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Islam, a Religion of PeaceĀ®? Some links...
various FR links | 01-06-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 01/06/2004 7:32:40 AM PST by backhoe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1050959/posts
What they're saying about "Onward Muslim Soldiers" - An expose of militant Islam.
JihadWatch ^
The FREEPERS Guide To Islamic Terror Websites - CYBERTERRORISM (And It's Sponsors)
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052371/posts
Palestinian Children Say the Deadliest Things
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 1/06/04 | Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook, Jerusalem Post
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1051593/posts
The Myth of Mecca (oldie but goodie)
pol usa ^ | 9/27/2001 | By Jack Wheeler
 
 
 
 
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1051748/posts
THE MYSTERIOUS ACHMED HUBER: FRIEND TO HITLER, ALLAH . . . AND BIN LADEN? - Islam/Nazi link
InterActivist Info Exchange ^ | April/May 2002 | Kevin Coogan
Make no mistake, there is a crusade going on...but it isn't being perpetrated by the West. It's called Jihad, and eliminating the "American way of life" is its goal.
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1051784/posts
Draining the Arab Swamp--The Middle East after Saddam
Foreign Policy Research Institute/Frontpagemagazine ^ | January 5, 2004 | Kenneth M. Pollack
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052361/posts
ANTI-TERROR TO-DO'S
New York Post ^ | 1/05/04 | PETER BROOKES
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052337/posts
Report: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, January 6, 2004
http://www.debka.com/
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052348/posts
Al-Qaida planned US blitz (Al Qaeda)
Austraila Herald Sun ^ | Jan. 4, 2004 | Ben English
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052342/posts
Masquerading as 'mainstream': How extremist Muslims intimidate press, true moderates
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, January 6, 2004 | Sherrie Gossett
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052295/posts
Blasts hit southern Thailand [Mujahedin Islamist separatist movement blamed]
BBC ^ | 1/5/04 | BBC
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052142/posts?page=7#7
Onward Muslim Soldiers
Out Post ^ | jan 2004 | Hugh Fitzgerald
 
 
 
 
 
 
Offal from Klintoon mis-administration
 
 
WSJ Opinion Journal
WSJ ^ | 1/5/04 | James Taranto
His opening article makes an important point -- that there's a real link between the pro-Saddam, anti-American people our left wing and the pro-Saddam, anti-American terrorists in the Middle East. They all believe the U. S. is the root of all evil.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Smuggling alien interests? (Arabs through Mexico)
Washington Times ^ | 1/5/04 | Terence Jeffrey
...we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 million to 12 million illegals...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

SHE BOMBER
Mirror ^ | 1-3-04 | Edwards, Smith, Knight
"Everybody get back! She got a loaded beaver!"
 
 
Weird Plot of Womb Bomber (The latest depravity by TROP™)
The New York Post ^ | January 4, 2004 | Brian Blomquist and Andy Geller
 
 
 
 
Palestinian Refugees: Championed by Arab World Yet Treated Like Outcasts
The Daily Camera [Boulder CO] ^ | January 4, 2004 | Paul Garwood and Maggie Michael [Associated Press]
 
 
Nigeria Police Clash with Islamic Militants
VOA News ^ | 03 Jan 2004, 17:18 UTC | Some information for this report provided by AP and Reuters.
 
 
 
 
 
Wesley Clark's Ties To Muslim Terrorists
AIM Report ^ | September 17, 2003 | Cliff Kincaid
 
 
You had better take this stuff seriously, folks:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Global anti-Semitism
The Washington Times ^ | December 31, 2003 | Arnold Beichman
 
 
 
 
 
 
Prophet Of Doom
Interview with the author on Ernie Brown - America At Night 12/26/03 ^ | FREE online version available now / Hard Cover available early 2004 | Craig Winn
 
 
...Recently, my hometown newspaper featured a front page article by none other than a muslim professor teaching at our local college. His article, of course, was against the war in Iraq and was anti-American. I just shuddered because I know 90% of the people in our town disagree with everything he said and everything he stands for but few will say anything because of political correctness. Also, his status as a professor protects him. Homeland security had better be monitoring EVERY mideast "professional" who has come to this country over the past 30 years. This is war and it is here.
 
