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Bush Plans $1.5 Billion Drive for Promotion of Marriage
The New York Times ^ | 01/14/04 | ROBERT PEAR and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 01/13/2004 8:00:06 PM PST by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Jan. 13 — Administration officials say they are planning an extensive election-year initiative to promote marriage, especially among low-income couples, and they are weighing whether President Bush should promote the plan next week in his State of the Union address.

For months, administration officials have worked with conservative groups on the proposal, which would provide at least $1.5 billion for training to help couples develop interpersonal skills that sustain "healthy marriages."

The officials said they believed that the measure was especially timely because they were facing pressure from conservatives eager to see the federal government defend traditional marriage, after a decision by the highest court in Massachusetts. The court ruled in November that gay couples had a right to marry under the state's Constitution.

"This is a way for the president to address the concerns of conservatives and to solidify his conservative base," a presidential adviser said.

Several conservative Christian advocacy groups are pressing Mr. Bush to go further and use the State of the Union address to champion a constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex marriage. Leaders of these groups said they were confused by what they saw as the administration's hedging and hesitation concerning an amendment.

Administration officials said they did not know if Mr. Bush would mention the amendment, but they expressed confidence that his marriage promotion plan would please conservatives.

Ronald T. Haskins, a Republican who has previously worked on Capitol Hill and at the White House under Mr. Bush, said, "A lot of conservatives are very pleased with the healthy marriage initiative."

The proposal is the type of relatively inexpensive but politically potent initiative that appeals to White House officials at a time when they are squeezed by growing federal budget deficits.

It also plays to Mr. Bush's desire to be viewed as a "compassionate conservative," an image he sought to cultivate in his 2000 campaign. This year, administration officials said, Mr. Bush will probably visit programs trying to raise marriage rates in poor neighborhoods.

"The president loves to do that sort of thing in the inner city with black churches, and he's very good at it," a White House aide said.

In the last few years, some liberals have also expressed interest in marriage-education programs. They say a growing body of statistical evidence suggests that children fare best, financially and emotionally, in married two-parent families.

The president's proposal may not be enough, though, for some conservative groups that are pushing for a more emphatic statement from him opposing gay marriage.

"We have a hard time understanding why the reserve," said Glenn T. Stanton, a policy analyst at Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian organization. "You see him inching in the right direction. But the question for us is, why this inching? Why not just get there?"

The Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, chairman of a national group called the Traditional Values Coalition, has started an e-mail campaign urging Mr. Bush to push for an amendment opposing the legal recognition of same-sex marriage.

Other groups, like the Southern Baptist Convention and Focus on the Family, are pushing more quietly for the same thing, through contacts with White House officials, especially Karl Rove, the president's chief political aide, who has taken a personal interest in maintaining contacts with evangelical groups.

In an interview with ABC News last month, Mr. Bush was asked if he would support a constitutional amendment against gay marriage and gay civil unions.

"If necessary," he said, "I will support a constitutional amendment which would honor marriage between a man and a woman, codify that, and will — the position of this administration is that whatever legal arrangements people want to make, they're allowed to make, so long as it's embraced by the state, or does start at the state level."

Asked to cite the circumstances in which a constitutional amendment might be needed, Trent Duffy, a White House spokesman, said on Tuesday, "That is a decision the president has to make in due time."

The House of Representatives has approved a proposal to promote marriage as part of a bill to reauthorize the 1996 welfare law, but the bill is bogged down in the Senate.

Without waiting for Congress to act, the administration has retained consultants to help state and local government agencies, community organizations and religious groups develop marriage-promotion programs.

Wade F. Horn, the assistant secretary of health and human services for children and families, said: "Marriage programs do work. On average, children raised by their own parents in healthy, stable married families enjoy better physical and mental health and are less likely to be poor."

Prof. Linda J. Waite, a demographer and sociologist at the University of Chicago, compiled an abundance of evidence to support such assertions in the book "The Case for Marriage" (Doubleday, 2000). Ms. Waite, a former president of the Population Association of America, said she was a liberal Democrat, but not active in politics.

Some women's groups like the NOW Legal Defense and Education Fund oppose government programs that promote marriage. "Such programs intrude on personal privacy, may ignore the risk of domestic violence and may coerce women to marry," said Timothy J. Casey, a lawyer at the fund.

Administration officials said their goal was "healthy marriage," not marriage for its own sake.

"We know this is a sensitive area," Dr. Horn said. "We don't want to come in with a heavy hand. All services will be voluntary. We want to help couples, especially low-income couples, manage conflict in healthy ways. We know how to teach problem-solving, negotiation and listening skills. This initiative will not force anyone to get or stay married. The last thing we'd want is to increase the rate of domestic violence against women."

