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The Antiwar War Hero
The American Spectator ^
| 2/11/2004
| George Neumayr
Posted on 02/10/2004 10:34:18 PM PST by Utah Girl
If the Republicans formed a group called Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, it wouldn't hurt for members. Kerry's description of the Vietnam war as a sustained war crime while springboarding to higher office off service in that supposed war crime has grated on many veterans since Kerry entered politics. A group of them made a point of opposing Kerry's first political run.
Ho Chi Minh said that he won the Vietnam war not in the jungles of Vietnam but on the streets of America where protesters fought the war for him. Vietnam veterans outraged at Kerry's antiwar hijinks would agree with Ho. Kerry's wild testimony before Congress in 1971 comparing American soldiers to barbaric Mongols under Genghis Khan endangered them.
"We wish that a merciful God could wipe away our own memories of that service," Kerry said then. Apparently he wasn't referring to his own service. Now Kerry campaigns on memories of that service. Kerry's memories were treated like his medals, worth preserving for later use. Just as he could toss the medals of other Vets while tucking his own away, so he could speak of other Vets' memories as too wicked to recall while drawing upon his own for political advancement.
If the war was as discreditable as he described, why should he take so much credit for fighting in it? And if it was such a criminal war, how did he come out of it so clean? On the one hand, he wants to cast himself as a soldier with a heavy conscience; on the other, he doesn't want to say that he did anything to weigh it down. Which is why Vietnam veterans resented his entrance into politics: he was taking credit for his role in the war while in effect saying it had brought discredit on theirs. Why was their service Genghis Khan-like war crimes but his heroism?
Antiwar war heroes in American politics are forced into a juggling act. They at once have to make a show of their "shame" while carefully cordoning off their war conduct from anything shameful. This allows them to get praise for the shame, since it shows an impressive depth of soul, but none of the blame for the shameful moments of the war. Because Kerry performed valorously in the war, he can parade his guilt about the war without anyone asking: So what do you have to be guilty about?
Kerry bristled several years ago when the Boston Globe wondered if his famous nabbing and killing of a rocket-carrying Viet Cong "behind a hootch" might have qualified as a war crime: "What's the best interpretation? That a breathless young lieutenant, his pulse pounding with the exhilaration of battle, ran some distance from the river bank in pursuit of a soldier, turned the corner behind the hootch and came face to face with an enemy ready to kill him -- and that he fired in self-defense. What's the ugliest possibility? That behind the hootch Kerry administered a coup de grace to the Vietnamese soldier -- a practice not uncommon in those days, but a war crime nevertheless, and hardly the basis for a Silver Star."
The Globe reporter saw significance in Kerry's cryptic comment to the New Yorker, "I just won't talk about all of it. I don't and can't. The things that really turned me I've never told anybody. Nobody would understand
These things are very personal. It was our youth."
Kerry, reasonably enough, didn't care for the Globe's scrutiny, calling the reporter a "desk jockey" with no knowledge of the dangers of battle. But he didn't see that his own rhetoric about the Vietnam conflict as a series of war crimes might have invited such questions. A Vietnam vet who describes the war as criminal inadvertently draws attention to his own actions.
His outlandish statement before Congress in 1971 about soldiers who had "personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion remininscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam" invites the question: How would Kerry have known about all of this?
Presumably he was relying not on his experience but on antiwar hearsay, in which case the statement was a careless denigration of the "band of brothers" he now touts.
For a politician who considers Vietnam a "barbaric war," Kerry takes a peculiar pride in it. If service in Vietnam was such a horrid memory, then voters needn't remember his.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; kerry; vietnamveterans
Best article I've read on Kerry and his service in Viet Nam.
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:34:18 PM PST
by
Utah Girl
To: Utah Girl
They did form a group with that name!!!
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:35:05 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: GeronL
Really? Can I become a member? :)
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:35:35 PM PST
by
Utah Girl
To: Utah Girl
I guess so... I saw someone link a website a while back...
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:40:03 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: Utah Girl; sergeantkill
Nice article. Thanks for posting.