 
Takeoffs Continued Until Second Jet Hit Trade Center, Transcripts Show
NYTimes ^ | December 30, 2003 | JIM DWYER
You know, I think we all blew it. Everybody.
Just like what's going on Pakistan right now.
Three months ago I read from an Iranian student that AQ next move would be to aquire Paks Nukes. I have raised that info on this forum many times but no one seemed interested ...
 
 
The Year America Stood Up
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Tuesday, December 30, 2003 | GEORGE MELLOAN
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you want to understand the Middle East conflict, Iran has just provided all you need to know.   A massive earthquake kills between 20,000 and 40,000 Iranians, and the government of Iran announces that help is welcome from every country in the world … except Israel.
 


My primer on terror:

-Time to kick the tires & light the fires, folks- terrorism gathers across the World...--

-All Terror, All the Time-- FR's links to NBC Warfare, Terror, and More...--

-Jihad! Across the World....--

-IRAQ- some links to terror--

-The Web of Terror--

Nuclear, Biological, & Chemical Warfare- Survival Skills, Pt. II

-Terror Tips--

-The Fire Down South...( Latin America--)--

Castro, the Carribean, and Terrorism

-The Poor-Boy Nuke-- Bioterrorism***

-Jemaah Islamiah- Islamic Community, or Islamic Threat?--

 

I fear another 9/11 may happen before America realizes this isn't just a few guys from across the pond ... there is an agenda and there are networks ... and they're here ...
 
 
For many more links, go to the "last" here & work backwards:
DUBOB 11- more tales from the Dark UnderBelly Of the Beast...
various links and websites | 01-31-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy


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Howard blasts terror 'pussyfoots'
 
Some Muslims 'don't share Aussie values'

1,181 posted on 09/10/2006 9:37:17 AM PDT by backhoe (Has that Clinton "legacy" made you feel safer... yet?)
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Teachers in Thailand under fire -- and learning to shoot back

1,182 posted on 09/10/2006 11:01:51 AM PDT by backhoe
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Against the West - Obsession (Radical Islam's War Against The West)
 
9/11 Whitewash Watch: "We're the Most Oppressed People in the World"

Mainstream media continues running interference for the agenda of radical Islam, in yet another piece citing CAIR’s bogus hate crime accusations: ‘They think if you’re a Muslim, you’re a terrorist’. (Hat tip: carefulnow.)  link: 121 comments  "We're also the world's biggest friggin' liars."

AL QAEDA'S ZAWAHRI, IN NEW VIDEO, SAYS ARAB GULF STATES, ISRAEL TO BE TARGETED

FLASHBACK: 1996 Bin Laden's Fatwa, Declaration of War against Americans

FLASHBACK: Gore supports "Final Reckoning" with Iraq; Says represents virulent threat

Iraq How-to Manual Directed Arab Military Operatives In Afghanistan (Just for a flashback moment)

Why your bank thinks you're a terrorist--Check out this application from the government website. YOU ARE A "SUSPECT" if you withdraw 5K from your account. Mind-blowing document. pdf file.
http://www.fdic.gov/formsdocuments/6710-06.pdf

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=50052
"9/11: The Philippine Connection part 4


1,183 posted on 09/11/2006 6:19:50 AM PDT by backhoe
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Terrorist Heroshima in America?

Notice to  liberals:

Here's what life would be like under Islamic rule:

1) No more abortions
2) No gay marriage; homosexuals put to death
3) Capital punishment on an epic scale
4) No women's rights; women may not go to school or hold a job.
5) No religious freedoms for Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Wiccans or others. Eventually, all will be forced to convert (revert) to Islam or be killed.
6) The elimination of science & scientific inquiry, to be replaced by strict Koranic study.
7)Absolute centralization of authority in the hands of mullahs, imams & religious scholars.
8) No separation of mosque & state. They are one & the same.
9) The elimination of trial by jury.
10) The elimination of the right to vote, as democracy is an affront to Muslims.

That's just for starters.


