Posted on 02/04/2004 9:36:33 AM PST by ninenot
Up to 14 million jobs are at risk of being shipped overseas, two UC Berkeley economists said Wednesday in a research report.
Contra Costa Times October 30, 2003
Were trying to move everything we can offshore, HP [Hewlett-Packard] Services chief Ann Livermore told Wall Street analysts at a meeting Wednesday.
Forbes, December 5, 2002
But as the US economy has slowly shifted toward service jobs, factory jobs have been steadily lost in fact, in just the past 39 months, some 2.8 million have vanished.
Christian Science Monitor December 11, 2003
Will America be a Third World country in 20 years?
Paul Craig Roberts, columnist-economist, January 21, 2003
(8) Since 1999 our Government has provided more than $1,800,000,000 in financing and insurance for these foreign countries through the Overseas Private Investment Corporation, and our Governments current exposure relative to these countries through our Export-Import Bank totals some $14,800,000,000, bringing the total subsidy of these countries by the United States to over $16,500,000,000.
(9) Many of these countries are not market-oriented, and hence their participation in United States-supported international finance regimes amounts to a direct subsidy by American taxpayers in the shrimping sector of their international competitors.
This works to a degree, depending on the nature of the work. A motivated person with little or no knowledge of a high tech field will not produce the same results of someone who is truly an expert, particularly in an esoteric field. There just isn't enough time in a single person's lifetime to reinvent the technologies. Every field has its experts; and, the scope of their knowledge and skill is often breathtaking. You have to match the job with the appropriate person. I have a BS degree, but have done the computer groundwork for seven Master's degrees for other people. Go figure. On the other hand, I have seen work firsthand that no amount of eagerness would accomplish. The end product was the result of highly educated (and highly motivated) people in multiple fields working long hours for years.
For your own enterprise, I wish you the best of luck. Judging from your responses, I'd bet that luck has little to do with any success you have or might enjoy in the future. It is always good to hear of someone who is successful by the sweat of his brow and product of his own mind. Hire American. Hire smart and skilled people. We're damn good, and no citizen of some third world country will keep us running should times turn bad.
It seem you have been stuck reading fiction.
Industry and manufacturing are going on --- there is a continuation --- but it was decided that the continuation would go on outside of this country.
True! I see them in my backyard.
Deal Hammered Out On Shrimper Relief By MIKE SALINERO msalinero@tampatrib.com Published: Jan 9, 2004
TALLAHASSEE - Florida shrimpers and state lawmakers reached agreement Thursday on how to spend $7 million in federal relief money to help the beleaguered domestic shrimp industry.
The Legislative Budget Commission approved a plan that calls for $4.6 million in direct payments to about 1,100 shrimpers, including those from Alabama and other states with landings in Florida.
The commission also agreed to industry requests that $1.2 million of the federal money go to a marketing campaign. Commission members slashed the marketing money at their last meeting in October.
Congress appropriated $17.5 million in March for the South Atlantic and Gulf shrimping industries. The money is to provide relief for an industry battered by less-expensive imports. China, Vietnam, Thailand, Brazil and other countries have captured 88 percent of the U.S. market by selling low-cost, pond-raised shrimp. At the same time, domestic shrimp prices dropped 40 percent over the last six years.
``Imports have killed the industry. We need all we can get from marketing,'' said John Williams, a Tarpon Springs shrimper and secretary/ treasurer of the Southern Shrimp Alliance.
Legislators have been skeptical that a $1.2 million marketing campaign can get consumers to choose Florida shrimp.
``When was the last time you were in Red Lobster and asked if they had Florida shrimp?'' asked commission chairman Sen. Ken Pruitt, R- Port St. Lucie.
Sen. Tom Lee, R-Brandon, said a $1.2 million shrimp campaign will be like a ``ball lost in the weeds'' competing for public attention against multimillion-dollar advertising efforts.
But shrimpers were united in the need to market the product.
``That will be $1.2 million more than we've ever had before,'' Williams told Lee. ``It's a beginning.''
