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Guard, sex talk are sideshows -- issues should be center ring (BARF ALERT)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | February 16, 2004 | RICHARD 'DOPEY' ROEPER

Posted on 02/16/2004 10:01:13 AM PST by Chi-townChief

You'd think the political media as well as operatives for the Democratic and Republican parties would have learned two valuable lessons from Bill Clinton's election victories:

1. Sexual high jinks, real or alleged, do not necessarily doom a candidate. In 1992 and in 1996, tens of millions of Americans probably agreed with the GOP assessment of Clinton as a horny, rutting pig -- and yet they voted for him anyway, because they didn't think his sexual habits had that much relevance to his strengths as a world leader.

2. Military history (or the lack thereof) probably won't be the determining factor, either. In World War II, George H. W. Bush won the Distinguished Flying Cross and other medals for his heroics, and Bob Dole was seriously injured in combat in Italy. They risked everything in the name of freedom.

Yet Clinton, who legally avoided the draft, whupped both of them -- not because Clinton voters didn't appreciate the sacrifices made by Bush and Dole in the 1940s, but because they believed Clinton would make a better president in the 1990s.

That was then and this is now, and we've evolved, right? We understand the 2004 election should be about the economy, the war in Iraq, education, providing medical care to the poor and the elderly, etc., etc.? You know, the issues.

Yeah, right.

Internal affairs

Two stories are dominating coverage of the 2004 election: President Bush's mysterious tenure with the National Guard, and Internet-fueled rumors about John Kerry's alleged dalliances.

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, here we go again.

When George W. Bush ran against Al Gore in 2000, there was only fleeting interest in his mysterious stint with the Texas Air National Guard in 1972 and 1973. Maybe that's because the Democrats were fresh off Clinton's back-to-back triumphs over war heroes, and they didn't feel that pounding Dubya on his military record would create a path to victory.

As for the general public: I think most of us believed Bush took advantage of his status to legally avoid combat duty in Vietnam, and that he probably shirked some of his National Guard duties -- and that a lot of other young men did the same thing. When we cast our votes, Bush's military history was not the deciding factor.

Four years later, WE DON'T CARE. Of all the reasons to vote Bush from office, his weaseling out of some of his National Guard duties and his weaseling out of admitting he weaseled out should be about No. 136 on the list.

Still, some Democrat strategists and many in the political press have returned to this story with freshly venomous fangs -- presumably because Kerry is a Vietnam War hero, and the contrast between the two is irresistible. But GOPers are returning the volley by questioning the nature of Kerry's post-service, anti-war activities. Did you see that picture of Kerry with Jane Fonda? OK, so it's a fake, but did you see it? That's borderline treason!

And now they're (Matt) Drudge-ing up rumors about alleged extramarital indiscretions. Within 24 hours of the Drudge Report "exclusive," Kerry was on "Imus in the Morning," claiming, "There is nothing to report," and, "I'm not worried about it. No."

While most mainstream media outlets tiptoed around the rumor and were careful to mention Drudge's right-wing bias, one of the most powerful mainstream media voices of all was virtually clicking his heels with glee.

El Rushbo was in prime form.

Hypocrisy on loan from God

Soon after Drudge posted his supposed scoop, Rush Limbaugh was on the air, gleefully reading the story as if it had been vetted and reported by Time magazine.

Of course, Limbaugh also added his own flavorful asides and innuendos. He repeated some old rumors about Bill Clinton, speculated that the Clintons were behind the allegations about Kerry because they want a clear path for Hillary to the White House in 2008 and told his listeners that the networks didn't want to report the stories about Kerry because he's "their guy."

Limbaugh also said that if Kerry denied the rumor, "that's not going to be good enough. We're going to demand pay stubs, and we're going to demand dental records from Kerry and the alleged woman to prove that the affair never happened, and we're not going to stop there. . . . I'll tell you what, it does not give new meaning to the name John F-ing Kerry, it validates it."

Hilarious. But what happened to the Rush Limbaugh who whined and whimpered about the coverage of his own recent drug scandal? Why is it all right for Limbaugh to run wild with stories about Kerry's personal life, but a mortal sin for the press to dig into Limbaugh's foibles?

Oh, I know. It's because Kerry is running for office, and Limbaugh is just an entertainer. Sure, that justifies it.