Continuing with what life would be like under Islamic rule:

11) No music
12) No art depicting humans or animals
13) No women's fashion - no make-up
14) No alcohol
15) No pre-marital sex
16) No such thing as Domestic Violence - can legally beat wife/wives
17) No more back pain - forced to pray 5 times a day
18) No more sleeping in - rise and shine, morning prayers
19) No more damn women drivers - oops, sorry if that was insensitive
20) No more toilet paper - environmentally friendly advantage

21) No more left-handers
22) No more vegetarians
23) No more animal rights - sorry PETA
24) No more need for progress - Great Leap Backwards to 7th Century
25) No more need for English - must learn Arabic to read Koran
26) No more soccer
27) Free copies of best selling book by Adolph Hitler - Mein Kampf, now Jihadi
28) No need for critical thinking - cradle to grave taught how to act and think
29) No more messy divorces - man says 3 times "I divorce you" and it's final
30) No need for daughters/sisters to find men - can be given away


1,184 posted on 09/12/2006 1:11:39 PM PDT by backhoe
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AL-QAEDA'S MR. NUCLEAR TO HEAD FRESH ATTACK ON U.S.

1,185 posted on 09/12/2006 4:31:02 PM PDT by backhoe
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Al Qaeda Nuke Attack Set For Ramadan?

Could it be?  Al Qaeda planning nuke attack for Ramadan


A couple of points:

1. Hamid Mir, the reporter with whom this story originated, is the only journalist to have interviewed Bin Laden after 9/11. Obviously, his sources would be in a position to know what the top ranks of AQ are thinking. He’s been consistent, too: I wrote a post in late May about an interview Mir had given in which he identified Al Qaeda’s nuclear ambitions and even the operative they’ve entrusted to mastermind the attack — Adnan al-Shukrijumah, who inspired a special national terror APB by the FBI back in 2002. Mir’s story is the same today as it was four months ago. The only difference is that now he’s got a target date for the attack. Ramadan, 2006.

2. Would AQ really leak news of a massive attack before it happened? See for yourself. It’s about 30 seconds in, right after the segment on Shanksville. I’d completely forgotten until I saw the footage again yesterday.





3. The Blotter has run not one but two stories about Shukrijumah in the past five days. The only “news” in both stories was that the FBI is looking for him but still hasn’t found him. From September 7th:
Shukrijumah is suspected to have had contacts with 9/ll hijack leader Mohammed Atta before leaving the United States shortly before the attacks…

Virtually every one of the FBI’s 56 field offices are involved in the hunt, according to Stuart McArthur, the assistant Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Miami field office, who heads up the bureau’s hunt for Shukrijumah.

Why would they run two stories when there’s no actual news to report?

The Blotter has good sources inside the intelligence community and likes to be ahead of the curve with terrorism stories. Last month, they ran a piece on alleged UK terror plot mastermind Matiur Rehman the day before arrests were made and the plot was publicly revealed. Clearly they’d been tipped to the impending raids and wanted to get in on the ground floor of the story. The fact that they’re putting Shukrijumah’s name out there when there is, to all appearances, no new information about him makes me think their sources are very concerned about him right now, and Brian Ross and co. either don’t know why or they do know and are sitting on sensitive details while the feds try to break up the plot. It’s still probably a false alarm, but I’d raise the worry meter from blue to yellow.

Keep your eye on this one.


Read the rest at Hot Air.

Permanent Link | Posted by Pastorius at 2:21:00 AM

Al-Qaeda from the inside out

Intelligence Failure In The Senate (Saddam and al-Qaida)

+ Its In the Koran!

Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracies, Already --this site offers the best story about how that viral video "Loose Change" got started.
 
 How Muslims Think--Daniel Pipes Commentary
 
“The Wahhabi Invasion of America”
 
The ISM-Terror Connection

The father of all fauxtography

By Michelle Malkin   ·   September 12, 2006 03:54 PM

The staging of pro-terrorist photos for the theater of jihad has been going on a long time.

I've blogged before about a notorious incident involving iconic images of a Palestinian boy, Mohammed al Doura, broadcast by French state-owned television in 2000. The boy was allegedly gunned down by Israeli soldiers. But as Nidra Poller and David Gelernter, among others, have reported, the truth was not on the terror sympathizers' side.

See also Pallywood and the investigation by Richard Landes here.

Now France-2 TV is suing critics of the Mohammed Dura video for defamation. The trial starts 9/14. Pesach Benson is blogging.

Pajamas Media is covering the trial, with exclusive reporting from Nidra Poller.

Richard Landes will also be trial-blogging at at Augean Stables.

