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US Trade Envoy Defends Bill To Curb Outsourcing Of Jobs
Dow Jones ^ | 2-16-04 | Shumita Sharma

Posted on 02/19/2004 7:45:23 PM PST by JustPiper

NEW DELHI -(Dow Jones)- Defending a recent U.S. Senate bill to stem the outsourcing of jobs overseas, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick Monday said India must open its markets further if it wants Washington to do the same.

"If India wants to have the ability to outsource and sell goods to the U.S., India will also have to open up," Zoellick said at a press briefing.

Zoellick's visit to New Delhi is part of his global tour to get countries back on the World Trade Organization (news - web sites)'s negotiating table for freer trade.

Indian industry and government officials view a bill passed by the U.S. Senate in January that prohibits government contractors from subcontracting work to overseas companies as being protectionist.

The bill has raised fears that it could lead to more of such protectionist measures.

Zoellick pointed out that India's average tariffs are three times higher than the U.S., which runs a $9 billion trade deficit with New Delhi.

"It reflects the sensitivity of the issue and reflects the fact that we have to make trade a two-way street," he said. "If we are to have expansion of global trade in agriculture, services or industry, we must have it for all."

WTO talks on freer trade have been in disarray since negotiations broke down in September. Developing nations, led by India and Brazil, have been pressing rich countries to stop giving billions of dollars in subsidies to their farmers, while the U.S. and E.U. want developing countries to cut tariffs, especially in the farm sector.

Outsourcing of jobs could potentially become another hurdle in advancing trade talks.

Earlier Monday, India's Commerce Minister Arun Jaitley said concerns over the U.S. bill could make it harder for the government in New Delhi to make concessions during any WTO talks.

"For the WTO talks as a whole, an adverse environment has been created in this country since an erstwhile open market is now being closed," Jaitley told reporters after meeting Zoellick.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; corporatesellout; exportingjobs; outsourcing; sellingamerica; trade; zoellick
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We have a Dem running for Fitzgerald's seat in the Illinois Senate that gets this, where many of our conservative's do not. His current radio ad cites all the THOUSANDS of jobs we have lost thanks to exporting them. Our GOP best get on board!
1 posted on 02/19/2004 7:45:23 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: gubamyster; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Let Markets Solve Jobs Issue-Bush Adviser
Tue Feb 17, 6:04 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites)'s top economic adviser, in hot water for remarks about outsourcing jobs abroad, said on Tuesday the government should not hinder foreign competition to protect U.S. employment.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040217/bs_nm/economy_mankiw_dc_1
2 posted on 02/19/2004 7:46:55 PM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: JustPiper
we do export alot of things to India - JOBS.
3 posted on 02/19/2004 7:47:05 PM PST by oceanview
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To: BagCamAddict; ganeshpuri89; pokerbuddy0; cgk; Sabertooth; Donna Lee Nardo; Angelus Errare; ...
This from the big contributor of illegals:

Wal-Mart CEO Sees Job Market Improvement
Thu Feb 19, 2:09 PM ET
By Emily Kaiser

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Democrats may be pummeling President Bush (news - web sites) over job losses, but the chief executive of the world's largest company, Wal-Mart Stores Inc., said on Thursday the jobs situation could soon improve

So 'who' are the jobs for?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040219/bs_nm/retail_walmart_jobs_dc_1
4 posted on 02/19/2004 7:48:59 PM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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An equal opportunity destroyer:

Democrats Can't Get Firm Grip on Jobs Issue
Thu Feb 19, 8:48 AM ET
By Jonathan Weisman, Washington Post Staff Writer

Democratic presidential candidates have made the loss of U.S. jobs to international competition the centerpiece of their campaigns, but even some of the candidates' economic advisers acknowledge that remedies offered -- such as closing tax loopholes on overseas income and offering tax breaks for domestic hiring -- would probably do little to stop the bleeding.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20040219/pl_washpost/a52977_2004feb18
5 posted on 02/19/2004 7:50:28 PM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: oceanview
Yes, the problem with "free" trade is it's a one-way street - everyone else's products coming in. But when we want them to buy our products -- no-can-do. So "free trade" isn't free. In fact, it isn't even trade. "Trade" assume back and forth -- which this isn't. Then there's the question of whether an American earning $17 an hour should compete with an Asian earning $1 an hour. The day will come, and it's not too far off, when our lowered wage rates and reduced employment will not sustain a market here.
6 posted on 02/19/2004 8:02:26 PM PST by henderson field
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To: henderson field; JustPiper
Too true, H.F.

