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What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda
self | February 11, 2004 | little jeremiah

Posted on 02/11/2004 9:00:13 PM PST by little jeremiah

What We Can Do To Defeat The "Gay" Agenda

Dear Fellow Freepers,

The following informal essay has two parts, the first consisting of ideas of what individuals or small groups can do to help thwart, roll back, defeat and otherwise throw a monkey wrench into the onslaught of the "gay" agenda and their stated goal to destroy the moral fabric of society. I am hoping that discussion will ensue, with theoretical ideas as well as accomplished plans. Information and knowledge are the key. Since most people just watch TV and read the establishment media, which are lapdogs of the "gay" elite, they just do not know the truth about homosexuality.

The second part is my analysis of the root cause of the homosexual movement, going a bit deeper than environment and molestation. It is "religious" or "spiritual" in aspect, so anyone who wishes to avoid that type of discussion can avoid it! This analysis is germane to the cure, not only of the homosexual agenda, but the untrammeled hedonism and libertinism of which homosexuality is the poster child.

[Note: I am not attempting to recap the immediate causes of homosexuality, or prove that it is not inborn, or give evidence as to why same sex acts are abnormal, unhealthy, or immoral, or to prove that homosexuals can change. FR already has hundreds of archived articles of this nature.]

Part One: Ideas on Promoting the Truth about Homosexuality

A friend of ours homeschools her children, so as to protect them from the horrible influence of public schools, instill her personal moral values, and give them the best education possible. She knew that homosexuality was unhealthy, immoral, and unnatural, but until I gave her books and booklets I purchased from Scott Lively's website (www.abidingtruth.com) she was not able to articulate her viewpoint. After studying the materials I provided, she became a one-woman task force, gave her elderly father books to read, and shared the books with the charter/homeschool teacher. The teacher, who also had not been very well-informed, had her mind blown (so to speak) and ordered more materials for herself, and placed a link to Lively's website on her personal website. Lively has a number of very informative booklets that can be purchased in bulk cheap, and they are great for distributing. So because I informed one friend, many others have been informed. This particular charter school is all for homeschooled children, and there are about 500 families involved.

By purchasing Lively's materials (or reprints from other groups such as NAARTH and the Family Research Council) and making them available at your church, synagogue or other house of worship, many people can become informed. Materials can be purchased and mailed or given to pastors at other churches, or any organization or club that you belong to.

I have found that if I talk to people in the line at the grocery store, or the cashier, often people are happy to find that others have the same viewpoint, but they are afraid to admit that they think same sex acts to be unhealthy or wrong. Just by speaking up in public, we can encourage others to think for themselves, and not be intimidated by social pressure.

Of course, letters can be written to newspapers (they've never printed one of mine!), legislators, and media people. We could try calling up local talk radio shows to tell the truth or attend school board meetings to protest the homosexual infiltration of the schools. Of course, by doing any of these things we will be "outing" ourselves as homophobes ;-) but that's the risk one takes by speaking the truth.

And then there are guerilla tactics: print up some fact sheets about the nature of and diseases spread by homosexual acts, statistics about molestation rates, etc - make them colorful and readable, and broadcast them about town. Laudromats, bulletin boards in stores, public facilities, rest stops, community college or other educational institutions, any place you can find. Good places would be where there is a lot of foot traffic, especially where high school kids can see them. High schools kids are really being targeted by homosexual activists, so the more they can see the truth, the better.

Another post-it tactic: make or obtain stickers with the names and phone numbers of organizations that help people overcome homosexuality, and stick them near high schools, colleges, downtowns, and so on. You never know whose life might change because of one phone call. Or, place ads in the classified ads section of local newspapers or weekly magazines with the same information.

Other promotional ideas are bumper stickers (make you own, or maybe someone knows where to order pro-family stickers). Ideas for slogans: Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve; Marriage=One Man+One Woman; Children Need a Mother and Father, Not Two of a Kind; Same Sex Acts Are Not Healthy For Living Things; Want to get AIDS? Be Gay!; Don't confuse "Exit" with "Entry"; Don't Mess With Marriage; "Gay" Sex Isn't Gay…. These could also be signs in car windows, yard signs, signs held at rallies.