And IHC writes:


1,186 posted on 09/13/2006 5:23:01 AM PDT by backhoe
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Al Qaeda Will Nuke US in Late September (According To A Pakistani Journalist)
Dutch Justice Minister OK with Shari'a

Holland’s Justice Minister welcomes his new Islamic overlords: Minister Welcomes Sharia In Netherlands If Majority Wants It. (Hat tip: Fjordman.)  link: 249 comments  "So, Minister Donner, how about if 2/3 of the Dutch population should want to re-introduce slavery? Any problem with that?"

From Quadrant Magazine Australia via Hodja's Blog

"One day, however, we shall experience a terrible national pain—awakening, for example, to the equivalent of the London bombings of July last year, or the French riots of last October; and we shall ask ourselves, “How did it come to this?”

Islamic TV Channel Growing [Michigan]

Evidence: Saddam did have al-Qaida ties Documents contradict Senate conclusion to the contrary

PICTURE PROOF: The Saddam-Al Qaeda Connections

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

My anthrax survivor's story

9/11 Conspiracy Theories: The 9/11 Truth Movement in Perspective [A comprhensive rebuttal]

Popular Mechanics Takes On 9/11 Conspiracy Nutjobs! (VIDEO)

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NCSTAR1-6ExecutiveSummary.pdf

The Path to 9/11--A Postmortem(Victor Davis Hanson)

1,187 posted on 09/13/2006 1:06:31 PM PDT by backhoe
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The West's choice : Courage or collapse
 
 
 The Allies! Click the Pic!
 
Breeding Self-Hatred and Self-Destruction
 
'Hezbollah youth scouts' train in terrorism

1,188 posted on 09/14/2006 5:05:01 AM PDT by backhoe
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The Downfall of the Netherlands
 
Expert: No peace with Muslims, ever
 
Teachers in Thailand turn to guns
 
Latest al-Qaeda tape made France a target
 
Here is the URL to my blog post:
Something to Ponder: Has Radical Feminism Paved the Way for Islam in America? - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/feminismandislam/
 

Jihadists behead photographer in Jammu & Kashmir

The misunderstanders of Islam are busy in India these days. "Abducted photographer beheaded in J&K," from the Times of India, with thanks to Arjun: Posted by Robert at 12:43 PM | Comments (28) |

RoP Irony Watch

Indian authorities in Kashmir have seized newspapers carrying the story of the Pope’s suggestion that Islam may encourage violence, fearing violence from Muslims: India seizes papers with pope’s Islam criticismlink: 52 comments

Who The Terror Apologists Support

Here’s an interesting post at Say Anything, revealing that more than three quarters of House Democrats have been given the seal of approval by radical Islamic front group CAIR: Who The Terror Apologists Support.

UPDATE at 9/14/06 3:13:23 pm:

Rusty notes that CAIR’s rating numbers are all either 0% or 100%, and speculates that the ratings might stem from a single vote on an issue CAIR considered important.

UPDATE at 9/14/06 3:20:37 pm:

Here’s the full list: Project Vote Smart - Council on American-Islamic Relations Ratingslink: 79 comments

Forward to the Past- Moslem progress---Assessing the Islamist Threat, Circa 1946

The case for limiting Muslim immigration


1,189 posted on 09/14/2006 4:03:34 PM PDT by backhoe
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Report: Italian Writer Oriana Fallaci Dies

Italian Writer Oriana Fallaci Dies

The current invasion, Fallaci went on to say, is not carried out only by the "terrorists who blow up themselves along with skyscrapers or buses" but also by "the immigrants who settle in our home, and who, with no respect for our laws, impose their ideas, their customs, their God."
 

Khamenei: Islam's "eternal lessons" are "faith, resolve, jihad"

Khamenei emphasizes that these are the "lessons" of Islam to all of humanity. From the Islamic Republic News Agency: "Supreme Leader considers faith, resolve, Jihad as Islam's eternal lessons" Comments (4)

Mahathir Mohamad: "There is No Such Thing As a Moderate Muslim"

Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad says, “there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.”

Nice of him to clear that up for us. link: 167 comments

This Just In: Pope Angers Muslims

Seething, whining, you know the drill. Pope’s speech stirs Muslim anger. (Hat tip: sngnsgt.)

About those doctored and staged photographs...

Thursday, September 14, 2006

Mahathir Mohamad: "There is No Such Thing As a Moderate Muslim"

Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad says, “there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.”

Nice of him to clear that up for us.

“What is happening today has got nothing to do with religion. It has got to do with territorial disputes, mainly the dispute over Palestinian land,” he told Reuters after a religious congress here.

