brown

Kerry's Denials at Odds With 1971 Book He Authored By Marc Morano CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer February 20, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has denied ever accusing American troops of committing war crimes in Vietnam. But his remarks during an interview on CNN Thursday are at odds with the excerpts of a book Kerry authored in 1971, a copy of which CNSNews.com obtained this week.

The New Soldier, which is currently so difficult to find that it was selling on the Internet for about $850, featured the following passage by Kerry about his experiences in Vietnam. "We were sent to Vietnam to kill Communism. But we found instead that we were killing women and children."

In the book, Kerry stated that Vietnamese citizens "didn't even know the difference between communism and democracy" and he instead blamed the United States for causing chaos in Vietnam.

"In the process we created a nation of refugees, bomb craters, amputees, orphans, widows, and prostitutes, and we gave new meaning to the words of the Roman historian Tacitus: 'Where they made a desert they called it peace,'" Kerry explained.

But when asked by CNN anchor Judy Woodruff on Thursday about allegations that he had accused "American troops of war crimes," Kerry issued a denial.

"No, I was accusing American leaders of abandoning the troops. And if you read what I said, it is very clearly an indictment of leadership. I said to the Senate, where is the leadership of our country? And it's the leaders who are responsible, not the soldiers. I never said that. I've always fought for the soldiers," he said.

Kerry was referring to his testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April of 1971 as part of his involvement with the anti-war group Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

But The New Soldier reveals Kerry's direct criticism of American soldiers, including charges that they committed atrocities against the Vietnamese while on patrol.

In the book, Kerry said he "saw Vietnam ravaged equally by American bombs and search-and-destroy missions, as well as by Viet Cong terrorism..." He added that his combat duty in Vietnam irrevocably transformed his outlook on the military.

"Because of all that I saw in Vietnam, the treatment of civilians, the ravaging of their countryside, the needless, useless deaths, the deception and duplicity of our policy, I changed," Kerry wrote.

The cover of the book displays long-haired, bearded men carrying an upside down American flag in an apparent mockery of the famous planting of the American flag on Iwo Jima during World War II.

Kerry's former brother-in-law and current campaign adviser, David Thorne and documentary maker George Butler were credited with editing the book.

A defiant Kerry told CNN's Woodruff that he did not regret his anti-war activism, but also shifted the conversation to his activities on behalf of veterans many years after his own service in Vietnam, his anti-war activities and the publication of his 1971 book.

"In fact, not only did we oppose the war, but we proudly stood up and fought for the additions to the G.I. Bill so that vets would be able to use it. We fought for the V.A. Hospitals. I wrote the Agent Orange legislation with Tom Daschle. I helped with the post-Vietnam stress syndrome outreach centers," Kerry said.

"...The fact is if we want to re-debate the war on Vietnam in 2004, I'm ready for that. It was a mistake, and I'm proud of having stood up and shared with America my perceptions of what was happening," Kerry added.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; kerry; kerryrecord; thenewsoldier; veterans; vietgate; vietnam; vietnamveterans; vvaw
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To: LowCountryJoe
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Radio Free Vietnam =

http://www.rfvn.com
(Rally Photos)

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41 posted on 02/20/2004 7:21:46 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Jackson Brown; Squantos
I was in the middle of my workout this morning, running on the treadmill, flipping through the FM stations on my MP3 player, when what do I hear coming through the headphones?

Why it's John Kerry's voice From 25 some odd years ago testifying before congress saying if Calley is a war criminal then everybody in a position of leadership was a war criminal because, among other reasons, we had our recruits doing four count squats and shouting Kill on count 4 and we had posters in out barracks with the phrase "kill all gooks", etc. etc..

And this was on NPR.

If NPR can dig up audio of him saying we were war criminals than how come CNNCBSNBCABC and all the other pukes can't do it?
42 posted on 02/20/2004 7:28:15 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ( I went to the gun show today and saw an Sharpton for President sticker on a truck. Seriously dude.)
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To: Jackson Brown
Kerry's so far ahead of Edwards at this point he'll get the nomination no matter what. He has the dempcrap base locked up. They don't care about his anti-war escapades.
43 posted on 02/20/2004 7:29:29 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: commish
See my post 42 for confirmation of your comment.
44 posted on 02/20/2004 7:42:44 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ( I went to the gun show today and saw an Sharpton for President sticker on a truck. Seriously dude.)
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To: Jackson Brown
Has Kerry visited a Navy base or ship, recently?
If so, how was he received?
45 posted on 02/20/2004 8:08:35 PM PST by greasepaint
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To: Jackson Brown
Has Kerry visited a Navy base or ship, recently?
If so, how was he received?
46 posted on 02/20/2004 8:08:37 PM PST by greasepaint
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To: All
Bump
47 posted on 02/20/2004 8:17:07 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: Jackson Brown
*BUMP*!
48 posted on 02/20/2004 8:39:42 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Jackson Brown
Kerry and the Democrats wanted to make Vietnam a center issue of the campaign by portraying Kerry as the war hero, but to their great misfortune, this issue of Vietnam will destroy John Kerry. People will know his dark anti Vietnam war record and they will deeply detest him for betraying his fellow soldiers.
49 posted on 02/20/2004 8:41:10 PM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas
BUMP
50 posted on 02/20/2004 8:46:50 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: commish
(exerpt)