Protest at "Gay Pride" Parades. If protesting at such public events, wear protective clothing and go in groups, carry antiseptic handwipes and have a camera and maybe tape recorder. No telling what might ensue. Here's an idea that someone freepmailed to me, and it sounds good:

"I have an idea I'd like to pass your way. I suggest that we get permits to set up tables in front of (or near) our respective churches/synagogues along the local "Pride" parade routes this coming June, with literature about reparative therapy. Each table should also have someone there to document all the juvenile insults and threats thrown our way on a videocam, and send copies of the films to the local tv news to include as part of their coverage."

These are just a few ideas. Let's hear yours!

Part Two: The Root Cause of Homosexuality

Everyone needs happiness, love and pleasure. These needs stem directly from the soul, and get interpreted through the body - think of how many people eat because they are lonely, depressed, or in anxiety. A healthy balanced person will eat when hungry, and when in need of companionship will turn to a relative, friend, or even pet for company. The need for love is really paramount, a deeper need than the bodily requirements. What hurts more, a broken heart, or a hungry stomach? Our culture has denied the fact - basic to all religions (probably a few exceptions, but this is not the debate here) - that human beings even have souls, what to speak of the needs of the soul. In fact, the accepted "scientifically based" theory is that humans are just machines, made of chemicals, evolved by accident, and the "self" doesn’t even really exist. In an atmosphere of such impersonal nihilism, it is natural that many people will be easily convinced that real love, real happiness, real heart to heart connection, don't exist.

What can take its place? Instant pleasure. Shopping. Drug and alcohol abuse. Or, most seductive of all, orgasms. And since the sexual organs have no conscience, a wide variety of options is available to people who have been convinced that God doesn't exist, there are no rules - or higher purpose - to life, and instant gratification is the only yardstick to measure happiness with.

There are two kinds of happiness - the kind that comes from the outside - eating, sex, comforts, and the devices or arrangements that facilitate such, as well as more intangible pleasures such as accomplishments, goals achieved, music, arts, learning, and so on. The second kind of happiness comes only from within the heart, and this happiness is our relationship with God. Jesus said that the Kingdom of God is within us, and the same truth is stated in Hindu scriptures (the Vedas) as well. A surrendered soul can experience the loving embrace of God anywhere, any time - if he truly desires and strives for this loving relationship. The experience that God is my best friend, my only refuge, my source of happiness, and indeed, the very foundation for and purpose of my existence - is the only real meaning of religion. Currently, in many religions, the concept that God is a real Person is left out, glossed over, He is described as an amorphous mystery, or that "we are God", or that He is just energy or a force. But according to Jesus, the teachings in the Old Testament, and the teachings of the Vedas, re-establishing a loving relationship with the Supreme Person is the only thing that will fill the emptiness in our hearts. If this knowledge is denied, as in most of our culture, people will seek to fill this void by any means at hand. And if the moral absolutes that are part of God's instructions to humanity are tossed out, then anything goes. If sexual pleasure is the goal of life, and there are no eternal moral truths, then there is no reason to not accept same sex acts, or, for that matter, any kind of sexual activity.

Therefore, the real antidote to the "gay" agenda, as well as the breakdown of civilization it heralds, is the spiritual awakening of many individuals, and the understanding that such an awakening is not only important but essential.


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Okay, class. Raise your hands! Let's hear some more ideas.
1 posted on 02/11/2004 9:00:15 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping!

Finally (I admit it's after dark) I wrote my piece - I hope you can add your ideas to it. Time to get off our duffs (I admit I sit on mine way too much) and DO something!

If anyone has good links to anything of interest, put 'em up.

Later, when we've done some of these plans, those with more money can put up bail.
2 posted on 02/11/2004 9:05:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
A little ridicule goes a long way, too...



If we make it a serious liability to support this, we win.
4 posted on 02/11/2004 9:11:20 PM PST by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment NOW!)
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To: little jeremiah
Folks could start by rescinding their "right" to non-procreative sex and their "right" to have children by artificial means.

Both artificial realities render heterosexual marriage indistinguishable from homosexual marriage.

Marriage being the basis of Family, after all.
5 posted on 02/11/2004 9:37:35 PM PST by Askel5
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To: little jeremiah
I think a coordinated activism would help. If we're watching a show and it's pushing things we just don't want, take note of the sponsors and post them. Let's all write and politely tell them our concern and then boycott those who ignore us. Money talks. If they lose money, they won't support these programs. Without support, the shows go away. It's the only power we have. Let's use it.
6 posted on 02/11/2004 9:50:49 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: Askel5
I agree. Those are examples of what happens when people use the yardstick of instant gratification to measure happiness. I mean, if instant personal gratification is the only measure of happiness, then why stop at man+woman? Why stop at homosexuality? Etc.