He said Bush’s description of America’s “war on terror” as “a struggle for civilisation” on the fifth anniversary of the attacks was flawed, as was the West’s hope that moderate Muslims would have a dominant voice.

“There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim,” he said. “We are fundamentalists in Malaysia. We follow the true teachings of the religion and the true teachings do not teach us to bomb and kill people without reason.”

Although most of the men who carried out the Sept 11 attacks were Saudis, Mahathir - whom Israel has in the past dubbed anti-Semitic - said he saw the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands as the root cause of Islamist extremism.

“They (the hijackers) had no direct link but there is a great deal of sympathy for the sufferings of the people of Palestine,” he said. “Maybe that is because they are co-religionists but it is not because their religion urges them to do so. The West tends to blame religion, they blame Islam for whatever happens and associate Islam with terrorism,” he said.

He said he believed dubbing a fight against Islamic extremism as a struggle for civilisation risked becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. “(Muslims) are without arms, they are weak and they are pushed into a corner. If you are pushed into a corner and the only thing you can do is bite, you bite,” he said. ...

“When you target Muslim countries, other Muslims get angry and they try to retaliate the only way they can, by bombing or maybe attempts to blow up aircraft and so you think that these Muslims are really bad,” Mahathir said.

“But think first what you have done to them and then you will realise that if you were in their position you would do the same thing.”

Any questions?


LGF Exclusive: Rare Camel Jockey Photos

An LGF reader forwarded these photographs after reading our post about the suit against the Governor of Dubai for enslaving thousands of children as jockeys for camel races.

I visited the Middle East multiple times in the 90’s on business. These are pictures I took when our host took us to visit the camel racing track. We visited the track on a Friday and there were no races on their holy day. Our host told us many of the boys were Sudanese, and that their parents sent them to race camels because their children would get fed and cared for. He said the boys lived in the stables with the camels and the older boys looked after the younger ones. You can see how young the one in the picture appears to be. Maybe 5 years old? The visit was short, and conversation from me and my colleagues was pretty nonexistent. When we discussed this later, (without our host), we were appalled and uncomprehending. I always refused any invitations to the camel races. The least I could do is not support the practice with my attendance.


This Just In: Pope Angers Muslims

Seething, whining, you know the drill. Pope’s speech stirs Muslim anger. (Hat tip: sngnsgt.)

Muslim religious leaders have accused Pope Benedict XVI of quoting anti-Islamic remarks during a speech at a German university this week.

Questioning the concept of holy war, he quoted a 14th-Century Christian emperor who said Muhammad had brought the world only “evil and inhuman” things.

A senior Pakistani Islamic scholar, Javed Ahmed Gamdi, said jihad was not about spreading Islam with the sword. Turkey’s top religious official asked for an apology for the “hostile” words. In Indian-administered Kashmir, police seized copies of newspapers which reported the Pope’s comments to prevent any tension.

A Vatican spokesman, Father Frederico Lombardi, said he did not believe the Pope’s comments were meant as a harsh criticism of Islam. ...

The Pope is due to visit Turkey in November and the Turkish response was swift and strong, the BBC’s Sarah Rainsford reports from Istanbul. Religious leader Ali Bardakoglu said the Pope’s comments represented what he called an “abhorrent, hostile and prejudiced point of view”.

Whilst Muslims might express their criticism of Islam and of Christianity, he argued, they would never defame the Holy Bible or Jesus Christ. He said he hoped the Pope’s speech did not reflect “hatred in his heart” against Islam.

Many Turks see Benedict as a Turkophobe and commentators call his words just before the holy month of Ramadan “ill-timed and ill-conceived”, our correspondent adds.

UPDATE at 9/14/06 9:20:52 pm:   This can't be an official statement from a Muslim religious leader -- it's missing the veiled threat... Just curious...is there anything that DOESN'T get the Muslims seething/whining/burning/beheading, etc?

More seething courtesy of al-Reuters, where they identify jihadist cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi only as a “prominent Muslim scholar:” Muslim leaders condemn Pope’s speech, want apology. (Hat tip: Allahpundit.)   link: 256 comments

LGF Exclusive: Rare Camel Jockey Photos

An LGF reader forwarded these photographs after reading our post about the suit against the Governor of Dubai for enslaving thousands of children as jockeys for camel races.