Joanne McNeely, who heads up seafood and aquaculture marketing for the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, said the agency has already had success with small shrimp campaigns targeted to groceries. Large grocery stores often have three or more types of shrimp, McNeely said. Florida shrimp is typically more expensive because it costs more to harvest from the sea.
McNeely said many consumers are willing to pay the extra money when they see the department's ``Florida Fresh'' identifier in grocery advertisements. During these promotions, stores have seen sales of Florida shrimp increase 500 to 2,000 percent.
``When we tell them it's Florida, they're willing to pay a little more to have that ocean flavor,'' she said.
Shrimpers said they do not plan to bash the foreign products, even though they believe the sea-harvested shrimp are healthier. Williams, the Tarpon Springs shrimper, said the European Union, Canada and Japan have banned shrimp imports from China and Thailand because of heavy use of animal antibiotics to prevent disease in the densely packed shrimp ponds. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration typically checks about 2 percent of imports for chemical contamination, Williams said.
In return for restoring the marketing money, Pruitt insisted that smaller shrimp outfits pay less out of their relief payments toward the marketing campaign than larger harvesters. A shrimper who lands less than 200,000 pounds over three years would get $4,350 instead of $3,500.
Remaining money will go to wholesale dealers, reward compliance with federal regulations to protect sea turtles from shrimp nets and cover administrative costs.
Mike Salinero can be reached at (850) 222-8382.
The problem in shrimping in Florida is the easy availability of foreign farm-raised shrimp. The EPA and other gummint agencies have effectively stopped any shrimp-farming here, and they're going after chicken-farming and beef-farming next! (OK, I was kidding - they're already EPA'd up-the-ass.)
Here's some REAL facts to upset y'all: Jeb Bush refuses to allow off-shore drilling for gas and oil in Florida waters. Off-shore gas/oil platforms generate huge amounts of shrimp and fish. There has never been a serious accident involving gas/oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. The USA is increasingly dependant on foreign oil and gas, and the Gulf of Mexico seems to have as much petroleum as the Middle East. This list goes on and on...
Tarpon Springs (my home!) is also famous for those cheesy sponge-diving movies of the '50s, with guys getting caught in giant underwater clams and such. I really enjoy the sight of the occasional sponge-boat coming in with its' catch displayed.
Paying gummint money (OUR TAX MONIES) to the shrimpers is a short-term helper, but it only helps them go-out-of-business. REAL gummint help would be a philosophy that fills their nets with their own well-earned money.
As I said before, I live on the Anclotte River in Tarpon Springs, one mile from the Gulf. It's pretty much where I wanted to wind-up. No ice or snow! What has happenned to my Industry is something that I should have seen coming, but I missed. I don't look for some Government subsidy to save my Industry, but I'll take anything that gets my employees kids through college. I owe them that.
There is so much opportunity available to us as a Nation, and our own Government bureaucracy is killing it. < /rant >..............FRegards
Anti-Elitist Reversals
The history of that period shows that Ronald Reagan exploited this issue very capably. On February 26th, in New Hampshire where the matter had become the deciding issue in the primary, voters gave him a lopsided victory. His strong showing and the correspondingly weak showing by George Bush delighted the nation's conservatives and set a pattern for future victories that carried Mr. Reagan all the way to the White House.
But something else happened on February 26, 1980 that should have raised many more eyebrows than it did. On the very day that Ronald Reagan convincingly won the nation's first primary, he replaced his campaign manager with longtime Council on Foreign Relations member William J. Casey. Mr. Casey served as the Reagan campaign manager for the balance of the campaign, and was later rewarded with an appointment as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.
The selection of William J. Casey in the strategically important position of campaign manager was highly significant. He is a New York lawyer who served the Nixon Administration in several positions including Under Secretary of State for Economic Affairs and Chairman of the Export-Import Bank. In those two posts especially, he gained a reputation as a crusader for U.S. taxpayer-financed aid and trade with communist nations.
During this same period, while serving as an official of the State Department, Casey declared in a public speech given in Garden City, New York, that he favored U.S. policies leading to interdependence among nations and to the sacrificing of our nation's independence. (27) These attitudes are thoroughly in agreement with the long-term objectives of the Insiders, but are not at all consistent with the public positions taken by Mr. Reagan. But very few made note of the Casey appointment because very few knew anything about Mr. Casey.