The point is, sexual pleasure, no matter what kind, is not the highest pleasure or happiness there is. Gotta look somewhere else.
7 posted on 02/11/2004 10:12:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: Askel5
That just isn't so; when two lesbians decide to live together it because they don't want to live with men and when two men do the same it is for the same reason.

When a man and a woman marry or live together they do so with the acknowledged risk of a pregnancy ensuing and they may not always want to have a child at the time or maybe never but they do not generally marry for the legal benefits alone.

The homosexuals of today want to marry because they want to reorder society, a disease as old as any plague known to mankind; sure there are some legal benefits that would accrue by virtue of the recognition of their marriage but none that can't currently be granted by one party to the other by law absent marriage.

The business of recreational sex is a bit of argumentative nonsense because in marriage sex often becomes a duty rather than fun and every couple can attest to that if they are honest people.

I was on the verge of developing a nascent sympathy for gays who were closeted out of their fear of loathing but this current bunch are but a batch of buttheads and I wouldn't give you a dime for a dollar's worth of them.

8 posted on 02/11/2004 10:18:50 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: little jeremiah
For a different approach to the Gay Power issues, please see the post which I've originally written for a different forum:

I have nothing against the gays. But every time a social idea is suggested I try to examine it from the point of the impact on the society.

Now, I did not do a real analysis in the case of the Gay marriage and I would not do it (mostly because it is not an interesting issue for me); but I did at least look at it.

Lets take just one issue involved: the insurance. Legalization of the Gay Marriage would force the private employers and the government cover gay couples.

It appears that the cost of such insurance would be considerably higher than that for normal marriage. The reason is a very high HIV infection rate within the gay community (Asacr, it is close to 50% in SF). As I recall, the HIV-suppressant drugs cost alone are about 10K/year. This is a large amount.

It is sufficiently large to raise medical costs for everybody (and, if you check, you'll find them skyrocketing already). For the federal government this means bigger budget deficits; but for small/medium companies this means cutting down on insuring straight families.

The impact on society would be quite unpleasant. Some families with children would lose the insurance; some would have to pay more for it. Additionally, small companies would have darn good reasons to discriminate against gays.

The costs of gay healthcare are unproportionally high, insisting on it means trying to get an unproportional share of resources.

Perhaps someone can get better estimates; this is an issue that may affect millions of people.

9 posted on 02/11/2004 10:21:27 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: mvonfr
Add to this the fact that male homosexuals have a very poor rate of monogamous relationships (even so-called long term relationships often have the understanding that there will be outside sex). So even if a couple of homosexuals don't currently have HIV, they may have it down the line, and the drugs cost upwards of $10K.
10 posted on 02/11/2004 10:28:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: Old Professer
=== The homosexuals of today want to marry because they want to reorder society,

They're over a generation behind the heteros who deconstructed both family and marriage over a generation ago by claiming "rights" to the failsafe birth control which precipitated abortion (the lethal assault on the weakest member of the Family) and using "no fault" divorce and "palimony" among other legal conceits to strip them of the freedom to bind themselves.

Among the legal benefits of marriage for homosexuals IS INDEED the "right" to have their own children as they see fit (or can afford ... a third, for-profit party being vital to all homosexual "conception.")

And it was the heteros who etched that "right" in stone for them as well.

I have sympathy for homosexuals ... even those cynical enough to want just what cash they can get for their "domestic partner" (another hetero advance).

They've been deluded by we sexually liberated heteros into thinking the State's some kind of egalitarian god who'll not only dream up whatever we need in the way of rights to make our "marriages" the most selfish of all possible relationships but will ensure that everyone gets an equal shot at bliss in the mutually-beneficial Economic arrangement one has with one's current squeeze in our serial polygamy society.

11 posted on 02/11/2004 10:32:57 PM PST by Askel5
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To: little jeremiah
Yes, sure.

But keep in mind that 10K for drugs is not the full bill. Hospitalizations, opportunistic infections, etc. -- I did not mention these since I cannot estimate them.

I hope that what I wrote can be used. It is certainly non anti-gay and should withstand the usual "bigotry" screams. Perhaps we should try to change the discussion toward the costs to the society and children from the "Gay Marriage" idea.

