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“That was a Very Stupid Question, Senator”
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | [February 2, 2004] | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 02/02/2004 8:41:47 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

The first rule of testifying before Committees of Congress, which I’ve done on several occasions, is this: Be polite to the Members of Congress. Last week during the testimony of Dr. David Kay, former Chief Weapons Inspector for Iraq, before the Senate Armed Forces Committee, at least four instances cried out for an exception to that rule.

The worst such example arose at the end of the questioning by Senator Mark Dayton, D-Minn. First, he asked Dr. Kay “How many nations have WMD capabilities?” Kay answered that “about fifty countries have such capacities.” Dayton then mused that the United States could not attack fifty countries all at once.

Rather than point out that the United States has no reason to attack nuclear powers such as France, Israel, Pakistan and India for instance, Kay indirectly pointed out the folly of Dayton’s question. Kay said that we “cannot control capability – intention is the key.” And later Kay said that we need to make accurate “judgments about real intentions.”

But the Senator persisted in his course of foolishness. At the end of his allotted time, he went into a rambling discourse that seemed on occasion like a question would break out. It was about Libya, classified as a rogue nation for decades, which has just agreed to abandon its biological, chemical and nuclear programs. In an apparent reference to the difference between Libya and Iraq, Senator Dayton suggested a “contrast [between] the success of that approach without the loss of American lives.”

At the end of his discourse, Senator Dayton said, “My time has expired.” Dr. Kay therefore did not respond to his question. However, the proper answer to his question would have been, “That was a very stupid question, Senator.”

Dr. Kay could have backed up that conclusion by noting that anyone who reads papers knows that Libya had recently reached and paid a billion-dollar settlement with the relatives of the Pan Am flight bombed out of the sky over Lockerbie, Scotland. He could have noted that Libya, long an “enemy” of the United States, opened its very secret negotiations nine days after the United States attacked Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq, and that the Libyan negotiations got very serious very quickly after Hussein’s regime collapsed like a house of cards before the swift and thorough attack of American forces.

He could have noted that two decades ago, Libya earned a good living by selling its natural gas in LNG ships (“liquified natural gas”) to the United States, through two ports built for that precise product in Boston and Baltimore. Dr. Kay should have stated for the Senator the obvious point that events in Iraq had self-evidently instructed the Libyan dictator that it is a terrible choice on the international stage to be on the bad side of the United States.

Dr. Kay could have quoted the shortest and perhaps best definition of diplomacy from President Teddy Roosevelt: “Speak softly and carry a big stick.”

In short, almost the entire discourse by Senator Dayton demonstrated an ignorance of recent history and logical analysis that is breathtaking in its stupidity. But all things considered, it was probably wise for Dr. Kay not to point out that stupidity in plain English, to the Senator.

But that was not the only example.

Before Senator Hillary Clinton, D-NY, had her turn at bat in the same hearing, Dr. Kay had already explained (both in his prepared testimony and in answer to questions from other Senators) the essential differences between the UN-sponsored inspections and the ones carried out by him and his staff. As Dr. Kay said, “the UN inspections were partially successful.” But he went on to point out that his staff, after the war, got much more information because “the Iraqis who had information were no longer in fear of their lives if they told inspectors the truth about what they knew.”

Senator Clinton demonstrated that she either wasn’t paying attention to the prior information, or didn’t care about it. In her questions, she persisted in suggesting that the “UN inspections might have succeeded, if permitted to do so.” Again, Dr. Kay was polite in his responses. Instead of pointing out that the Senator’s question was “stupid,” he patiently repeated the central point that only after the collapse of Hussein’s regime could Iraqis speak honestly about what they knew, without fear of execution of them or their families.

The third example of congressional stupidity on parade occurred during the questioning by Senator Carl Levin, D-Mich. Senator Levin went on at length about the pre-war failings of American intelligence. Dr. Kay, both then and elsewhere in his testimony, patiently explained that for decades, all the American intelligence agencies had been cut back seriously in their “human” intelligence. We were relying instead on statements by defectors and others outside Iraq, and also on other nations’ intelligence agencies and their conclusions.

