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THE KERRY DOSSIER (post here anything you've uncovered on Kerry)
2/11/04
| FR INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
Posted on 02/11/2004 10:04:05 AM PST by Liz
Edited on 02/24/2004 3:01:19 AM PST by Lead Moderator.
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Kerry-Fonda pic
Actress and activist Jane Fonda attends an anti-Vietnam War rally at Valley Forge, Pennsylvania. The rally was sponsored by Vietnam veterans. John Kerry can be seen directly in the background. 1970 Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, USALeif Skoogfors (CORBIS)
WASH TIMES 2/11 Rep. Sam Johnson, Texas Republican, who spent nearly seven years in a prisoner-of-war camp in Vietnam, said yesterday the photograph of Mr. Kerry with Miss Fonda will hurt him nevertheless. "I think it symbolizes how two-faced he is, talking about his war reputation, which is questionable on the one hand, and then coming out against our veterans who were fighting over there on the other," Mr. Johnson said. Mr. Johnson recalled that his North Vietnamese captors played recordings of Miss Fonda telling U.S. troops to give up the war. "Seeing this picture of Kerry with her at antiwar demonstrations in the United States just makes me want to throw up."
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KEYWORDS: 2004; assassinationplot; barnes; brinkley; camil; darkplot; dossier; dubose; hanoijohn; hunt; johnkerry; kansascitymeeting; kerry; kerrydossier; kerrylies; kerryrecord; lipscomb; lurch; nicosia; scottcamil; swiftvets; vvaw
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To: irgn
I know, especially here in Norfolk.
81
posted on
02/11/2004 11:33:40 AM PST
by
BSunday
(<a href=http://www.johnkerry.com>gigolo</a>)
To: Liz
Apparently John Kerry recommended himself for the Silver Star. This information found at the following FR thread:
Click hereKind of makes you wonder what else he recommended himself for doesn't it?
82
posted on
02/11/2004 11:39:00 AM PST
by
mass55th
To: BilLies
"Has Kerry released his military files yet?"
Why bother, he probably wrote all of it himself.
83
posted on
02/11/2004 11:40:40 AM PST
by
mass55th
To: mass55th
From NRO today:
KERRY IN VIETNAM [John Derbyshire]
VERY interesting, from a military reader. I post the following because of its authentic-sounding quality, with no wish to slight or disparage anyone -- certainly not anyone who did combat duty in Vietnam. Would be very interested to hear comments or rebuttals from knowledgable servicemen or ex-servicemen, and will post them, though I reserve the right to edit (as I have, slightly, here).
"Three caveats to remember before examining JFK's war record:
"(1) Medal inflation. The Viet Nam War (VNW) was unpopular; in unpopular wars medals are generously awarded to try (usually unsuccessfully) to boost the morale of personnel and/or alter public opinion [the Wehrmacht on the Russian Front comes to mind]. The Navy was especially troublesome in this area because the majority of Naval personnel (aviators being the most prominent exception) in the VN theater were almost never exposed to enemy fire -- there were virtually no naval battles in the VNW (probably not even Ton-kin Gulf as it turns out). River patrol craft personnel were thus the Navy's entree into the medal arena -- they got lots of them.
"(2) Three and out. It was a naval tradition -- NOT AN OFFICIAL POLICY OR REGULATION -- that allowed personnel with three Purple Hearts to transfer to non-combat duty. JFK was well aware of this tradition.
"(3) JFK's Rank. Although JFK was not a high ranking officer he was always the highest ranking officer ON THE SCENE -- these were small craft and small operations. Enlisted men would be unlikely to risk contradicting JFK's account of what happened -- and 'boot lickers' would be encouraged to corroborate him. As ranking officer he was the one writing the eye-witness reports. In a sense his medals -- though approved by higher-ups -- were 'self awarded.'
"With these three caveats firmly in mind let's look at JFK's record:
"JFK experienced his first intense combat action on 2 December 1968. He was slightly wounded on his arm, he was awarded his first Purple Heart.
"JFK was awarded his second Purple Heart after sustaining a minor shrapnel wound in his left thigh on 20 February 1969.
"JFK was given a Silver Star for an action on 28 February 1969: JFK's Patrol Craft received a B-40 rocket shot from shore, he beached his craft in the center of the enemy positions and an enemy soldier sprang up from a nearby (10-15 ft.) hole and fled. The boat's forward machine gunner hit and wounded the fleeing VC as he darted behind a hooch. The twin .50s gunner also fired at the VC. The gunner said he 'laid 50 rounds' into the hooch before JFK leaped from the boat and dashed in to administer a 'coup de grace' to the soldier. JFK returned with a B-40 rocket and launcher. [In contrast, Army and Marine personnel were -- and are still -- routinely trained to engage and close with the enemy. Had JFK been commanding a platoon or rifle company this action -- going towards and not running away from enemy fire -- would have been routine.]
"On March 13, 1969, a mine [this is dubious; marine mines were hardly used by NV forces; it was probably a propelled grenade of some type] detonated near JFK's boat, slighting wounding Kerry in the right arm. He was awarded his third Purple Heart. On the basis of these awards JFK then petitioned to be removed from combat operations. Interestingly JFK also made sure to have the men who served in his craft transferred to safer positions (easy to due in the VNW Navy) -- perhaps to ensure their endorsement of his actions."