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:46:00 PM PST
by
canis major
(this space for rent)
To: GeronL; Utah Girl
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:47:17 PM PST
by
JulieRNR21
(One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
To: Utah Girl
Ho Chi Minh said that he won the Vietnam war not in the jungles of Vietnam but on the streets of America where protesters fought the war for him. Vietnam veterans outraged at Kerry's antiwar hijinks would agree with Ho. Kerry's wild testimony before Congress in 1971 comparing American soldiers to barbaric Mongols under Genghis Khan endangered them.Good. Vets should be outraged! They need to speak up! Loudly!
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:48:38 PM PST
by
concerned about politics
( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
To: Utah Girl
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:51:24 PM PST
by
FairOpinion
(If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
To: Utah Girl
Here is a very long, but very insightful article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1057936/posts Tour of Duty: John Kerry in Vietnam (very long)
The Atlantic Monthly ^ | December 2003 | Douglas Brinkley
Senator John F. Kerry often cites his service in Vietnam as a formative element of his character. A new account of his time therebased on interviews with those who knew him well, and on his never-before-published letters home and his voluminous "war notes"offers the first intimate look at a traumatic and life-altering experience.
"He had been considering Germany's occupation of France during World War II, he added, when "a thought came to me that I didn't likeI felt more like the German than the doughboy who came over to make the world safe for democracy and who rightfully had a star in his eye."
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:53:55 PM PST
by
FairOpinion
(If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
To: FairOpinion
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:54:46 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: Utah Girl
""The Globe reporter saw significance in Kerry's cryptic comment to the New Yorker, "I just won't talk about all of it. I don't and can't. The things that really turned me I've never told anybody. Nobody would understand
These things are very personal. It was our youth." ""
Yea, and if we had real investigative journalists they would be asking Hanoi Jane F'ing Kerry what happened and wouldn't let go til they had an answer.
"Investigating journalists" only investigate conservatives.
Blessings, bobo
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posted on
02/10/2004 11:00:00 PM PST
by
bobo1
To: bobo1
This guy's a fraud - he will be sniffed out !
there's too many facts out there in the record that he can't hide !
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posted on
02/10/2004 11:09:25 PM PST
by
america-rules
(It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
To: Utah Girl; All
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posted on
02/11/2004 12:25:02 AM PST
by
backhoe
(Jf'nK...)
To: america-rules
Bill Clinton cheerleader historian Douglas Brinkley has published a book about John Kerry Tour of Duty : John Kerry and the Vietnam War.
Douglas Brinkley is a member of the Gang of 400 that called themselves Historians in Defense of the Constitution Gang of 400 used academic credentials to falsely claim expertise in the U.S. Constitution and impeachment, but some were merely librarians and most are specialists in non-Constitutional and esoteric subjects such as welfare statism, gender studies, womens' studies, multicultural programs, and the creation of another elite and privileged constituency, homosexuals.
The New York Times, Friday, October 30, 1998, page A15
HISTORIANS IN DEFENSE OF THE CONSTITUTION
As historians as well as citizens, we deplore the present drive to impeach the President. We believe that this drive, if successful, will have the most serious implications for our constitutional order.
Historians in Defense of the Constitution | 2000 M Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036
NOTE: The address given in the ad (above) is the address of People for the American Way
Co-Sponsors
Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., City University of New York
Sean Wilentz, Princeton University
C. Vann Woodward, Yale University
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posted on
02/11/2004 12:28:27 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: Utah Girl
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posted on
02/11/2004 12:32:11 AM PST
by
LisaMalia
(In Memory of James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam..."This one's for you, Billy")
To: Utah Girl
Kommie Kerry cannot be trusted with America's security.
Freepers: Do everything you can to destroy his candidacy.
And stop f*cking around with your support of Bush.
You are being reckless with the lives of you, your loved ones, and your fellow Americans.
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posted on
02/11/2004 12:34:34 AM PST
by
Stallone
(Guess who Al Qaeda wants to be President?)
To: Utah Girl
I thought of a good campaign commercial for Hanoi Kerry.
One could take the old teasers for Apocalypse Now --and
mix in a few scenes of the anti-war protests in America--
but the part where the American war hero is given his mission to "go after" the rogue Special Forces guy--
Kerrys campaign face would appear as the cantidate who
wants to lead us to Apocalypse Now.Kerry's mug backed by
exploding Napalm--and horrific scenes that war hero must
appreciate.
To: america-rules
I surely hope so.
Blessings, Bobo
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posted on
02/11/2004 12:22:41 PM PST
by
bobo1
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