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1 posted on 02/16/2004 5:56:49 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
The fact is, radical Muslim students and their leftist counterparts are the most domineering, destructive, and dangerous forces in higher education today.

I disagree - they are just acting like any average muslim in any average islamic country

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam

Egypt -Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

ETC

2 posted on 02/16/2004 6:00:46 AM PST by 2banana
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To: SJackson
By this time he got down to basics, calling Pipes ''a racist Jew.''

Another sterling example of the logic of the left. When presented with facts the responses range from 'racist!' to 'Zionist!' to finally 'racist Jew!'. How eloquent! Oh yeah, God bless Daniel Pipes!
3 posted on 02/16/2004 6:03:56 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
4 posted on 02/16/2004 6:10:28 AM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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Yep
I remember back in the early 60s when the Free Speech movement originated in Berkely
5 posted on 02/16/2004 6:11:06 AM PST by uncbob
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To: SJackson
Sad as it is and as badly as I feel for Pipes, I wouldn't have it any other way.

We need these fanatical vermin to act like they really are so we can constantly be reminded of what happened on 9/11.

9/11 should have been a wake up call to 'Americans' but we seem to want to nod back off to sleep.

6 posted on 02/16/2004 6:11:47 AM PST by evad ("You cannot divorce yourself from your record.")
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To: SJackson
If we’re to win the War on Terrorism, we may have to start with our own college campuses.

It was the same during the Vietnam era.

The rising cost of tuitions may actually be a good thing.

It might keep more young people away from the indoctination of liberal campuses and redirect them towards technical schools.

7 posted on 02/16/2004 6:11:47 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: SJackson
Here's a nice little budget cut for Govenor Schwartzenegger. Take Cal Berkeley's funding away.
8 posted on 02/16/2004 6:12:51 AM PST by hometoroost
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To: nuconvert
"When Pipes brought up the need to support moderate Muslims over those who subscribe to militant Islam, they booed."

Sound familiar?

9 posted on 02/16/2004 6:15:16 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: SJackson
It amazes me on how readily the professors and their flock get behind the anti-zionist, muslim causes on the college campus's. Remember in Canada when Netenyahu's speaking appearance caused a riot?

Free speach is not a right unless it is anti-Israeli or anti-American. Rational discussion is not required when your opponent is devising ways to render you impotent.

10 posted on 02/16/2004 6:18:15 AM PST by johnny7 (“C'mon! You sons 'o bitches wanna live forever!?”)
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After the lecture, many Jews in the audience were visibly shaken.

I don't have data to support it, but my guess is that most of them will still vote for Rats when given the chance. This is one thing I don't understand about American Jews. They overwhelmingly support Rat candidates, who are more in sympathy with their would-be Islamic murderers than most Republican candidates.

22 posted on 02/16/2004 6:52:31 AM PST by chimera
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"If reaction to Daniel Pipes’ lecture on Tuesday (2/10) was any indication, fascism is alive and well at UC Berkeley""

Well, DuH

"ironically, the home of ''free speech'' and ''tolerance'' has shown itself to be distinctly intolerant to those who express political views other than their own."

Another big DUH

I'm not reacting to the writer, but to the left who are blind to this hypocrisy. Or pretend to be.
26 posted on 02/16/2004 6:59:58 AM PST by nuconvert ("Progress was all right. Only it went on too long.")
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To: SJackson

A group of Nazis hold hands on the steps of the University of Vienna in an attempt to prevent Jews from entering the building. The action led to a day of student rioting which had to be suppressed by the police.

27 posted on 02/16/2004 7:10:02 AM PST by Alouette (I chose to NOT have an abortion -- 9 times.)
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To: SJackson
At least we know how Mulsims behave in a democracy...cant imagine them maintaining either a democracy or a republic of their own for very long...

They seem to have difficulty with freedom (or seeing others free)..lacking an internal locus of control ...they must impose external ones on each other and everyone around them...(naturally the elite have a different set of rules for themselves)..

On the other hand...they might make acceptable neocons...
29 posted on 02/16/2004 7:19:42 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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Another nut-job hovered near the entrance shouting to anyone who would listen about how Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. ''were against Zionism.''

Nice post!

And that's the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.

51 posted on 02/16/2004 8:21:36 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SJackson
No islam, no terror.
57 posted on 02/16/2004 10:21:05 AM PST by tubavil
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BACKGROUNDER ON THE TERRORIST MUSLIM STUDENTS ASSOCIATION

No islam, no terror.


http://www.academia.org/index.html



The Muslim Student Association: Coming In Peace?

by Malcolm A. Kline

February 6, 2004 - If you have seen signs for the Muslim Student Association on college campuses and wondered who they are, where they came from and whether they exist on student fees alone, you are not alone. Federal investigators are curious too.

The Senate Finance Committee is investigating non-profit groups to determine whether those organizations might be a source of funding for terrorist activities. Among the groups that the Committee wants Internal Revenue Service records on: the Muslim Student Association (MSA), active on campuses throughout the United States.