To: mass55th
As these Kerry reports surface over the next several months, President Bush's lead in the polls will be so far ahead that Kerry will never be able to ketch-up.
85
posted on
02/11/2004 11:47:19 AM PST
by
GYPSY286
To: The Grim Freeper
John Kerry reminds me of Tourist Guy.
86
posted on
02/11/2004 11:47:21 AM PST
by
KQQL
(@)
To: BSunday
87
posted on
02/11/2004 11:48:55 AM PST
by
KQQL
(@)
To: MattMa; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thank you both. I will include this post in mine.
88
posted on
02/11/2004 11:49:11 AM PST
by
backhoe
(--30--)
To: stylish1
"I don't see any difference between Kerry & Benedict Arnold."
There are some small differences.
1. Arnold became a turncoat for several reasons, money being one of them I believe.
2. Because he was an outspoken opponent of the U.S. role in Vietnam long before he ever enlisted and served. it's highly likely his main reason for enlisting was to establish a political resume for himself. At least Arnold believed in what he was doing prior to his changing sides.
3. Arnold left the United States, and for the most part was snubbed for the remainder of his life by the British who believed he couldn't be trusted.
4. John Kerry on the other hand, made successful political hay from his turncoat and traitorous activities...not to mention mucho bucks.
89
posted on
02/11/2004 11:50:09 AM PST
by
mass55th
To: Liz; Always Right; ElkGroveDan; RandallFlagg; anniegetyourgun; Ernest_at_the_Beach; cwboelter; ...
I'll bet John F**in" Heinz Kerry Fonda wishes he were sitting as closely behind Jane F. as George Harrison at that event.
Jane Fonda.......2004... pray for this in the Enquirer: "John was always so involved, so concerned, I just wish he wasn't always asking me for my credit card."
90
posted on
02/11/2004 11:52:39 AM PST
by
thesummerwind
(Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
To: Liz
He wants to raise my taxes and he picks his feet. :^)
91
posted on
02/11/2004 11:52:41 AM PST
by
Liberty Valance
(In Honor and memory of Pfc Cody Orr, Kerrville Texas)
To: GYPSY286
"As these Kerry reports surface over the next several months, President Bush's lead in the polls will be so far ahead that Kerry will never be able to ketch-up. "
Hardee har har! :)
92
posted on
02/11/2004 11:53:09 AM PST
by
mass55th
To: FairOpinion
This just in from NewMax:
In his 1985 memoir about the war, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap wrote that if it weren't for organizations like Kerry's Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Hanoi would have surrendered to the U.S. - according to Fox News Channel war historian Oliver North.
That's why, he predicted on Tuesday, the Vietnam War issue "is going to blow up in Kerry's face."
"People are going to remember Gen. Giap saying if it weren't for these guys [Kerry's group], we would have lost," North told radio host Sean Hannity.
"The Vietnam Veterans Against the War encouraged people to desert, encouraged people to mutiny - some used what they wrote to justify fragging officers," noted the former Marine lieutenant colonel, who earned two purple hearts in Vietnam.
"John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands," North said.
93
posted on
02/11/2004 11:55:12 AM PST
by
MattMa
(I'm not a victim, I am a conservative and if you get to close, I just may bite.)
To: Liz
I bet the FBI has a big file on Kerry. Maybe there are some photos of Kerry and Jane in those files. The file shoud also include all the Communist Chinese connections, he has too.
Can anyone think of a way to use the Freedom of Information Act to get more goods on Kerry?
This guy is scary.
To: Liz
Do we have to have facts? Or can we act like the democrats and just say anything?
CG
95
posted on
02/11/2004 11:56:47 AM PST
by
Conspiracy Guy
(It's a little cool in the house. Do you turn up the heat, or put on more clothing?)
To: Liz
A question that I posted on another thread: Was Kerry still in the Navy Reserve during the Fonda years?
In my (earlier) era, Army officers were obliged to serve for six years. After active duty they were "inactive" reservists with no drill requirements but available for immediate call-up if needed.
If Kerry was a reserve Naval officer his Fonda-philia was even more disgusting ... and perhaps even illegal.
96
posted on
02/11/2004 11:57:12 AM PST
by
aculeus
To: Liz
I find it REALLY interesting that the more steam Hanoi John picks up in the primaries......the more MoveOn.Org commercials I see......
Just a thought....
97
posted on
02/11/2004 12:02:14 PM PST
by
BossLady
To: BSunday
Click below:
98
posted on
02/11/2004 12:07:55 PM PST
by
smith288
(http://www.ejsmithweb.com/FR/JohnKerry/)
To: BSunday
The flag on that bumper sticker ought to have a hammer and a sickle on it!!!
99
posted on
02/11/2004 12:09:02 PM PST
by
NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
(Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
To: backhoe
Linking ping! Hit this thread with everything you've got! ;-)
100
posted on
02/11/2004 12:09:39 PM PST
by
NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
(Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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