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Rush's PERFECT comments Re: Donovan McNabb
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Posted on 01/19/2004 9:26:26 AM PST by Pukin Dog

For those who missed it, Limbaugh performed the most perfect comments on Donovan McNabb this morning by not even mentioning his name.

Instead he contrasted the way that Payton Manning came out and took responsibility for his performance against the way that the media instantly set out to blame the Eagles' wide recievers for what happened to them.

It was the best revenge, because by not mentioning McNabb, no one in the media can say that Rush attacked McNabb, but to all us football fans, what Rush DIDNT say, was LOUD AND CLEAR. Thanks Rush!


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KEYWORDS: junkie; limbaugh; mcnabb; mcoverrated; nfl; rush; rushlimbaugh
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To: CyberCowboy777
Now google for dislocations, broken other parts, ect, so on and so forth.

I'm finished doing your homework for you. Put up or shut up.

301 posted on 01/19/2004 1:02:32 PM PST by Land of the Free 04
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To: LS
See, that's the point: QBs do NOT get a pass in other cities. In Dallas, the fans rip Quincy Carter, despite a 10-6 season with a team figured to win 7 games. Jon Kitna in Cincy gets no love. But McNabbit was the second coming.

McNabb was booed during the draft, and the pressure has not come off him since. If you think Philly fans consider him the second coming, you couldn't be more wrong.

302 posted on 01/19/2004 1:03:16 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: discostu
You NEVER, EVER do this publicly on the field. I lost all respect for McNabb at that moment. You just don't do it.
303 posted on 01/19/2004 1:03:19 PM PST by Tricorn
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To: NittanyLion
badmouthing McNabb?

Try badmouthing the media.

McNabb is a fine average QB.
304 posted on 01/19/2004 1:03:23 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.)
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To: LS
>> And Rush never SAID it had anything to do with his race. What Rush said that the "overrating" part had to do with the liberal writers' desire to have a black QB do well. To me, that is indisputable. They are desperate to have a black head coach take a team to a Super Bowl; to have a black owner; and to have exceptional black QBs to make the league appear "progressive." <<

Horsecrap! That was true back in the Doug Williams days. With McNair, Culpepper, Vick, et. al. playing, it's patently absurd to say that McNabb was overrated because liberal writers wanted to see a black QB do well. There're lots of black QB's doing well.

Not saying that sportswriters aren't PC. Hell, they're probably some of the most PC of the lot. But McNabb's being overrated had nothing to do with his race.

And Rush was an ass for injecting politics into a football pregame show to begin with. I don't want to hear about politics when I watch football. Rush came across like those odious lefties who want to politicize everything.
305 posted on 01/19/2004 1:03:41 PM PST by jaime1959
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To: expatpat
"His [McNabb] scrambling is a big asset, and he's not so hot from the pocket. But also, the Panthers were continually in his face, and no QB does well in that case."

Granted, but McNabb or ANY quarterback MUST check off, adapt to, and neutralize a defense whose game-plan is obviously to blitz often. And even when the Eagles did manage to pick it up, he shuffles his feet way too much in the pocket and doesn't get rid of the ball quickly enough. Some QBs have a great sense about what to do, and how to exploit it. The great ones do. This is a glaring weakness of McNabb's.

306 posted on 01/19/2004 1:04:02 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Tricorn
Not that I'm aware of. Maybe the press did...
307 posted on 01/19/2004 1:06:05 PM PST by golas1964 ("He tasks me... He tasks me and I shall have him!")
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To: Tricorn
BS, the receiver made the crappy play publicly and on the field, no reason not to berate him in the same place. You don't air stuff in public that happened in private but they both new that lame play would be on all the highlight reals and discussed on all the post game shows so there's no reason to pretend it's a private affair. The receiver blew it, made a mistake that high school receivers shouldn't make and killed a good drive and caused a turn over in the process. McNabb should have been pissed at him and the guy should have hung his head in shame, the fact that the bozo receiver was too stupid to even hang his head in shame shows just how terrible the receiving core in Philly is.
308 posted on 01/19/2004 1:07:53 PM PST by discostu (and the tenor sax is blowing its nose)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Someone else had mentioned that as well. I never saw that during the re-plays but it's entirely possible that one of the defensive guys got a hand on him low and nobody saw it. I just take issue with people saying it was a cheap shot (and even the announcers saying it was a late hit) when the whistle never blew.

We discussed it during the live thread. One angle made it look like his own lineman hit him, but the other clearly showed a slap on his knee that put him down.