I visited the Middle East multiple times in the 90’s on business. These are pictures I took when our host took us to visit the camel racing track. We visited the track on a Friday and there were no races on their holy day. Our host told us many of the boys were Sudanese, and that their parents sent them to race camels because their children would get fed and cared for. He said the boys lived in the stables with the camels and the older boys looked after the younger ones. You can see how young the one in the picture appears to be. Maybe 5 years old? The visit was short, and conversation from me and my colleagues was pretty nonexistent. When we discussed this later, (without our host), we were appalled and uncomprehending. I always refused any invitations to the camel races. The least I could do is not support the practice with my attendance.

Pakistan Airline poster from 1979

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701803/posts
"Has Michigan Become Tracfonistan?"

http://www.tbo.com/news/nationworld/MGBHM8G8YRE.html
"The Web As A Weapon"

A Failed Former President (Carter -- Iran history)

1,190 posted on 09/15/2006 4:27:29 AM PDT by backhoe
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Victor Davis Hanson: Those Saudi Students. It’s not irrational to be wary of this deal
 

The "Debunking 9-11" Debate--  Here is the link to the transcript of this debate.


1,191 posted on 09/15/2006 5:46:36 AM PDT by backhoe
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" When is the world going to wake up to this?
They are always demanding, threatening, killing, blaming their killing on someone else, they are always insulted (yet they insult the whole world), they act like Nazi's but call everyone else Nazi's. Enough I say."
The 14th worldwide meltdown of Muslims caused by Pope
This Just In: Muslims Furious
 "To say that Islam is intolerant cannot be tolerated!"

Muslims in uproar over pope’s remarks on Islam.
Muslims deplore Pope speech, want apology.
Muslims express fury over pope’s remarks.
Turkish lawmaker compares pope to Hitler.
Muslims assail pope’s remarks on Islam.
Pakistan parliament demands Pope retract Islam comments.
Pope branded a medieval crusader in India.
Muslims demand pope apologise for Islam comments.

" Gee, that's surprising."

Muslims express fury over pope's remarks

This AP image is making the rounds.
muslimfuryatPope.jpg
"How dare you say Muhammad spread his faith by the sword?"


What is the over/under for increased rage after Friday sermons?

Posted by Anne at 11:36 AM | Comments (117)

Islam On Benedict

BBC;

The head of the Muslim Brotherhood said the Pope's remarks "aroused the anger of the whole Islamic world".


Muslims reacting in anger. How can that be ???

Fox News quotes Pakistan's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam ;

"Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence".


h/t Polly in the comments

Posted by Kate at 09:31 AM | Comments (52)  "The facts are what they are: Islam has become a violent religion. When atrocities are committed around the world in the name of Allah, condemnation never seems to come from those in the peaceful religion. The silence is deafening when, for instance, a suicide bomber blows up innocent women and children in Israel."
 

1,192 posted on 09/15/2006 4:20:43 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Thanks Backhoe. You always post good info.


1,193 posted on 09/15/2006 4:22:41 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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I do appreciate your looking- and the kind words.


1,194 posted on 09/15/2006 4:28:12 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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CAIR Blasts Pope, Invites Americans to Learn About Islam

Judging from the number of emails I received about this item, there are a lot more people paying attention to the dissembling of the Council on American Islamic Relations lately. Here’s their paid press release (US Newswire is a pay-for-play wire service) on the Pope’s implied criticisms of Islam’s founder Mohammed. The usual evasions are here, including the always-popular “jihad is an inner struggle” howler.

And it concludes with a call for Americans to convert to Islam: U.S. Muslims Call for Dialogue Over Pope’s Comments on Islam...   link: 320 comments

No Islam, Know Peace.

Learn more about the Religion of Peace.

Out of the Mosque, Into the Street

On several TV news shows, I’ve heard commentators say it was odd that all this Muslim anger and rage erupted today, several days after the Pope’s statements about Islam.

What’s odd about it? Today is Friday, and the crowds in photos from around the world with signs (in English) and masks and weapons are coming out of their neighborhood mosques, after listening to sermons by representatives of the Religion of Peace™. Nothing odd here. The massive demonstrations always erupt after Friday prayers.