Today is the day when we honor our presidents. It's also a good day to ponder the manner in which we elect these individuals.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
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It's a shame the intern story came out when it did and swamped the Hanoi Ketchup stories. And Roeper still hates Rush; he is still really disappointed that neither the hearing or drug problems forced Rush off the air.
1 posted on 02/16/2004 10:01:15 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief
The man sits next to Roger Ebert for a living. What did you expect, common sense?
3 posted on 02/16/2004 10:05:04 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("That's all I'm going to say for now. Quack, quack.")
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To: Chi-townChief
"But GOPers are returning the volley by questioning the nature of Kerry's post-service, anti-war activities. Did you see that picture of Kerry with Jane Fonda? OK, so it's a fake, but did you see it? That's borderline treason!"

Yeah, that one was a fake but not the others, and definitely not Kerry's testimony and lies before the Congress.

Sounds like the left is waking up to the fact that Kerry has skeletons that can be used.

"Don't bring this up and we won't pound on the AWOL (which while getting traction with the media, isn't getting traction with the voters.)

What did Kerry say? "The United States is the criminal in Vietnam. I saw soldiers beheading people, shooting civilians, raping, putting wires on genitals....."

That's what they are trying to quiet down.
4 posted on 02/16/2004 10:07:31 AM PST by OpusatFR (Search Google for your posting name. Get a suprise!)
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To: Chi-townChief
El Rushbo was in prime form.

Hypocrisy on loan from God

I'll make Mr. Roeper a deal.

He can have Rush and Fox News if he gives up ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, NYT, LAT, PI, CT and the Atlanta-Constitution...

5 posted on 02/16/2004 10:12:42 AM PST by 2banana
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To: Chi-townChief
"Hilarious. But what happened to the Rush Limbaugh who whined and whimpered about the coverage of his own recent drug scandal? Why is it all right for Limbaugh to run wild with stories about Kerry's personal life, but a mortal sin for the press to dig into Limbaugh's foibles?"

I think what Rush was pointing out...as he always does, is the hypocrisy of the mainstream media who is more than willing to cover any Republican scandal, while they ignore the Democrat's "foibles." The very fact that Rush Limbaugh...a non-elected official, got so much coverage is testament to that. The arrogance of the media is only exceeded by their ignorance: They are too stupid to even realize that the intern scandal is no longer about Kerry, but about the media's lack of attention to it.
6 posted on 02/16/2004 10:14:00 AM PST by cwb (Kerry may have saved one man but he abandoned thousands of others)
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To: OpusatFR
Yeah...and I'll tell ya' right now: Democrats are the ones doctoring these Kerry/Fonda photos so they can imply that all these photos are fake...when they know they are not. It's the common attorney practice of raising doubt about the credibility of someone (something) and attributing that lack of cedibility to everything else.
7 posted on 02/16/2004 10:19:55 AM PST by cwb (Kerry may have saved one man but he abandoned thousands of others)
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To: Chi-townChief
If today is the day we honor our Presidents, why is this jerk throwing mud at the incumbent President? Congress never voted for a "Presidents' Day" holiday--today is supposed to be a day to honor George Washington, the greatest American President, but for whom we would not have won our independence.
8 posted on 02/16/2004 10:20:09 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Chi-townChief
Kerry is a veteran but is he a hero?
9 posted on 02/16/2004 10:20:47 AM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Roeper needs to stick to movie reviews.
10 posted on 02/16/2004 10:30:18 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: Chi-townChief
The timing on this article sucks. Why didn't it come out before the Kerry affair story. It's a standard liberal move to say, now, that it shouldn't be considered in the election. That's shutting the barn door after the horse runs.
11 posted on 02/16/2004 10:33:46 AM PST by ampat (to)
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To: cwb
Let me also add to Roeper's ignorance in this regard: Why is it that the mainstream media can rely on sources from the National Enquirer (as it did for Rush's story), while they conveniently ignored the Enquirer's expose on John Kerry? What Rush was pointing out...and which Roeper obviously missed, is the double standard and hypocrisy in the media to use "whatever" source it can to diminsh the credibility of a conservative, while ignoring those same sources when it comes to Democrat's foibles.

Again, the fact that the media can't even recognize this bias calls into question "their own" credibility. Chris Lahane, Craig Crawdford, Wesley Clark and the National Enquirer are not conservatives...and yet, we are to believe this is a VRWC because Drudge "reports" on something they've all known? Please.
12 posted on 02/16/2004 10:37:23 AM PST by cwb (Kerry may have saved one man but he abandoned thousands of others)
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To: Chi-townChief
"his strengths as a world leader"

That's as far as I could go in this article... "His strengths as a world leader!" Bill Clinton never "led" anything. He followed the winds of political correctness, the polls, his ashtray-throwing wife's demand, the advice of his attorneys -- never "led." Til the very end of his presidency, he was the antithesis of a leader, except when it came to politics and deception... there I have to give him credit: he was as slippery as a snake and as trustworthy as a weasel.