"Many of these groups not only enjoy tax-exempt status, but their reputations as charities and foundations often allow them to escape scrutiny, making it easier to hide and move their funds to other groups and individuals who threaten our national security," Senators Chuck Grassley and Max Baucus pointed out in their letter to the IRS.

"Often these groups are nothing more than shell companies for the same small group of people, moving funds from one charity to the next charity to hide the trail," the senators write. "These groups also receive donations from foreign sources, including countries the government has identified as having a significant problem with terrorism."

On some campuses, notably the University of Virginia until about eight years ago, the MSA is virtually the only religious group that school officials will recognize. On other campuses, even without exclusive recognition, the MSA makes its presence felt.

In late January, according to our UCLA correspondent, the MSA held its annual Islamic Awareness Week on that campus. In all, the MSA claims chapters on 138 campuses nationwide.

Nor is this the first time the MSA has come up in a federal investigation. Last February, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents arrested Sami Omar al-Hussayen, a computer science major from the University of Idaho at Moscow. The U.S. Justice Department indictment charged Hussayen with visa fraud and the transfer of large amounts of cash from Iraq to the Islamic Assembly of North America (IANA). Hussayen was head of his university's MSA, according to The Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

The U.S. indictment also connects Hussayen with a tacit endorsement of suicide bombers posted on a web site that he registered. Hussayen, the indictment charges, registered the site exactly one year before the September 11 attacks. The posting, which appeared in June 2001, about three months before the fateful hijackings, was entitled "Provision of Suicide Operations."

Written by a radical Saudi sheikh, the posting read, "the Mujahid must kill himself if he knows that this will lead to killing a great number of the enemies, and that he will not be able to kill them without killing himself first, or demolishing a center vital to the enemy or its military force, and so on."

"This is not possible except by involving the human element in the operation. In this new era, this can be accomplished with the modern means of bombing or bringing down an airplane on an important location that will cause the enemy great losses."

The national MSA protested the Bush Administration's decision, shortly after the September 11 attacks on the United States, to freeze the assets of groups that federal investigators linked to the Palestinian Hamas faction that took a benign view of the hijackings.

"American Muslims support President Bush's effort to cut off funding for terrorism and we call for a peaceful resolution to the Middle East conflict," the groups, including the MSA, insisted in their petition to the Bush Administration. The MSA claims credit, in turn, for the founding of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA).

Terrorism expert Steven Emerson reports that, "In September 2002, a full year after the 9/11 attacks, speakers at ISNA's annual conference still refused to acknowledge Bin Laden's role in the terrorist attacks." Emerson, a former congressional staffer and television reporter, became immersed in the study of terrorism soon after the Oklahoma City bombings in the mid-1990s which he covered for CNN.

The MSA in turn links up to other organizations that are tacitly radical. For example, MSA events frequently feature speakers from the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY). Emerson told a congressional committee that "WAMY's U.S. office was incorporated in Falls Church, Virginia in 1992 by Osama bin Laden's brother, Abdullah bin Laden."

Another terrorism expert, Stephen Schwartz, told Congress that the form of Islam that governs such groups is Wahabism, the official sect in Saudi Arabia. "Shia and other non-Wahabi Muslim community leaders estimate that 80 percent of American mosques are under Wahabi control," Schwarz testified.

Schwartz, director of the Islam and Democracy Program for the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, explained exactly what this meant. "Wahabi control over mosques means control of property, buildings, appointment of imams, content of preaching-including faxing of Friday sermons from Riyadh, Saudi, Arabia-and of literature distributed in mosques and mosque bookstores, notices on bulletin boards, and organizational solicitation," Schwartz said.

"Similar influence extends to prison and military chaplaincies, Islamic elementary and secondary schools (academies), college campus activity, endowment of academic chairs and programs in Middle East (Studies), and most notoriously, charities ostensibly helping Muslims abroad, many of which have been linked to or designated as sponsors of terrorism."

Malcolm A. Kline is the executive director of Accuracy in Academia.
68 posted on 02/16/2004 4:52:19 PM PST by tubavil
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To: SJackson
Why is this not national news? If a band of protesters had shouted down a speaker from CAIR, it would be all over TV the next day, amidst much handwringing and analysis. But no, this gets silence instead from the 'mainstream' media.

I see all kinds of media reports about how the movie 'The Passion' might incite anti-semitism, and virtually zero coverage of real anti-semitism taking place right under their noses.
85 posted on 02/16/2004 9:36:36 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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An absolutely frightening story!
90 posted on 02/17/2004 5:54:07 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: SJackson
It's very clear just how hollow the leftists calls for diversity and tolerance are. These radical Muslims were allowed to harass and intimidate Jewish students and a guest speaker with impunity.

Clearly Berkeley doesn't seek to quell intolerance, only the intolerance it disapproves of.

117 posted on 02/18/2004 6:53:19 AM PST by tdadams
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