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Rockefeller Ties In April 1980, Mr. Reagan told an interviewer from the Christian Science Monitor (28) that he would shun the directions of David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission. But George Bush, who had recently resigned both from the Trilateral Commission and from the Board of Directors of the Council on Foreign Relations, could not shake the stigma of his Insider connection.
In Florida, understanding about the Trilateral Commission led to widespread use of a political advertisement which claimed, "The same people who gave you Jimmy Carter want now to give you George Bush." (29) An identical ad appeared in Texas. The Reagan bandwagon, propelled in part by its attack on the Insiders, began to score one primary victory after another.
Eventually, Ronald Reagan convincingly won the Republican nomination. Conservatives across the nation were delighted That is, they were delighted until he shocked his supporters by selecting George Bush as his running mate. George Bush was the very epitome of the Insider Establishment type that had made so many of these people strong Reagan backers in the first place. That night, at the Republican convention, the word "betrayal" was in common usage.
Ronald Reagan had repeatedly and publicly promised that he would pick a running mate who shared his well-known conservative views. But, of all the Republicans available, he picked the man who was the darling of the Rockefellers. Nor was the Rockefeller-Bush relationship any secret.
Campaign finance information had already revealed that prior to December 31,1979, the Bush for President campaign had received individual $1,000 contributions (the highest amount allowed by law) from David Rockefeller, Edwin Rockefeller, Helen Rockefeller, Laurance Rockefeller, Mary Rockefeller, Godfrey Rockefeller, and several other Rockefeller relatives and employees.
Staunch Reagan supporters frantically tried to stop the Bush nomination. But political considerations quickly forced them to go along. One after another, they began to state that their man was still at the top of the ticket. "It was Reagan-Bush, not Bush-Reagan," they said. But all had to admit that the issue of Trilateral domination of the Carter Administration could hardly be used with a Trilateralist veteran like Bush on the ticket.
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For the critically important post of White House Chief of Staff, Mr. Reagan named James Baker III. The White House Chief of Staff determines who gets to see the President, what reading material will appear on his desk, and what his policy options might be on any given situation. But James Baker had fought against Ronald Reagan as the campaign manager for George Bush in 1980, and as a campaign staffer for Gerald Ford in 1976. He is a confirmed liberal who was an opponent of the philosophy enunciated by Mr. Reagan during the 1980 campaign. In his White House post, he leads a team of like-minded men who have virtually isolated the President from the many conservatives who supported his election bid.
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Policy Reversals As President, Mr. Reagan has been given the image of a tough anti-communist and a frugal budget-cutter. But the images do not hold up under close scrutiny. Only one year after taking office, he acquiesced in the taxpayer-funded bailout of Poland's indebtedness to large international banks. Even worse, he skirted the law which mandates that any nation in such financial difficulty must be formally declared in default before the U.S. government could assume its debts. What made this action doubly revealing was that it occurred at the very time that thousands of Polish citizens had been incarcerated in a typical communist crackdown against even a slight semblance of freedom.
During 1981 and 1982, Ronald Reagan personally signed authorizations for the U.S. Export-Import Bank to finance nuclear steam turbines for communist Rumania and power generation equipment and a steel plant for communist China. (32) Tens of millions of U.S. taxpayers' dollars are being provided for the industrialization of these Red tyrannies.
Also, Reagan Administration officials announced plans to sell arms to Red China; they told anti-communist businessmen in El Salvador that the U.S. would oppose efforts by any anti-communist Salvadorans to gain control of their country; and these same Administration officials refused to honor a pledge to supply Free Chinese on Taiwan with the fighter planes deemed necessary by the Chinese for defense.
