What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda

self | February 11, 2004 | little jeremiah

[little jeremiah]

Some homosexuals or homo-promoters claim that some animals species act out homosexually. I am no biologist, but from what I have read these acts are generally when animals are isolated from others of their kind, not in their natural setting, or when immature and their instincts aren't all in place.

That said, even IF some animals did simulate the mating act with males on males or whatever, is that a good reason for humans to act like animals? Most animals also don't mate for life, many animals eat their young, most animals don't build houses, most animals never bathe, etc. Just because some few animals supposedly do something is not a logical rationale for humans to follow their example.

These kinds of "animals do it" arguments are foolish, and only appeal to people who do not believe that God exists, He's in control of nature, and that there is a higher purpose to life than eating and mating.

I totally agree with your point - once moral absolutes are rejected (and they are not sectarian - they are virtually the same in all the world's religious systems) - then the floodgates are opened, and what we are seeing in Massachusetts and San Francisco (and all the links that EdReform and scripter kindly post) will be tame stuff to what's coming in the near future.

Unless, somehow, things turn around. Which was my purpose in starting this thread. A few little pieces of gravel can start an avalanche.

[alexandria]

I find nothing wrong with non-procreative sex within the bounds of marrriage as long as an abortifacient is not used. (As I understand it every form of birth control pill is actually abortifacient). I can find nothing in the bible to support banning barrier methods or coitus interuptus.

Actually the pill, and the hormones therein, fools the woman's body into thinking she is already pregnant. When she reaches the week that they have the placebo pills the hormone level then drops off and there is what they call withdrawal bleeding similar to the menstrual bleeding.
After this the cycle starts over but the hormone that would usually be released (LH I think) to cause ovulation does not occur so no egg even matures in the ovaries to be ovulated.

[alexandria]

Some homosexuals or homo-promoters claim that some animals species act out homosexually.

The key word being ACT. They are speaking of the situations in which you sometimes see one animal exerting dominance over another. It is not a sexual or even a mating type of action.
I agree of course that we should not pattern ourselves after animals. My point was toward showing that homosexuality itself is against nature.

Getting back on topic. I work in a public school amd I was surprised a how many people, parents and teachers included were unaware of the literature that has filtered into the schools. When speaking to the new media assistant at the middle school last week I was shown a new book of poetry that a student brought to their attention. It was not the homosexual agenda but was sprinkled with foul language and some warped imagery. I then said, "well I can hardly be surprised since they are also lauding these new "tolerance" books for kids like My Two Daddies and such."
You should have seen the reaction, they really did not take me as being serious for a couple of seconds. So I would like to find a list or compile one for them to be able to use to ferret out such material.
This is a small rural school and we may be in California but we have a Trinity Christian club that meets on campus and fighting, or at least resisting, the homosexual agenda would be supported.

[little jeremiah]

You should check out the abidingtruth.com or defendthefamily.com websites linked to up the thread. Lively has a lot of stuff for schools - arguments for the natural family and against homosexuality that are secular based especially for schools, "free speech" clubs that schools can start - he has materials and so on.

I am well aware that CA has mandated pro-homosexual teaching K-12 since 2001. It is really snuck in so that the community often doesn't know what's going on. The homo-promoter definitely use deceit as one of their weapons.

I'm glad that there are still some decent, sane teachers in the system. What county are you in? Not Humboldt, are you? (shudder)

[little jeremiah]

Here's a link to a webpage from abidingtruth.com/defendthefamily.com called "Rescue the Schools" that might have relevant information for you:

http://www.defendthefamily.com/pflc/rescue.php

[alexandria]

LOL! No not Humboldt. Merced county. It is in central CA about an hour and forty five minutes south of Sacramento.

[little jeremiah]

I know Merced, I lived in and about Sac for years. Way, way too hot in the summer! What to speak of the air quality.

I prefer mountains! I live way rural, not far from the CA/OR border.

[little jeremiah]

Here's an idea connected with schools, and a link to a couple of posts you should read:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1078251/posts?page=102#102
(read comments #101 and 102)

Just got another idea for my Countering Homo-activism Thread - it could work on a mass scale or one by one.

Parents who realize what schools are doing to their kids do a public removal of said kid. If it was coordinated to happen on the same day or week - like the homosexual activists have co-opted Valentine's Day, turning it into "Freedom to Marry" day (or week, or whatever it is) - it could be called "Save our Kids from Homosexuality" or something. Imagine if thousands of parents show up as schools all over America, (with media alerted beforehand) and take their kids out of school. Alternatives? Homeschool charter schools, private schools.

Religious schools or private schools should advertise specifically stating something like this: "Send your kid to ......School and you won't be afraid he or she will come home and tell you he/she is "gay". Or less in-your-face advertising, or people can pay for billboards that say: "Protect your child from the homosexual agenda. Send them to the private school of your choice or homeschool".

Clearly one of the main battle fronts of the homosexual activists is to totally control the next generation.

Or teachers who are opposed to homosexual indoctrination of the students could refuse to allow it to be taught, but I'm sure that would jeopardize some peoples' jobs. But if right minded teachers stand up for the truth about homosexuality, it could help turn this thing around.

[tuesday afternoon]

Clearly one of the main battle fronts of the homosexual activists is to totally control the next generation.

Bump.

[jla]

bttt

[applemac_g4]

>Yet, I am reminded of people - conservatives, who don't want
>to vote for Bush because he isn't conservative enough. A vote
>for a third party candidate, or sitting out the election,
>only harms the conservative cause, increasing the possibility
>of Kerry or which jackass the Democraps pick, will win. At
>least with Bush, the behemoth may start turning around.