Jobs (sources of wealth) allowed to leak away for the enrichment of short-term profiteers, billions of dollars permanently removed from our economy by remunerative illegals, the illegals themselves forcing down wages and removing incentives for innovation while perpetuating corruption. Billions more lost due to unreported wages and society made to shoulder the costs of services.

The center can not hold and occasional tax breaks will not bandage the hemorrhaging. Protectionism is not evil, it is necessary when we're getting hosed from all sides.
7 posted on 02/19/2004 9:03:20 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (wants Centurions on the Frontier.)
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To: JustPiper
U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick Monday said India must open its markets further

Tell me Robert, when their highest paid people made $5-7 an hour what on earth they are going to buy from us? Oh I get it: more stuff from China.
8 posted on 02/19/2004 9:38:29 PM PST by lelio
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To: henderson field
Also notice with the problems with the Pennslyvania chicken farms, over 70,000 of them slaughtered, I think we are at 13 countries anxious to ban it, which is having a very silent impact on the economy already and Russia made a big todo over banning it recently.
10 posted on 02/20/2004 1:52:46 AM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: NewRomeTacitus; lelio; oceanview; henderson field; TexKat; MamaDearest; All
I am posting some companies that have outsourced {{ Lou Dobbs has collected appox 300 names }}, please contact them and let them know you don't want their product if they cannot hire American but 'use' American tax breaks! Also as you complain, ask them for a job, or do they have 'any' workforce in the United States! Get mad people, get busy!

3M:

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CONTACT

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CONTACT

Adobe Systems-

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Diversity at Adobe - Learn how Adobe is expanding and strengthening the diversity of its workforce.

CONTACT

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11 posted on 02/20/2004 2:17:30 AM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; HiJinx; Sabertooth; All
Advanced Energy Industries-

Our culture encourages innovation, creativity, and the opportunity to work on leading edge technical projects.

CONTACT

Aetna-

Think about not buying insurance through them. If you have it think about cancelling it and letting them know why!

Aetna's long-term commitment to diversity has proven that this focus is not only good for business, it's the right thing to do.

CONTACT

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Yet another company that brags!

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12 posted on 02/20/2004 2:37:32 AM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: chicagolady
Lady, please see if you can get some activists to contact these companies. Read their bio's.
13 posted on 02/20/2004 3:05:22 AM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: henderson field
"Yes, the problem with "free" trade is it's a one-way street - everyone else's products coming in. But when we want them to buy our products -- no-can-do. So "free trade" isn't free. In fact, it isn't even trade. "Trade" assume back and forth -- which this isn't. Then there's the question of whether an American earning $17 an hour should compete with an Asian earning $1 an hour. The day will come, and it's not too far off, when our lowered wage rates and reduced employment will not sustain a market here."

BEFORE you vote to reelect your Senator, copy what you just said and put it on the visor of your car. Show your appreciation for NAFTA with your vote!

14 posted on 02/20/2004 6:17:34 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
"Protectionism is not evil, it is necessary when we're getting hosed from all sides."

We are getting hosed from the inside of the White House. I don't see a change coming up no matter who is in there. Any ideas?

15 posted on 02/20/2004 6:19:46 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: JustPiper
Why beg India to be fair? Triple the tariffs on any goods and services coming out of India. Tax those tech phone calls, too.

The people who have lost jobs to India are still paying taxes and suffereing regulations -- we don't need stuff that cheap at WalMart. Raise the tariffs.

16 posted on 02/20/2004 6:20:17 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: JustPiper
Zoellick pointed out that India's average tariffs are three times higher than the U.S., which runs a $9 billion trade deficit with New Delhi.

Tariffs? India has tariffs yet is getting the best jobs from the USA? Tariffs obviously don't do the damage the so-called free-traders claim.

17 posted on 02/20/2004 6:24:01 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Mamzelle
We should at least match them to what India has --- we can't compete with our tariffs one-third of theirs.
18 posted on 02/20/2004 6:25:38 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ; harpseal
Tariffs? India has tariffs yet is getting the best jobs from the USA? Tariffs obviously don't do the damage the so-called free-traders claim.

Oooo. Good point.

19 posted on 02/20/2004 6:31:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (I believe whatever the last poster tells me.)
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To: JustPiper

20 posted on 02/20/2004 6:32:02 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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