Never did Dr. Kay refer to the “Levin Amendment.” This amendment, sponsored by the self-same Senator, forbade American agencies from employing various kinds of “bad guys,” war criminals and the like, as sources. Dr. Kay could have pointed out the obvious point that anyone who merely watches cop shows on TV knows the drill. You catch and “flip” the small fry in any criminal enterprise, in order to expose and nail the ones at the top. It is a process that works in breaking up drug rings, auto theft rings, and corporate swindles, among others. In short, if you want to uncover and stop the development of weapons of mass murder, the best way to do that is to find and “flip” some of the low-level participants in that very scheme.

In short, Senator Levin was complaining about a failure that led directly and inescapably from his own amendment to America’s intelligence laws. Levin’s false sanctimony about US intelligence failures resembled the plea of a son who killed his parents for mercy, on the ground that he was an orphan.

The fourth example of stupid questioning of Dr. Kay by a Senator occurred during the time allotted to Senator Teddy Kennedy, D-Mass. Dr. Kay had previously stated in no uncertain terms that “the intelligence information prior to the war was wrong,” but that to his knowledge, “no intelligence officer was ever pressured to change his analysis.”

Despite this, Senator Kennedy began with a long, pre-prepared statement that repeatedly alleged that “the Administration misled the American people” about the status of WMD in Iraq. Again, Dr. Kay was polite. He did not point out that Senator Kennedy’s questions were dishonest. Instead, he carefully repeated his prior testimony, that the Administration used the intelligence as provided, without change, compelled or otherwise, and that all the intelligence services of other major nations had reached exactly the same mistaken conclusions prior to the war.

While Senator Kennedy said that “no other conclusion could be reached” except that the Administration “misled” the American people, in fact a different conclusion is self-evident. The Senator had walked into the hearing with pre-prepared talking points (or shouting or growling points, for those who have seen the Senator’s recent appearances on the campaign trail with John Kerry). The Senator wasn’t about to let the facts presented in the hearing interfere in any way with the “conclusions” he wanted to draw.

And exactly as the Senator expected, his talking points were excerpted on most of the major news media accounts of the Kay hearing before the Committee. In fact, the cameras for the major news outlets all packed up and left early, all of them before Senator Dayton took the microphone, and most of them even before Senator Clinton had her turn.

That’s a shame. C-SPAN, of course, carried the hearing from gavel to gavel. But only about 0.1% of the American public are, like me, C-SPAN junkies who watch such things gavel to gavel. None of the major media, broadcast or print, carried any discussion of Senator Dayton’s exchanges with Dr. Kay.

I firmly believe that the quality of American politics would vastly improve if world-class instances of congressional stupidity were widely reported. It would require no editorialization. Just put the stupid statement side-by-side with the facts which demonstrate its stupidity. There are ample examples of this. Senator Mark Dayton, D-Minn., just happens to be last week’s poster child for congressional stupidity.

Readers of this who are located in Minnesota are encouraged to send copies of this column to Senator Dayton. Best you send it in printed form. The Senator demonstrates a blissful ignorance of modern facts and developments, and he may not be up to speed on e-mail. Presumably, he can handle the printed word.

And just so the good Senator doesn’t miss the point, “That was a VERY stupid question, Senator.”

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About the Author: John Armor is an author and columnist on politics and history. He currently has an Exploratory Committee to run for Congress.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: davidkay; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; senatearmedservices; senatorclinton; senatordayton; senatorkennedy
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Think y'all will appreciate this one. It'll save you the trouble of reading David Kay's testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

If you haven't already, please visit my website, click on the big blue button, and sign up to fight CFR, if that suits your taste.

Cordially,

John / Billybob

1 posted on 02/02/2004 8:41:48 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
Anyone that votes Democratic votes for appeasement, cowardice and attacks on America. But for those that hate America first, it is what they want. My only hope that any attack, if it comes, hits Hollywood.
2 posted on 02/02/2004 8:46:33 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Bump for when your site is on line.

Is URL correct?
3 posted on 02/02/2004 8:48:53 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (A little knowledge is dangerous.-- I live dangerously::))
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To: Congressman Billybob
BTTT; great read, CB; thanks for your post. As usual, very informative (as I can't watch C-Span....I work too much outside the house, lol).
4 posted on 02/02/2004 8:50:07 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Congressman Billybob
How is pre-prepared more prepared than prepared? :-)
5 posted on 02/02/2004 8:50:10 PM PST by xrp
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks for the Stupid Question, Senator Dayton.

