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Carlie Brucia found, dead
WCBS newsradio, cnn

Posted on 02/06/2004 3:35:51 AM PST by YankeeGirl

Just heard on WCBS newsradio NY that CNN reports Carlie Brucia found dead in Sarasota.


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KEYWORDS: 12thcircuit; brucia; carlie; carliebrucia; crime; criminal; death; druggies; getjudgerapkin; judgeharryripken; kidnap; killsmith; legal; manateecty; mandatorysentencing; murder; prosecution; rape; recidivism; ripripkenanuone; ritalin; sarasota; torture
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To: Beck_isright
I would hope that this and many other instances similiar to this, would give us the ammunition we need to revise our judical system! Judges sit on the bench and are accountable to no one!!!! That has got to change!!!
201 posted on 02/06/2004 5:23:55 AM PST by 4everontheRight (GW'04 - Rice"08)
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To: ought-six
Bravo Sierra! A judge was the power to disregard a jury's finding.

M'kay. If you say so. OTOH, I think the power to reverse a jury is limited, depending on whether the case is criminal or civil, and on the reason for the reversal. I'd love to see your cite where an acquittal in a jury-tried criminal case was reversed by the trial judge, or even on appeal, and where further, the outcome was anything but a retrial (e.g., tainted jury comes to light after trial, etc.).

202 posted on 02/06/2004 5:23:59 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: djf
If the jury acquitted him, it isn't the judge's fault. He was just carrying out their decision.

If the prosecution dropped the ball, then they can be blamed.

But if the jury saw a reasonable doubt, they did their job.
203 posted on 02/06/2004 5:24:02 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: NautiNurse
book marked
204 posted on 02/06/2004 5:24:22 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Carolinamom
A sorry situation when society has come to depend on incarcerated criminals to administer the "justice" that courts fail to do

Actually, I think it's neat.

Prisoners are ever so creative. :o)

205 posted on 02/06/2004 5:25:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (I know exactly what opinion I am permitted to have, and I am zealous -- nay, vociferous -- in it!!!)
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To: floriduh voter
Just an update from local radio; he claimed "reportedly" in a conversation with his mother last night that he was "so drugged up I don't remember anything." The insanity defense is already being planned. Thank you liberals. Thank you for making sure this piece of garbage will get to live.
206 posted on 02/06/2004 5:25:36 AM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Lazamataz
Good answer.
207 posted on 02/06/2004 5:25:54 AM PST by Bogey78O (Why are we even having this debate?)
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To: 1john2 3and4
thats some thing to say on a public forum. kudos for the candor, i admire you even more, now

Thanks. I've found out the hard way that honesty and being forthright is the only way to live.

208 posted on 02/06/2004 5:27:00 AM PST by Lazamataz (I know exactly what opinion I am permitted to have, and I am zealous -- nay, vociferous -- in it!!!)
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To: Beck_isright
In never ceases to amaze me that people like John F'n Kerry are against the death penalty for people who harmed innocent lives (Smith, McVeigh, OBL), yet blindly accept the killing of innocent babies who are unable to protect themselves. It is one more of those "inconsistenties" that remind us the total depravity of those who think it is okay to take the life of another.
209 posted on 02/06/2004 5:27:05 AM PST by alwaysconservative (We're rooting for you, President Bush!)
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To: jrlc
I sure would like to get a close look at Kerry's rack of ribbons. I can clearly identify the Silver Star, I believe the Bronze Star on the top row, the Purple Heart on the second row and the Vietnam Service on the bottom row but am having problems with the others. Anyone have a clearer photo in color.
211 posted on 02/06/2004 5:28:44 AM PST by Hurtgen (One who has been around the block.)
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To: Beck_isright
There was a man in NM that tried that defense. He was robbing a house when the woman and daughter came home. He shot the mother in the neck; daughter came running in to see what happened and he shot and killed her.

They put him on the stand during his trial, and he said: I was drunk, I was really, really drunk.