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More Reagan Duplicity At the halfway point of the Reagan four-year Presidential term, the Director of the Congressional Budget Office forecast budget deficits in the $150 billion range for the Reagan-directed fiscal years 1982, 1984 and 1985.34 Others insisted that the deficits would be even higher. The largest deficit in the nation's history, prior to the Reagan Administration, was $66 billion during the Ford years. Budget deficits, of course, translate into inflation, high interest rates, business slowdown, higher taxes, and unemployment. If federal spending were no more than federal revenue, if we had the benefit of a balanced budget in other words, some of these problems would be far less severe
. Shortly after he took office, Mr. Reagan twisted the arms of conservative senators and congressmen to get them to raise the ceiling on the national debt. Had he insisted on no further increases, the spiralling growth of government could have been checked. But instead, he used his influence to authorize more debt. Then he did the very same thing again eight months later, and again in 1982. As a result, interest on the debt alone grew to $117 billion for fiscal 1982.
In his State of the Union address on January 26, 1982, President Reagan again appealed to conservative Americans when he stated
: Raising taxes won't balance the budget. It will encourage more government spending and less private investment. Raising taxes will slow economic growth, reduce production and destroy future jobs.... So, I will not ask you to try to balance the budget on the backs of the American taxpayers. I will seek no tax increases this year.
One result of the failure of the Reagan Administration to stand by the philosophy which brought the President to the White House is that conservatives everywhere have been blamed for the nation's woes. The congressional elections of 1982 amounted to a significant setback for the entire conservative movement. It seemed to many voters that the conservative program had been tried and found wanting. The truth is that the conservative program has yet to be tried. And the reason why it has not been tried is that the Insiders who surround Ronald Reagan are still in control.
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Will America continue on a path which amounts to fiscal suicide? Will our government continue to build and support communism everywhere, while it works simultaneously to destroy the few remaining anti-communist nations? The John Birch Society wants to put an end to Insider control of the policies of this nation. If we are to succeed, the active help of many more Americans is needed in a massive educational crusade. Whether or not you decide to help will count heavily toward whether the future for this nation will be enslavement or freedom
. The Insiders are hoping that you will do nothing. But true Americans everywhere are asking for and counting on your help. The best kind of help you can give is active support for and membership in the John Birch Society.
He swore before God and man to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States and now is actively working to destroy it!
He most certainly did not! He changed the oath, omitting any mention of the Constitution. He did mention "upholding" or "enforcing" the "laws", which is another matter entirely, since most of our gazillion laws are un-Constitutional.
It's still a bug, Mama. The taste is the bug, not what it's grown in.
You can grow perfect roses in pure cat-manure, which is probably the only reason for allowing cats to live, but no longer under my windows at night!................FRegards
Notice significantly cheaper shrimp at the markets? No?
These low prices are not being passed along to the consumer. Shrimp is not any cheaper at Red Lobster or at Krogers.
Slap a tariff on the sea bugs!
B'zzzt. Incorrect. You need to revisit history. The Republicans had it right in 1896, and those who have learned from history (which obviously excludes the CATO-ites) still embrace protectionism...certainly the Chinese do.
The Republicans of the United States, assembled by their representatives in National Convention, appealing for the popular and historical justification of their claims to the matchless achievements of thirty years of Republican rule, earnestly and confidently address themselves to the awakened intelligence, experience, and conscience of their countrymen in the following declaration of facts and principles:
For the first time since the Civil War the American people have witnessed the calamitous consequences of full and unrestricted Democratic control of the Government. It has been a record of unparalleled incapacity, dishonor and disaster. In administrative management it has ruthlessly sacrificed indispensable revenue, entailed an unceasing deficit, eked out ordinary current expenses with borrowed money, piled up the public debt by $262,000,000 in time of peace, forced an adverse balance of trade, kept a perpetual menace hanging over the redemption fund, pawned American credit to alien syndicates, and reversed all the measures and results of successful Republican rule. In the broad effect of its policy it has precipitated panic, blighted industry and trade with prolonged depression, closed factories, reduced work and wages, halted enterprise and crippled American production, while stimulating foreign production for the American market. Every consideration of public safety and individual interest demands that the Government shall be rescued from the hands of those who have shown themselves incapable of conducting it without disaster at home and dishonor abroad, and shall be restored to the party which for thirty years administred it with unequalled success and prosperity. And in this connection we heartily endorse the wisdom, patriotism and the success of the Administration of President Harrison.