13 posted on 02/16/2004 10:50:49 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: ReleaseTheHounds; Pukin Dog
Man, I can't even listen to talk radio this week! Hillary is laughing her big fat fanny off. She and her cronies hatched this scheme a few weeks ago to seize the issue and make it dominate the news. It's a brilliant strategy!

Hillary asked, "where is Bush strongest?" Then she answered, "With the military. How can we get the conversation to be about his military deficiencies rather than his strengths?" And voila! The press are eating it up, yum, yum, George W. Bush for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
14 posted on 02/16/2004 10:57:04 AM PST by The Westerner
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To: Chi-townChief
I still think Kerry's actions after vietnam WILL be an issue.

Patriotic, non-socialistic citizens, DO CARE about the hanoi jane stuff. Kerry is rotten to the core. He's a democrat of the worst kind.

After the dims think we've forgotton that kerry aided and abetted the enemy, we need to bring it up again.

15 posted on 02/16/2004 11:18:43 AM PST by Iron Matron (Give me time, I'll think of something)
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To: cwb
Why is it all right for Limbaugh to run wild with stories about Kerry's personal life, but a mortal sin for the press to dig into Limbaugh's foibles?"


Because Rush is not running for the office of President.

We all desire a man of far greater character for president than Kerry - or ANY democrat can be.
16 posted on 02/16/2004 11:20:35 AM PST by Iron Matron (Give me time, I'll think of something)
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To: Chi-townChief
What qualifies a movie critic to write idiotorials?

1. Sexual high jinks, real or alleged, do not necessarily doom a candidate. In 1992 and in 1996, tens of millions of Americans probably agreed with the GOP assessment of Clinton as a horny, rutting pig -- and yet they voted for him anyway, because they didn't think his sexual habits had that much relevance to his strengths as a world leader.

Actually it wasn't a dismissal of regard for the charges. There was a disbelief. He said he didn't have sex with all these women and his supporters believed him. He never did get 50% of the vote and he got fewer physical votes than George W. Bush. Bill Clinton's fans believed that he did not have sex with Monica right up to the moment that he admitted it himself. Don't try to revise history.

17 posted on 02/16/2004 12:49:36 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Vietnam Vets for John Kerry!

18 posted on 02/16/2004 12:54:10 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Chi-townChief
2. Military history (or the lack thereof) probably won't be the determining factor, either. In World War II, George H. W. Bush won the Distinguished Flying Cross and other medals for his heroics, and Bob Dole was seriously injured in combat in Italy. They risked everything in the name of freedom.

Yet Clinton, who legally avoided the draft, whupped both of them -- not because Clinton voters didn't appreciate the sacrifices made by Bush and Dole in the 1940s, but because they believed Clinton would make a better president in the 1990s.

Again, not hardly. Anybody But Clinton won both the 1992 and 1996 elections. The problem was they couldn't agree if they should vote for Ross Perot (who ran twice) or President Bush or Bob Dole.

Bill Clinton played both sides of the military issue saying he wanted to serve but didn't get called. He also had a letter that said he "loathed the military".

He spun the situation to say "it's the economy stupid" when actually the economy wasn't as bad as the DNC was saying (the recovery was already under way). The media echoed the DNC talking points.

Bill Clinton also claimed that his lack of foreign policy experience would not matter because he said the President should be focused on domestic concerns. President Clinton is now remembered for his foreign policy actions much more than his domestic agenda successes.

19 posted on 02/16/2004 12:54:36 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: Chi-townChief
As for the general public: I think most of us believed Bush took advantage of his status to legally avoid combat duty in Vietnam, and that he probably shirked some of his National Guard duties -- and that a lot of other young men did the same thing. When we cast our votes, Bush's military history was not the deciding factor.

Four years later, WE DON'T CARE. Of all the reasons to vote Bush from office, his weaseling out of some of his National Guard duties and his weaseling out of admitting he weaseled out should be about No. 136 on the list.

Such a cunning liar. President Bush DID NOT weasel out of his duties in the National Guard. Stop propagating DNC lies, Richard.

20 posted on 02/16/2004 12:56:32 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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