Under the president's proposal, federal money could be used for specific activities like advertising campaigns to publicize the value of marriage, instruction in marriage skills and mentoring programs that use married couples as role models.

Federal officials said they favored premarital education programs that focus on high school students; young adults interested in marriage; engaged couples; and unmarried couples at the moment of a child's birth, when the parents are thought to have the greatest commitment to each other.

Alan M. Hershey, a senior fellow at Mathematica Policy Research in Princeton, N.J., said his company had a $19.8 million federal contract to measure the effectiveness of such programs for unwed parents. Already, Mr. Hershey said, he is providing technical assistance to marriage-education projects in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, New Mexico and Texas.

A major purpose, he said, is to help people "communicate about money, sex, child-raising and other difficult issues that come up in their relationships."

Dr. Horn said that federal money for marriage promotion would be available only to heterosexual couples. As a federal official, he said, he is bound by a 1996 statute, the Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage for any program established by Congress. The law states, "The word `marriage' means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife."

But Dr. Horn said: "I don't have any problem with the government providing support services to gay couples under other programs. If a gay couple had a child and they were poor, they might be eligible for food stamps or cash assistance."

Sheri E. Steisel, a policy analyst at the National Conference of State Legislatures, said, "The Bush administration has raised this issue to the national level, but state legislators of both parties are interested in offering marriage education and premarital counseling to low-income couples."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; homosexualagenda; marriage; mathematica; sotu; wadehorn
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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: F16Fighter
The next GOP Administration "election-year initiate" will be another $2 billion boondoggle to "promote safe sex while driving."

LOL!

42 posted on 01/13/2004 9:41:37 PM PST by NRA2BFree (PMS 24-7 own a gun. Specialize in RAT extermination. 1-800-KILLEM4U :-))
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To: Pokey78
This just in.

BRITNEY SPEARS to head coalition !

43 posted on 01/13/2004 9:46:31 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: Hank Rearden
Lighten up, man. You have no reason to be angry with me. I had three comments, none of which should anger you:

1) I'm a bit surprised to see one of my former clients/friends "in the news"

2) Family is a bedrock of our society

3) Our government is growing too large

That's it. I haven't said whether I approve of the government spending money on this program. Frankly, I think private organizations should handle this, including the National Fatherhood Initiative, the non-profit founded by Wade Horn.

Cut the sarcasm.
44 posted on 01/13/2004 9:52:05 PM PST by Theo
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To: All
1. Think Faith-Based initiative
2. Don't jump to the conclusion that all this funding will go to useless bureaucrats
3. Think Welfare-Reform
4. In 2004, Presidents spend executive orders to enact targeted "legislation". Period.
5. Targets of executive orders include
a. doing good
b. getting reelected

The calculation of "compassionate conservatism" starts with social spending. Constitutional or not (I think not, but that is, unfortunately, irrelevant), We The People have voted to use public funds for a social safety net. Due to a horrible miscalculation, Welfare destroyed marriage and a few other healthy institutions in a segment of our population. Conservatives have much better know-how to use those funds to do good than the know-nothing liberals. We wouldn't have done it in the first place. We screamed: do not expand the role of the federal government!It will marginalize institutions such as church! Too late. Now we have to try to fix it.

45 posted on 01/13/2004 10:12:00 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Theo
Frankly, I think private organizations should handle this, including the National Fatherhood Initiative, the non-profit founded by Wade Horn.

Yup. Tell him to get off the taxpayer tit, quit, and go do that again. Why's he on the government dole, anyway?

And I wasn't being sarcastic. I'm sick of the billions of ways Big Stupid Republican Government has of spending our money on Deputy Assistant Undersecretary Assistant Deputy parasites.

46 posted on 01/13/2004 10:16:48 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Pokey78
$1,500,000,000.00 ($1.5 billion) of public money for a political issue?

If President Bush is going to pander for votes, why not pour $1,500,000,000,000.00 ($1.5 trillion) down the pander pipe?

47 posted on 01/13/2004 10:26:04 PM PST by thinktwice
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To: Pokey78
My wallet wants to ask Dubya for a divorce, because the relationship is clearly abusive.
48 posted on 01/13/2004 10:42:07 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: little jeremiah
Being the President is a tough job.

The tragedy of the divorce rate makes marriage look like it's in the dumps; and some folks state we shouldn't complain about homosexual marriage because marriage is in the dumps. It's been said by some that we should clean up marriage first before complaining about homosexual marriage. But when Bush starts talking about helping folks better deal with the issues of marriage, Bush gets blasted for trying. Obviously Bush can't please all the people even some of the time, not even those who may vote for him.

Being the President is a tough job.