Allegiance to Protection Renewed.
We renew and emphasize our allegiance to the policy of Protection as the bulwark of American industrial independence and the foundation of American development and prosperity. This true American policy taxes foreign products and encourages home industry; it puts the burden of revenue on foreign goods; it secures the American market for the American producer; it upholds the American standard of wages for the American workingman; it puts the factory by the side of the farm, and makes the American farmer less dependent on foreign demand and prices; it diffuses general thrift and founds the strength of all on the strength of each. In its reasonable application it is just, far and impartial, equally opposed to foreign control and domestic monopoly, to sectional discrimination and individual favoritism.
We denounce the present Democratic tariff as sectional, injurious to the public credit and destructive to business enterprise. We demand such an equitable tariff on foreign imports which come into competition with American products, as will not only furnish adequate revenue for the necessary expenses of the Government, but will protect American labor from degradation to the wage level of other lands. We are not pledged to any particular schedules. The question of rates is a practical question, to be governed by the conditions of the time and of production; the ruling and uncompromising principle is the protection and development of American labor and industry. The country demands a right settlement, and then it wants rest.
Reciprocity Demanded.
We believe the repeal of the reciprocity arrangements negotiated by the last Republican Administration was a national calamity, and we demand their renewal and extension on such terms as will equalize our trade with other nations, remove the restrictions which now obstruct the sale of American products in the ports of other countries, and secure enlarged markets for the products of our farms, forests and factories.
Protection and reciprocity are twin measures of Republican policy and go hand in hand. Democratic rule has recklessly struck down both, and both must be re-established. Protection for what we produce; free admission for the necessaries of life which we do not produce; reciprocal agreements of mutual interest which gain open markets for us in return for our open market to others. Protection builds up domestic industry and trade and secures our own market for ourselves; reciprocity builds up foreign trade and finds an outlet for our surplus.
We condemn the present Administration for not keeping faith with the sugar producers of this country; the Republican party favors such protection as will lead to the production on American soil of all the sugar which the American people use and for which they pay other countries more than $100,000,000 annually. To all our products--to those of the mine and the field, as well as those of the shop and the factory--to hemp, to wool, the product of the great industry of sheep husbandry, as well as to the finished woolens of the mill--we promise the most ample protection.
Merchant Marine.
We favor restoring the early American policy of discriminating duties for the upbuilding of our merchant marine and the protection of our shipping in the foreign carrying trade, so that American ships--the product of American labor, employed in American shipyards, sailing under the Stars and Stripes, and manned, officered and owned by Americans--can regain the carrying of our foreign commerce.
The Currency Plank.
The Republican party is unreservedly for sound money. It caused the enactment of the law providing for the resumption of specie payment in 1879; since then every dollar has been as good as gold.
We are unalterably opposed to every measure calculated to debase our currency or impair the credit of our country. We are, therefore, opposed to the free coinage of silver, except by international agreement with the leading commercial nations of the world, which we pledge ourselves to promote; and, until such agreement can be obtained, the existing gold standard must be preserved. All our silver and paper currency must be maintained at parity with gold, and we favor all measures designed to maintain inviolable the obligations of the United States and all our money, whether coin or paper, at the present standard, the standard of the most enlightened nations of the earth.
Justice to Veterans.
The veterans of the Union armies deserve and should receive fair treatment and generous recognition. Whenever practicable, they should be given the preference in the matter of employment, and they are entitled to the enactment of such laws as are best calculated to secure the fulfillment of the pledges made to them in the dark days of the country's peril. We denouce the practice in the Pension Bureau, so recklessly and unjustly carried on by the present administration, of reducing pensions and arbitrarily dropping names from the rolls, as deserving the severest condemnation of the American people.
Foreign Relations.
Our foreign policy should be at all times firm, vigorous and dignified, and all our interests in the Western hemisphere carefully watched and guarded. The Hawaiian Islands should be controlled by the United States, and no foreign Power should be permitted to interfere with them; the Nicaragua Canal should be built, owned, and operated by the United States, and, by the purchase of the Danish Islands, we should secure a propert and much-needed naval station in the West Indies.