"...Sherman notes Kerry's work with Vietnam Veterans against the War. He writes: "Mr. Kerry became a leader in the VVAW and even testified before Congress on the findings of the [VVAW Winter Soldier] Investigation, which he accepted at face value. In his book 'Stolen Valor,' B.G. Burkett points out that Mr. Kerry liberally used phony veterans to testify to atrocities they could not possibly have committed. Mr. Kerry later threw what he represented as his awards at the Capitol in protest. But as the war diminished as a political issue, he left the VVAW, which was a bit too radical for his political future, and was ultimately elected to the Senate. After his awards were seen framed on his office wall, he claimed to have thrown away someone else's medals--so now he can reclaim his gallantry in Vietnam."

(Kerry)

WINTER SOLDIER INVESTIGATION
I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.... They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country. We call this investigation the "Winter Soldier Investigation." The term "Winter Soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.

It was later proved these stories were out and out lies from VVAW who were not even there or veterans. Congress appeared to buy to lies just to appease a divided America; divided because of people like John Kerry. Mr. Kerry, you cannot have it both ways - this is what duplicitous people get - the gong!

51 posted on 02/20/2004 9:09:48 PM PST by yoe (WMD come in small containers/vials...small minds don't want you to know that.)
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To: Jackson Brown
... I've always fought for the soldiers," he said......and when your anti-war testimony and writing is linked with statements from former POW's about how your efforts were used to shatter their hope and morale, and with statements from former NVN leaders about how your efforts encouraged them to keep fighting and killing those soldiers you claim to have been fighting for - maybe then you'll finally understand what you really accomplished, though of course you still won't be man enough to acknowledge it to the American people......
52 posted on 02/20/2004 9:19:19 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ
All it will take to destroy Kerry is a televised interview with a former 'Nam POW who saw fellow POWs tortured or killed while Jane Kerry and John Fonda were aiding and abetting the enemy.
53 posted on 02/20/2004 9:50:18 PM PST by freebilly
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To: big ern
LOL.........You have a MP3 player ?...........Kewl !

Gotta be real careful we don't get kerried away this fall Ern .... !

Stay Safe !
54 posted on 02/20/2004 9:57:59 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: PhiKapMom
"That's all that came out of his mouths for weeks and then DNC and the RAT Trolls went after Pres Bush for his ANG Duty."

The McAwful man was on FNC this evening spouting the same ole garbage. Even when he was confronted with Kerry's admonition to stop it, he said they will continue.

I say, "Bring it on!!!"

55 posted on 02/20/2004 11:18:10 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: Jackson Brown
JFK supports the U.N.
He would clearly be in support of allowing U.S. citizens to be tried for war crimes. There is no statute of limitations for war crimes.
Then the predicament arises that by signing such an act, Kerry would subject numerous Vets, including himself, to imprisonment by the U.N. - BASED ON HIS OWN TESTIMONY.
56 posted on 02/20/2004 11:24:18 PM PST by Treeless Branch
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To: Jackson Brown; All
Cross-link:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--

57 posted on 02/21/2004 12:06:54 AM PST by backhoe (Has that Clinton "legacy" made you feel safer yet?)
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To: LowCountryJoe
In the Washington Monument picture, look above and slightly to the right of the guy in the wheelchair. The guy without the shirt on, could it be Jan Michael Vincent after starring in Tribes?

Possibly, but the *Dewey Canyon II* Demonstrations in Washington weren't until April, 1971, in response to the then-ongoing *Dewey Canyon II* incursion into Laos. Jan Michael Vincent's made-for-TV anti-war/USMC production Tribes [with Darren McGavin as the Marine Drill Instructor] aired in the US on 10 November 1970.

That's a long time to go without a shirt, even for Janny-Mike.

58 posted on 02/21/2004 4:40:15 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: Jackson Brown
bump
59 posted on 02/21/2004 4:42:30 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Squantos
LOL.........You have a MP3 player ?...........Kewl !

Gotta be real careful we don't get kerried away this fall Ern .... !

Stay Safe !

Oh, Squantos... Have I got the accessory for you...:

Company sells AK47 Magazine MP3 Players

Posted 2/14/2004 from Ananova printer friendly version

"A British-based company is selling MP3 players which can be attached to an assault rifle.

The 'AK-MP3' player is built into the ammunition clip of a Kalashnikov. It can be swapped with the real magazine carrying bullets and inserted into the weapon.

The device is being advertised on the internet by a Buckinghamshire-based company set up by a group of Russian businessmen.

It comes with enough storage space to hold 9,000 songs. Former Russian rock star Andrey Koltakov, a partner in the dotcom company offering the AK-MP3 for sale, said: 'This is our bit for world peace - hopefully, from now on many militants and terrorists will use their AK-47s to listen to music and audio books.'

The accessory costs just over 200 pounds. According to those marketing it the stainless steel body makes it 'uniquely suitable for outdoors'."

You can read the complete story at: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_863993.html?menu=news.quirkies.

60 posted on 02/21/2004 4:45:33 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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