Like I said though, that's football. The Eagles benefited a few years ago when they knocked Da Bears QB out early in the game on an INT return.

309 posted on 01/19/2004 1:08:44 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Tricorn
His ribs must really have stiffened up on him, though, because after one of his ridiculous interceptions he was quite animated with his gestures in an attempt to show the world that the interception was the receiver's fault. A legend in the making!

I saw that gesture. He was telling all of us out in TV-land "Hey, it wasn't my fault! My receiver is a doofus!"

This is not a good example of leadership.

Then I thought back to the Packers game. The camera was on him several times while he was on the sidelines. He was bundles up in that big cape with his stocking cap on, trying to stay warm, looking disengaged while trying to keep warm. Brett Favre on the other hand,. was trying to get his players jacked up.

Then, before the Panthers game, they had another shot of McNabb in the stocking cap and cape, looking disengaged, trying to keep warm.

I thought, "This is a leader?"

310 posted on 01/19/2004 1:11:08 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: CyberCowboy777
Even Mcnabb played on a broken ankle. He wimped out.

Loss of core strength is different from a broken ankle/wrist, though. Every athlete understands how important it is to have strong abs/lo-back, and how debilitating an injury to the midsection can be. That area plays a huge role in throwing velocity and accuracy.

311 posted on 01/19/2004 1:11:21 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Land of the Free 04
http://www.auburntigers.com/football/page.cfm?doc_id=1103

http://www.photojournalistas.com/Sept-Oct_2002/Part-Time_Gladiators/Story_Pages/ptg_pg5.html

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/10/19/Bucs/The_pain_is_greater_o.shtml

http://www.geocities.com/edmondsjrfootball/history5.html

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/columnists/20001119cook.asp

http://www.arenafootballguide.com/nifl.htm
312 posted on 01/19/2004 1:12:45 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
badmouthing McNabb? Try badmouthing the media.

On that we agree. However, there is a group of folks on this site that desire to run down McNabb for something he had no part in. They should, as you suggest, badmouth the media, who has perpetuated this "controversy".

McNabb is a fine average QB.

Technically average. From a leadership standpoint, far above average. The Eagles aren't the winningest team of the last 4 years by accident...

313 posted on 01/19/2004 1:13:20 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: jaime1959
Since Rush's remark, his critics have injected politics every time they mentioned his name. Rush basically charged the press with racism; their response was to accuse the accuser.

The process for interviewing coaches in the NFL confirms that politics is very much part of the game now. Why is it forbidden to comment about it?
314 posted on 01/19/2004 1:14:15 PM PST by golas1964 ("He tasks me... He tasks me and I shall have him!")
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To: F16Fighter
Some QBs have a great sense about what to do, and how to exploit it. The great ones do. This is a glaring weakness of McNabb's.

I agree with you re pocket-passing, but he IS usually good at exploiting it with his running skills. Not on Sunday, though.

315 posted on 01/19/2004 1:14:47 PM PST by expatpat
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To: NittanyLion
You are going to tell me that separated cartilage is worse than a broken sternum?

He wimped out.
316 posted on 01/19/2004 1:14:55 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Of course you're assuming McNabb made the call to stay out. I haven't heard anything from the Eagle's camp on who made that decision but there are at least 2 other guys on the sideline who could have made that call.
317 posted on 01/19/2004 1:16:20 PM PST by discostu (and the tenor sax is blowing its nose)
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To: All
The NFL is going to have to come up with something in order to save face here. Perhaps they can get the guy who made the hit to come forward and say it was a cheap shot.
318 posted on 01/19/2004 1:16:23 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: CyberCowboy777
You are going to tell me that separated cartilage is worse than a broken sternum? He wimped out.

No, but I'm telling you separated cartilage is likely sufficient to cause loss of throwing velocity and accuracy. Without knowing the exact nature and location of the injury, it's impossible to say. But I'd hardly make the claim that he wimped out, particularly in light of his prior track record.

319 posted on 01/19/2004 1:17:20 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: LS
Absolutely not. A QB who slides FEET FIRST is deemed protected. But a QB who slides any other way---i.e., diving, rolling---is NOT protected. Please read the rules before you post. A QB who has not been down by contact---as the refs said they thought was the case---is free to get up and run or pass, period.

True. And it should be noted that we had a situation two weeks ago in the Colts/Broncos game in which a Colts receiver got back up and ran in for the score while Bronco defenders stood around, assuming he was down. Had McNabb not been hit the second time and he got back up and scrambled for a big play, a lot of people here would be singing a different tune.

320 posted on 01/19/2004 1:17:34 PM PST by SamAdams76
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