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To: InvisibleChurch
Professor wants all to read one Bible
Navarre
2 posted on
01/24/2004 6:10:08 AM PST by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
To: InvisibleChurch
There are lumpers and there are splitters.
To: InvisibleChurch
Beware of the ones who would have you be of one purse...
the same could be said of those who would have you be of one verse....
5 posted on
01/24/2004 6:20:48 AM PST by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: InvisibleChurch
Ironic. The Geneva Bible was unpopular with the English Monarchy, because it seemed to diminish the earthly authority of Kings. So, James I ordered a new translation of the Bible, and decreed that everyone must read that new translation.
The Puritans held on to their Geneva Bible and eventually arose in revolt and killed King Charles I. The Puritans eventually faded and the King James Bible once again assumed its place as "the" Bible -- for some of the people.
Now we have a new effort to get everyone to read one Bible. Didn't work before. Won't work now.I'd say getting people to read ANY Bible would be a more worthwhile effort.
10 posted on
01/24/2004 6:36:04 AM PST by
ClearCase_guy
(I'm having an apotheosis of freaking desuetude)
To: InvisibleChurch
That's nice, but I'll stick with my KJV.
11 posted on
01/24/2004 6:38:29 AM PST by
rdb3
(If Jesse Jack$on and I meet, face to face, it's gonna be a misunderstanding...)
To: InvisibleChurch
You can read 8 different Bibles with out a ounce of revelation without the Holy Spirit
13 posted on
01/24/2004 6:42:13 AM PST by
apackof2
(I won't be satisfied until I am to smart for my own good)
To: InvisibleChurch
Sure. Of course, to be PC, this "Bible" would have to have all gender-specific references removed, all condemnations of homosexuality excised, and a few additions to the words of Christ (to encourage cooperation with taxing authorities, for example).
Don't the Scriptures warn of men rewriting the Word of God in the end times?
14 posted on
01/24/2004 6:48:23 AM PST by
IronJack
To: InvisibleChurch
I have the PARALLEL BIBLE. Four translations all across two pages at once. I use it quite a bit but my King James is the one worn out, written on, highlighted, and battered.
19 posted on
01/24/2004 6:57:42 AM PST by
shiva
To: InvisibleChurch
I've got to tell you as an Orthodox Christian, that this idea is a complete non-starter. The Orthodox Churches will never agree on an English translation of the Bible that doesn't reflect their understanding of the meaning of the canonical texts. Whether this ESV would do so, I don't know. But I'd be very surprised to hear that it does.
To: InvisibleChurch
I suppose this professor thinks we should all attend one church as well?
To: InvisibleChurch
I kind of like the King James myself. That's what I grew up with. I've read some passages from new versions of the Bible and it just wasn't the same.
I can sort of understand this person's point. Consider the Constitution. I don't see how it could have beeen written much plainer but look at how far apart some of the differing interpretations of that document are. Now imagine if there were a dozen versions of the Constitution. It would be madness.
However, I don't see the professor's idea working though. It would be kind of hard to force on version of the Bible on everybody.
To: InvisibleChurch; rhema; drstevej; Dataman; jude24
John Piper advocates this same thing.
I've studied the ESV, and have very mixed feelings about it. It's "conservative" in both a good and a bad sense. Conservative theologically, in approaching the Bible as it is, the Word of God (good). But conservative also in the sense that it does not change things that, almost beyond rational argument, cry out to be changed. For instance, there simply IS no rational defense for Christian translations continuing the LORD/Lord/Lord GOD insanity, instead of simply saying "Yahweh" when the text says "Yahweh." It's hard to defend translating dikaios as "righteous," but dikaioo as "justify," so that English readers do not know that (A) the words are related and (B) the latter means "to declare righteous."
I could go on and on.
I'd really like to see a thoroughgoing revision of the ESV; but it being so new, that isn't going to happen.
I have found a great deal to like about the Christian Standard Bible, but it paraphrases to a strange degree, and varies Messiah/Christ inexplicably in the NT in rendering Christos. But at least they use "Yahweh"...sometimes!
Dan
35 posted on
01/24/2004 7:38:15 AM PST by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: InvisibleChurch
As far as I am concerned we already have the bible everyone should read, the King James. One passage in the King James can have layer upon layer of meaning, that gets lost in translations.
"Deep calls to deep at the crashing of the waves", in the King James, God is able to pull us into ever deeper waters of understanding. This is lost when there is a flat surface translation.
To: InvisibleChurch
I want only one form of cheese.
In particular, brie.
49 posted on
01/24/2004 7:57:19 AM PST by
Lazamataz
(The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
To: InvisibleChurch
LOL
To: InvisibleChurch
Professor wants all to read one BibleThen we'd all have to stand in line for so long and wait our turn. Can't we at least have two?
64 posted on
01/24/2004 8:11:34 AM PST by
pbear8
(no complaining...Thanks be to God)
To: InvisibleChurch
Considering those behind "new" translations and versions OFTEN have an agenda, I say stick with what we have and chose from that. What's sad is that people are soooo stupid that they can't master an older version or a translation. There are typically concordances available that you can look up words in to pinpoint meanings. Surely using a dictionary isn't THAT difficult! A concordance is just like a dictionary.
66 posted on
01/24/2004 8:12:48 AM PST by
nmh
To: InvisibleChurch
Would be nice IF it were the Dhouay Rheims.
76 posted on
01/24/2004 8:28:52 AM PST by
Smocker
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"You will pray MY way or not at all..."
Sounds a bit like the "theocracy" sand-based religion that we're all familiar with...
Just damn.
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90 posted on
01/24/2004 9:08:21 AM PST by
mhking
To: InvisibleChurch
I'd be happy if everybody just read a Bible.
93 posted on
01/24/2004 9:10:40 AM PST by
Tribune7
(Vote Toomey April 27)
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