12 posted on 02/11/2004 10:33:54 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: little jeremiah
=== Add to this the fact that male homosexuals have a very poor rate of monogamous relationships (even so-called long term relationships often have the understanding that there will be outside sex)


How is this different from heteros these days?

As for the monies scammed from insurers to pay for AIDS cocktails, it's just a matter of the pharmas CONTINUING to use homosexuals as the cash cows they infected with Hep-C and AIDS in the first place courtesy of the SAME tainted plasma derivatives that infected 90% of American hemophiliacs as well.

Hemophiliacs are not the "renew-able" resource, however, that are homosexuals. Jocelyn Elders' sorts have no hope of educating a person into the masturbatory, narcissistic sexual model that is most conducive to homosexuality and the increasingly state-regulated "private sex lives" of mock heteros whose financial layout for birth control (and sometimes even abortion) as funded by insurers certainly adds up to -- if not exceeds -- the paltry AIDS cocktails of homosexuals.
13 posted on 02/11/2004 10:37:44 PM PST by Askel5
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To: little jeremiah
By purchasing Lively's materials (or reprints from other groups such as NAARTH

FYI that's "NARTH". http://www.narth.com

14 posted on 02/11/2004 10:39:14 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: little jeremiah
be active on school board elections.

Support the Boy Scouts with money and your votes.
15 posted on 02/11/2004 10:40:46 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Askel5
One thing is that homosexuals are WILDLY promiscuous compared to normal people. Of course figures vary, but the average male homosexual "committed" relationship lasts something like 1.7 years. The average number of sex partners for male homosexuals is huge - 50 was the smallest number I've ever seen, 100s is very common. No way heterosexuals compare to this. Add this to the anonymous sex and bath house scene common to the "gay" life, and it shows that homosexuals are in a class by themselves.
16 posted on 02/11/2004 10:46:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: Askel5
I can tell a pig by its squeal in a pack of dogs but I can't figure out why the dogs don't mind.
17 posted on 02/11/2004 10:49:22 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: mvonfr
It is certainly non anti-gay and should withstand the usual "bigotry" screams.

Your points about costs and insurance are well-founded and logical.

At this point, the truths about the homosexual lifestyle need to be strong, to the point, and unafraid of criticisms of "hater" and "bigot". They've shut us up for too long. Time for US to "come out of the closet"!

Kids need to be saved. They don't care about insurance figures.

18 posted on 02/11/2004 10:50:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
recruiting of the young is a serious issue to be addressed. It may be a simple as teaching children that homsexuality is wrong.
19 posted on 02/11/2004 10:50:46 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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=== But keep in mind that 10K for drugs is not the full bill. Hospitalizations, opportunistic infections, etc. --


Keep in mind that $500 or so a year for every woman taking birth control is not the full bill.

Cervical cancer, breast cancer, blood clots, warts, syphilis, Hepatitis, gonorhhea, etc. ... they all add up to over-burden with "elective" diseases and complications a medical system that's got its hands full trying to make women look like Drag Queens by providing them plastic breasts and boyish hips ... and dealing with the inevitable fallout.

And given the fact that abortion remains the most popular of all elective surgeries should give one pause. At $300-900 bucks a pop to kill a kid, those costs surely are staggering and the damage at least as patently lethal as that inflicted by homosexuals who manufacture excess lives sacrificed for "humanitarian" use by the sorts of Profiteers from whom our President procured his already-been-killed "stem lines".


To the related costs of heterosexuality as practiced post-Sexual Revolution, I'd also add the chit for anti-depressants and sexual aids necessary, it seems, to stay on an even keel and keep one's performance up to par when partaking of a more Evolutionary model of sex as based on the non-monogamous and sterile of the animal kingdom. I doubt very seriously Bob Dole's hawking a drug for which insurers won't pay up, big-time, to the pharmas.

If folks are going to decry homosexuals and their "elective" contracting of AIDS, I think the same finger ought to point to the costs of providing scrips for Viagra or treatment for the insanity that is surgically implanting toxins in your body for Effect.


=== Perhaps we should try to change the discussion toward the costs to the society and children from the "Gay Marriage" idea.

The costs to society from the "Hetero Marriage" idea as currently premised in the courts and most Enlightened minds today far exceed that which the homosexuals are incurring.

The notion we're protecting anything like a sacred institution at present from the evil homosexuals is ludicrous. Let them have their State marriages ... it's a drop in the bucket of what the Heteros currently are inflicting on all.


20 posted on 02/11/2004 10:53:18 PM PST by Askel5
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