He was convicted, put on death row, and thankfully died from liver disease shortly afterwards.
212 posted on 02/06/2004 5:29:26 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: floriduh voter
Judge Harry M. Rapkin (not confirmed but I think this is the guy). 12th Circuit Sarasota County. I saw his picture on tv. Another soft on crime white guy with white hair.
213 posted on 02/06/2004 5:30:04 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: YankeeGirl
Fla. suspect in car-wash video charged with girl's murder

SARASOTA, Fla. (AP) — The body of an 11-year-old girl whose abduction was captured by a surveillance camera has been found in a church parking lot and a mechanic has been charged with her murder, officials said Friday.

Sarasota County Sheriff Bill Balkwill refused to say where Carlie Brucia's body was found, but a law enforcement source close to the investigation said it was found between 12:45 a.m. and 1 a.m. Friday outside a church not far from the car wash where she was taken.

"Our prayers on behalf of everybody here in Sarasota County go out to the family," Balkwill said.

He said Joseph P. Smith, 37, has been charged with her murder. He is believed to be the tattooed man in a mechanic's shirt who was seen in a car wash surveillance video leading Carlie away by the arm Sunday evening, authorities said.

Investigators found the body after negotiations with Smith, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Earlier, authorities had said he was not cooperating.

"We now stand ready to complete our obligation, and assure you that he will pay the ultimate price for what he did to her," Capt. Jeff Bell said.

Family and friends had kept vigil outside Carlie's ranch-style house which was decorated with banners and posters reading, "We love you, Carlie."

Carlie was described by friends as a beautiful girl who loved actress Jennifer Lopez, going to the mall and hanging out. The youngster was known for greeting friends with warm hugs. She was heading home from a slumber party when she was abducted.

Carlie's friend Natalie Thomas cried after hearing that her classmate's body was found. She remembered Carlie's smile and that she liked to go on walks.

Carlie's family had gone into seclusion Friday and was unavailable for comment.

"There's nothing you can do to make anybody feel better and it's going to hurt for a long, long time," said Chuck Chambers, a private investigator who was working with the family.

"I need my daughter home," Carlie's mother, Susan Schorpen, had said Thursday. "She's a very, very important part of this family and community."

Members of her former Girl Scout troop took a day off from school Wednesday to pass out fliers at shopping centers, canvass neighborhoods and distribute pink ribbons adorned with Carlie's name.

A reward fund of $50,000 was offered for information.

Smith has been arrested at least 13 times in Florida since 1993, according to state records and convicted of drug possession and other charges. He was arrested in 1997 in Manatee County on kidnapping and false imprisonment charges, but was acquitted a year later.

An aide to Smith's public defender, Adam Tebrugge, had declined to comment Thursday.

Carlie was walking home from a friend's house at about 6:20 p.m. Sunday when she took a short cut behind Evie's Car Wash, which was closed for the day.

Car wash owner Mike Evanoff said he checked the security system video Monday after bloodhounds led deputies to the business. The images of Carlie popped up almost immediately when he turned on the system, he said.

"It was cold chills right up my back," Evanoff said earlier this week. "My manager couldn't even look at it. It's an awful feeling."


214 posted on 02/06/2004 5:30:37 AM PST by kattracks
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I doubt it. The jury was probably railroaded by the judges instructions, and had no idea they were, in fact, empowered with actually running the trial. Under the common law, as our country was founded, the jury could even dismiss the judge if they thought he wasn't doing his job.

Find an attorney who will tell you that fact.
215 posted on 02/06/2004 5:30:55 AM PST by djf
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To: floriduh voter
Here ya go ..

http://12circuit.state.fl.us/bios/rapkin.htm
216 posted on 02/06/2004 5:31:11 AM PST by tx_eggman
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To: alwaysconservative
Yes, I have always had a hard time figuring that one out
217 posted on 02/06/2004 5:31:57 AM PST by graceland
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To: Beck_isright
I don't buy that he "was so drugged up....." he walked right over to Carlie and knew what he was doing, he is a lying piece of shi!.........
218 posted on 02/06/2004 5:32:20 AM PST by MVV
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To: mewzilla
Make the chair a love seat and throw in the judge. He should be the one who is an accessory to the crime.

Who appointed this POS?
219 posted on 02/06/2004 5:32:39 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: GailA
Yes, Ted Kennedy with John Kerry -- Kennedy is a top advisor to Kerry.
220 posted on 02/06/2004 5:35:17 AM PST by jrlc
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