Fascism at Berkeley-Muslim Student Association out in full force to disrupt Daniel Pipes' lecture

Chronwatch.com ^ | February 16, 2004 | Cinnamon Stillwell

[2banana]

The fact is, radical Muslim students and their leftist counterparts are the most domineering, destructive, and dangerous forces in higher education today.

I disagree - they are just acting like any average muslim in any average islamic country

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam

Egypt -Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

ETC

[Rummyfan]

By this time he got down to basics, calling Pipes ''a racist Jew.''

Another sterling example of the logic of the left. When presented with facts the responses range from 'racist!' to 'Zionist!' to finally 'racist Jew!'. How eloquent! Oh yeah, God bless Daniel Pipes!

[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

[uncbob]

Yep
I remember back in the early 60s when the Free Speech movement originated in Berkely

[evad]

Sad as it is and as badly as I feel for Pipes, I wouldn't have it any other way.

We need these fanatical vermin to act like they really are so we can constantly be reminded of what happened on 9/11.

9/11 should have been a wake up call to 'Americans' but we seem to want to nod back off to sleep.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

If we’re to win the War on Terrorism, we may have to start with our own college campuses.

It was the same during the Vietnam era.

The rising cost of tuitions may actually be a good thing.

It might keep more young people away from the indoctination of liberal campuses and redirect them towards technical schools.

[hometoroost]

Here's a nice little budget cut for Govenor Schwartzenegger. Take Cal Berkeley's funding away.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"When Pipes brought up the need to support moderate Muslims over those who subscribe to militant Islam, they booed."

Sound familiar?

[johnny7]

It amazes me on how readily the professors and their flock get behind the anti-zionist, muslim causes on the college campus's. Remember in Canada when Netenyahu's speaking appearance caused a riot?

Free speach is not a right unless it is anti-Israeli or anti-American. Rational discussion is not required when your opponent is devising ways to render you impotent.

[Luis Gonzalez]

The vast majority of the Muslim world resides outside those countries, to argue that the "average" Muslim is an aggregate of the militant Muslim, which is what you just tried doing, is promoting the ideas that militant Islam wants you to promote.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

I remember back in the early 60s when the Free Speech movement originated in Berkely

Like so many other leftist pronouncements, "free speech" is a sham.

It was merely a hype to make anti-American speech more acceptable.

Sort of like the "peoples republic" of China or the "democratic republic" of East Germany.

More accurate descriptive titles might include, The Chinese communist kingdom of Mao or the "best of nazism" replay of East Germany.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Note the countries you listed, note the "Muslim world":

You think so?

Country	Population	Percentage of Muslims	Muslim Population
Indonesia	231,328,092	88.0%	203,568,721
Pakistan	147,663,429	97.0%	143,233,526
India	1,045,845,226	12.0%	125,501,427
Bangladesh	133,376,684	83.0%	110,702,648
Turkey	67,308,928	99.8%	67,174,310
Egypt	70,712,345	94.0%	66,469,604
Iran	66,622,704	99.0%	65,956,477
Nigeria	129,934,911	50.0%	64,967,456
Ehtiopia	67,673,031	47.5%	32,144,690
Morocco	31,167,783	98.7%	30,762,602

[headsonpikes]

We need these fanatical vermin to act like they really are...

Exactly! Luckily, the scum rarely disappoint.

[Paul_B]

Indeed, this article must reach Arnie's desk. Californians?

[2banana]

The vast majority of the Muslim world resides outside those countries, to argue that the "average" Muslim is an aggregate of the militant Muslim, which is what you just tried doing, is promoting the ideas that militant Islam wants you to promote.

You mean the counties that muslims live in but have not (yet) intalled an islamic form of government? Just let me know an islamic country (or even a country that has a majority of muslims) that has anything close to something like freedom and liberty. I'll wait.

You might want to try Turkey although they BAN islamic groups from running or holding political office...

[Luis Gonzalez]

Turkey for one.

India another.

Indonesia another.

Philippines another.

You are falling into the extremist mentality.

[tkathy]

Money for murder is murder. Saying nothing when your religion is murdering worldwide is the same as murder. Muslims would do themselves a big favor by rising up in outrage against the Arab-Islamic nihilism.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I know Turkey is a bad example, after all, at least .2% of the population are not Muslims.

[yankeedame]

Another sterling example of the logic of the left. When presented with facts the responses range from 'racist!' to 'Zionist!' to finally 'racist Jew!'. How eloquent!

Well, when you can't pound the facts pound the table.
(Old legal trick.)