The massacres in Armenia have aroused the deep sympathy and just indignation of the American people, and we believe that the United States should exercise all the influence it can properly exert to bring these atrocities to an end. In Turkey, American residents have been exposed to the gravest dangers, and American property destroyed. There, and everywhere, American citizens and American property must be absolutely protected at all hazards and at any cost.
We reassert the Monroe Doctrine in its full extent, and we reaffirm the right of the United States to give the doctrine effect by responding to the appeals of any American State for friendly intervention in case of European encroachment. We have not interfered, and shall not interfere, with the existing possessions of any European Power in this hemisphere, but those possessions must not, on any pretext, be extended. We hopefully look forward to the eventual withdrawal of the European Powers from this hemisphere, and to the ultimate union of all the English-speaking part of the continent by the free consent of its inhabitants.
Suffering Cuba.
From the hour of achieving their own independence, the people of the United States have regarded with sympathy the struggles of other American peoples to free themselves from European domination. We watch with deep and abiding interest the heroic battle of the Cuban patriots against cruelty and oppression, and our best hopes go out for the full success of their determined contest for liberty. The Government of Spain, having lost control of Cuba, and being unable to protect the property or lives of resident American citizens, or to comply with its treaty obligations, we believe that the Government of the United States should actively use its influence and good offices to restore peace and give independence to the island.
The Navy.
The peace and security of the Republic, and the maintenance of its rightful influence among the nations of the earth, demand a naval power commensurate with its position and responsibility. We therefore favor the continued enlargement of the navy and a complete system of harbor and seacoast defenses.
Foreign Immigration.
For the protection of the equality of our American citizenship and of the wages of our workingmen against the fatal competition of low-priced labor, we demand that the immigration laws be thoroughly enforced and so extended as to exclude from entrance to the United States those who can neither read nor write.
Civil Service.
The Civil Service law was placed on the statute book by the Republican party, which has always sustained it, and we renew our repeated declarations that it shall be thoroughly and honestly enforced and extended wherever practicable.
Free Ballot.
We demand that every citizen of the United States shall be allowed to cast one free and unrestricted ballot, and that such ballot shall be counted and returned as cast.
Lynchings.
We proclaim our unqualified condemnation of the uncivilized and barbarous practices well known as lynching and killing of human beings, suspected or charged with crime, without process of law.
National Arbitration.
We favor the creation of a National Board of Arbitration to settle and adjust differences which may arise betwen employers and employed engaged in inter-State commerce.
Homesteads.
We believe in an immediate return to the free homestead policy of the Republican party, and urge the passage by Congress of the satisfactory free homestead measure which has already passed the House and is now pending in the Senate.
Territories.
We favor the admission of the remaining Territories at the earliest practicable date, having due regard to the interests of the people of the Territories and of the United States. All the Federal officers appointed for the Territories should be selected from bona fide residents thereof, and the right of self-government should be accorded as far as practicable.
We believe the citizens of Alaska should have representation in the Congress of the United States, to the end that needful legislation may be intelligently enacted.
Temperance and the Rights of Women.
We sympathize with all wise and legitimate efforts to lessen and prevent the evils of intemperance and promote morality.
The Republican party is mindful of the rights and interests of women. Protection of American industries includes equal opportunities, equal pay for equal work, and protection to the home. We favor the admission of women to wider spheres of usefulness, and welcome their co-operation in rescuing the country from Democratic and Populistic mismanagement and misrule.
Such are the principles and policies of the Republican party. By these principles we will abide, and these policies we will put into execution. We ask for them the considerate judgment of the American people. Confident alike in the history of our great party and in the justice of our cause, we present our platform and our candidates in the full assurance that the election will bring victory to the Republican party and prosperity to the people of the United States.
Or Biotech. "Seize the Opportunity", as a famous guy whose ranch is already paid for recently said.
Well, the Chinese have been using human manure for thousands of years and they're down to 1.3 - 1.2 billion people who can't drive cars properly.
Actually, we use it too, after it comes out of the waste treatment plant. It's just another fertilizer called 'NA-CHURS'.............FRegards
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