50 posted on 01/13/2004 10:57:30 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
Yeah, I know, I was kind of critical. I really do like Bush - I think he is one of the best presidents we have had, and I thank God from the bottom of my heart that he is the President instead of (shudder) the other one....

I just am so cynical about government programs; and the amount of money that sticks to thousands of beaurocratic hands in between the taxpayer and the destined recipient.

I'd rather see other incentives promoting marriage such as more tax reductions, including for children, tax reductions when there is a stay at home mother, ditto for homeschooled children, maybe some kind of encouragement for faith based marriage counseling, and how about the 10 Commandments being posted here and there? Tighten up divorce, so people can't split up so easily. Abstinence promotion. When people get married but they've already had numerous sex partners, their hearts and minds are already hardened and it's harder to bond emotionally and spiritually with their spouse. It's already "easy come, easy go".

Good night!
51 posted on 01/13/2004 11:20:27 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Pokey78
I had rather he spend that on a drive to put our missile defense system in place. That is the most critical need the USofA has and it sure fell off the radar screen.

When our enemy, Germany, sends it's Defense Minister to China to discuss ways to prevent such a defensive plan I think we should attach as much importance into seeing the prospect realized as they are into preventing it's realization.
52 posted on 01/13/2004 11:36:08 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: little jeremiah
I didn't think you were too critical at all, and it is a lot of money. The point behind my post was that some folks complain we don't do enough about fixing marriage and when somebody tries, others don't like it. You just can't please all of the people all the the time. You can't even please some of the people all of the time.

What I'd like to see, and it will never happen, is folks having to take classes on child rearing as a requirement to having kids. That's what we had to do when we adopted, and it was difficult having to go through all that, especially since we already knew it from too much preparation. Yet some who can and do have kids don't know the first thing about raising kids.

You made some really good points that I have to wholeheartedly agree with. Parents really need to do a better job of raising their kids and training them to be responsible parents themselves.

Back to an earlier comment: With a new well pump, two new pressure tanks, the help of a plumber and $1400 later, we have water again.

Good night!

53 posted on 01/13/2004 11:44:10 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: ambrose
*SOME* things are *WORTH* spending money on, like *PRESERVING* the *SANCTITY* of marriage!!!!
54 posted on 01/13/2004 11:51:43 PM PST by Sir Valentino
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To: bvw
What he is saying is that no one will be forced to get married or stay married IN AN ABUSIVE SITUATION.

It does NOT say marriage causes abuse.

Perhaps reading comprehension will be the next thing needed in this country.
55 posted on 01/13/2004 11:58:26 PM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: bvw
"Administration officials said their goal was "healthy marriage," not marriage for its own sake.

"We know this is a sensitive area," Dr. Horn said. "We don't want to come in with a heavy hand. All services will be voluntary. We want to help couples, especially low-income couples, manage conflict in healthy ways. We know how to teach problem-solving, negotiation and listening skills. This initiative will not force anyone to get or stay married. The last thing we'd want is to increase the rate of domestic violence against women."


56 posted on 01/14/2004 12:02:11 AM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: ohioWfan; Salvation; NutCrackerBoy
OhioWfan "Solving the problems in marriages and the families will go a long way to solving the overall problems in our society.
If there is ANYTHING worth spending money on, IMO, it is this"

I agree with all three of you. This is a very good idea. Ohio, this will indeed help most of our societal problems.

The hate group around here is getting really vile. Perhaps this initiative would have taught them a few things had we had it years ago. Our nation is so spoiled and self-centered, as evidenced by the hate on this very thread, not to mention the immigration ones.

There is no "greater good" understanding in so many people.

I am all for this initiative.

BTW, Ohio, I would have recognized you in this post, even if your name wasn't displayed! (isn't it hard sometimes to leave the peaceful atmosphere of the Dose?!!!!)
57 posted on 01/14/2004 12:22:52 AM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: seamole
Excellent comments,

The elitest Bush is going to spend $1,500,000,000 dollars on a freaking program to promote marriage! And that is the red meat he throwing to conservatives, to shore up his base. How stupid does he think we are. Wait a minute, he wants those 12 million illegals toget married and have kids, now I understand. That will quicken our desent into third would s hole status.

He might want to use it on the 1,000,000,000,000 dollar mission to Mars he proposed too. Where the hell is all this money going to come from?

58 posted on 01/14/2004 12:27:24 AM PST by jpsb (")
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To: scripter
[some folks complain we don't do enough about fixing marriage]

The government has no business mucking around with the sacrament of marriage. Marriage is the business of the church not the government. Get government out of the marriage business!

59 posted on 01/14/2004 12:30:57 AM PST by jpsb (")
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