Some senators didn't get rich by being stupid, tho they are. They inherited it.

imo, Senators Dayton and Rockefeller are disgraces to the offices they hold and the states and nation they "serve".

Good luck in your quest, John.
6 posted on 02/02/2004 8:51:16 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ...... /~normsrevenge - FoR California Propositions/Initiatives info...)
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Senators Dayton and Rockefeller and Kennedy are disgraces to the offices they hold and the states and nation they "serve".
7 posted on 02/02/2004 8:52:28 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ...... /~normsrevenge - FoR California Propositions/Initiatives info...)
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To: Congressman Billybob
almost the entire discourse by Senator Dayton demonstrated an ignorance of recent history

This is why the dems lost the Congress, The Senate, White House, the Judiciary in the near future, the majority of governorships, and state houses in only a few years.  We're working on dog-catcher, too.

8 posted on 02/02/2004 8:52:39 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"Think y'all will appreciate this one. It'll save you the trouble of reading David Kay's testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee."

I did appreciate 'this one'.But, everyone SHOULD read David Kay's testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee. Better yet, everyone should LISTEN to the hearing. You miss alot when you can't see the face - hillary's for example - as they ask their questions.

9 posted on 02/02/2004 8:54:26 PM PST by malia (BUSH/CHENEY '04 NEVER FORGET!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"Levin Amendment.” This amendment, sponsored by the self-same Senator, forbade American agencies from employing various kinds of “bad guys,” war criminals and the like, as sources." "In short, Senator Levin was complaining about a failure that led directly and inescapably from his own amendment to America’s intelligence laws."

Shhhhh........no one's supposed to know that


10 posted on 02/02/2004 8:54:44 PM PST by nuconvert ("Why do you have to be a nonconformist like everybody else?")
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To: Congressman Billybob
when is your primary?
11 posted on 02/02/2004 8:56:05 PM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: nicmarlo
As of last night you could still watch it on your computer.
12 posted on 02/02/2004 8:56:56 PM PST by malia (BUSH/CHENEY '04 NEVER FORGET!)
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To: malia
Yes, but that implies one has access to such a thing~! (Tonight is the most I have been able to be online in.....weeks! : (
13 posted on 02/02/2004 8:59:41 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Congressman Billybob
As the comedian says...

Here's your sign.

14 posted on 02/02/2004 9:03:28 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Congressman Billybob
I firmly believe that the quality of American politics would vastly improve if world-class instances of congressional stupidity were widely reported.

This requires fewer world class instances of journalistic stupidity (and laziness and outright dishonesty).

Don't hold your breath.

15 posted on 02/02/2004 9:05:41 PM PST by irv
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To: All
An excellent read!!! While we are on the subject, does anybody have a link to a transcript of the Q/A portion of Kay's testimony? There were some golden moments!
16 posted on 02/02/2004 9:13:05 PM PST by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I am restrained from giving my true thoughts on the mental capabilities of many of our "Civil Servants" in Congress and at the State and local level......

The "Admin Moderator" has cautioned me on "language"....

Without profanity - I am nearly mute.

Semper Fi
17 posted on 02/02/2004 9:22:18 PM PST by river rat (Militant Islam is a cult, flirting with extinction)
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To: Congressman Billybob
INTREP - demoRAT lunacy - is there a full-moon?
18 posted on 02/02/2004 9:22:59 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: GeronL
The NC election law is still in flux as of this minute. Odds are, my primary will be in September. Thanks for asking.

John / Billybob

19 posted on 02/02/2004 9:23:11 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: OkiMusashi
Reminds me of when the colorful CIA man Dewey Clarridge testified before a Ted Kennedy committee in the 80s about the mining of Nicaragua's harbors. When Sen. Kennedy (D-Glenfiddich) asked him how many innocent people died from those mines, he replied, "One less than at Chappaquidick, Senator."
20 posted on 02/02/2004 9:24:15 PM PST by BroncosFan (Howard Dean, M.D. -- coming soon to a state near you!)
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