Bush supports civil unions for homosexuals and lesbians. In what way is that turning anything around? If we pass a constitutional amendment which defines marraige as being reserved for a man and a woman, and turn around and give away the same benefits to the gay lobby under the name of "civil unions" all we've done is play a semantic game.

No gay marriage.
No civil unions.

Why our beloved governator doesn't have the national guard out in the streets putting a stop to the lawlessness in San Francisco, I don't know. And no, that's not too harsh a reaction. That's the reaction you'd have if suddenly one day a university president broke the law and wouldn't admit black students...

[little jeremiah]

Can you cite Bush's statement that he supports civil unions? From what I've read, he's kind of skirted the issue. But what with all the ruckus the "gay" activists and their minions are creating, Bush better clarify his position, and I hope to God he stand against civil unions as well as "gay" marriage.

It will be interesting to see what happens on Tuesday, when the courts are open. Have you read or heard that Schwartzeneger has said anything - anything at all?

I thank divine providence that I don't live in SF. Throughout the last umpteen years, I've put in my time in the bay area, but left more than a decade ago, swearing never to return.

But, if someone organizes any big ralleys or protests about this crap, I think I'll drive down and freep!

[NYer]

Let's hear some more ideas.

Thousands Registered Under France's PACS Law
Friday, January 21st 2000

PARIS -- Since the passage of the Civil Solidarity Pact law in France last October, more than 6,000 same- and opposite-sex couples have registered their unions with the state, the Justice Ministry announced Thursday.

Registrants under the new law, known by its French acronym PACS, are able to enjoy many of the same rights and responsibilities previously restricted only to married couples.

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PACS provisions include allowing registered couples to file joint tax returns, collect pension, inheritance and other government-sponsored benefits, and reduce the waiting period for the issuance of foreign residency permits to partners of French nationals from five years to two.

The national debate over PACS legislation raged in France for the better part of two years. Tens of thousands of conservatives marched through the streets last year to denounce the proposed legislation. Opponents, joined by the Roman Catholic Church, issued dire warnings that the legislation would undermine family values and even bring about the end of French civilization.

The Socialists ultimately beat back Conservative attempts to derail the bill and passed PACS reform on October 13, 1999, by a vote of 315 to 249. Gay civil rights groups in France remain angry that the current bill does nothing to ease adoption restrictions and that a waiting period of three years was necessary before gay couples could file joint tax and claim other benefits.

Similar legislation already exists in several European countries, including Iceland, Belgium and Sweden. Laws in Denmark and the Netherlands are even more liberal. Germany is expected to begin debate on a national domestic partnership law early next year.

-- C. Barillas, Editor

[little jeremiah]

Apparently tens of thousands of conservatives marching through the streets didn't help. But I sure would love to see tens of thousands of conservatives marching through the streets HERE to protest "gay" marriage! Maybe on the same day as the revolting "Gay Prides".

I am NOT an organizer, live in a tiny rural community, but if anyone does organize any such protests/rallies, PLEASE publicize them well. I will drive anywhere north of mid-CA to attend, and I would bet that a lot of Freepers would as well.

[Amelia]

You're obsessed with homosexuals, aren't you?

[little jeremiah]

If you think that "gay" marriage being forced on an unwilling population is fine, if you think that homosexual indoctrination in schools across the country is fine, then what are you on this thread for?

Your comment is like asking someone who is being beaten up, are they obsessed with being beaten up? Let's say I am paying attention. Are you?

[Amelia]

then what are you on this thread for?

Simple, I didn't realize it was a vanity when I clicked on it.

[little jeremiah]

The point isn't that it is a vanity, but the purpose of the thread is to discuss things that can be done to roll back the "gay" agenda. If their agenda doesn't bother you, there's thousands of other threads.

[little jeremiah]

Now that the clown fool thug "mayor" of SF and his co-criminals have decided to play rough, I think we need to follow suit. Enough Mr. Nice Guy. Being Mr. Nice Guy has gotten us to where we are at.

Obviously I'm not promoting violence or law breaking. But civil disobedience maybe, in areas of the country where there are "non-discrimination" laws. What I'm really thinking of is stuff like this:

1. Say someone works as a desk clerk at a hotel. Two homosexuals want to reserve a "honeymoon suite". Say NO! They are reservered for newly married couples (if that is the hotel policy.) Refuse to take part in their sick fantasy.

2. Same thing if someone works in a wedding chapel type place, or caters weddings. Just refuse to cater to "gay" marriage.

3. Any opportunity that comes your way - don't cave in the pro-"gay" status quo. Take risks. Put bumper stickers on your car. If you live in CA (or anywhere else) and a couple of homosexuals present you with a bogus "marriage license" and want some special benefit or recognition, refuse it. Say, "Oh, that's not legal. I can't honor that. Marriage means a man and a woman."

And I am WAITING for announcements of rallies, protests, etc. I will drive up to 500 miles to attend one. If anyone hears of any such plans, put the news up on this thread (and anywhere else you want too).

[AppauledAtAppeasementConservat]

I'm not much on coming up with bumper sticker ideas but here's some ideas:

Arn't you glad shame went out the window and humanity followed.

WWJD? Forgive Repentant Homosexuals!

In America you have the right to be an abomination AND be proud of it.

As if AIDS wasn't enough

Soddom and Ghomerica

There's a reason why there arn't any same sex electrical plugs too!

That's about all I have. There is one other way that America can learn about why the homosexual agenda is bad. Unfortunately soddom and ghommorah's fate isn't very PC or Gay friendly but if it happens it will sure nip that problem in the bud. Best thing I can do is pray and vote for George W. Bush. I'll keep checking back and let you know if I come up with any other ideas.