Pakistani Muslims chant slogans to condemn Pope Benedict XVI for making what they regard as ‘derogatory’ comments about Islam, during a rally in Multan September 15, 2006. (Asim Tanveer/Reuters)

A masked Palestinian man from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade attends a rally in Gaza to protest against remarks regarding Islam made by Pope Benedict XVI September 15, 2006. REUTERS/Mohammed Salem (GAZA)

Palestinian Hamas supporters chant slogans during a protest against remarks regarding Islam made by Pope Benedict XVI, in Gaza September 15, 2006. REUTERS/Mohammed Salem (GAZA)

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CAIR ADVANCES CRUSADE AGAINST POPE

America, CAIR wants to dhimmitize your pope. He may not be my religious leader, my "pope" but I love him just the same. I was, understandably, disappointed in his position in the Israel/Islamic war. It was a mistake to dismiss Hezb'Allah's blood lust and murder and to hold Israel up to an impossible standard (both militarily and morally.)

But now the Pope has spoken truth to militant Islam and the barbarians are out for blood. The new fascism, the crime of opinion, Islam has no sense of justice.

Across the world, Pope Benedict XVI came under increasing critical fire t0day over comments he made about Islam, as Muslim leaders around the world angrily accused him of dividing religions and demanded an apology. The late Pope John Paul II? Wasn't he shot by a muslim? uh...........yeah...| | Comments (1)

Muslim leaders: Pope must apologize...HERE WE GO AGAIN
 
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Imams told to preach in English...expect more {cough, cough...snicker} moderate Muslim's to be going ballistic, Aussie Imams told to preach in English

AUSTRALIA'S Islamic clerics have been told they must draw on the teachings of Islam to condemn terrorism, and preach in English.

“We live in a world of global terrorism where vile acts are regularly being perpetrated in the name of your faith,

Because it is your faith that is being invoked as justification for these evil acts, it is your problem.

Pope's `jihad' remarks a sign - Good article


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Muslims Demonstrate Against Pope--I wish people would READ WHAT THE POPE ACTUALLY SAID:

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Pope: I'm sorry (sorry your offended, that is)

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Benedict’s “blunder” was partly media-enhanced
Somali Cleric Calls for Pope's Death

A prominent Somali cleric has called for Pope Benedict to be hunted down and killed by the nearest Muslim. (Hat tip: Gateway Pundit.)

Like Salman Rushdie. link: 69 comments

 
 Attacks threatened over Pope's words(the Vatican threatened)... [ 1, 2 ]
This is footage from the 1950s of the H-bomb of only 10 MT. The US has continued to upgrade its nuclear yields since the end of the cold war. These idiots have no clue what's coming if they keep poking the west with a stick...
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Pope Rage on the Internet;
church bombings in Gaza

***update: an apology...but of course it's never enough***

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My friend Lorenzo Vidino, counterterrorism expert and author of al Qaeda in Europe, sent the above photo and this note:

Attached is a picture of the Pope that is circulating in Qaeda-friendly chat rooms and websites. Lovely (and predictable) that they call for his beheading.

The script in red calls for the Pope's beheading. The rest of the translation:

"Swine and servant of the cross, worships a monkey on a cross, hateful evil man, stoned Satan, may Allah curse him, blood-sucking vampire."

Will the dhimmis at the New York Times have anything to say about it?

Of course not.

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Germany's Angela Merkel has stood up to support the Pope against the hate-filled, threat-implying jihadists.

What about the men of the West? Where are they? Hello, President Bush?

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Here's Stephen Bainbridge's take on the Pope's speech. Lawrence Auster's is here. Paul Cella weighs in here. And commenter Dan McLaughlin at Red State sums it up:

Frankly, if it is controversial for the Pope to speak negatively about another faith, we're in trouble. As a matter of earthly politics, we expect our religious leaders to espouse tolerance; as a political strategy, it is sometimes prudent for people of many faiths to form alliances within free societies against secularists. But as a matter of propagating the faith - the first duty of the clergy - of course, the Pope is entitled to explain why another faith is false prophecy and leads to ill.

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Meanwhile, reporters bend over backwards to downplay any possibility that practitioners of the Religion of Perpetual Outrage had anything to do with yesterday's church bombings in Gaza:

A small explosion caused minor damage Friday in a courtyard outside a Greek Orthodox church in Gaza City, church workers said. The early morning blast appeared to have been caused by a small, homemade explosive device, which damaged a door and caused minor damage to the floor and walls, church workers said. No one was wounded.

A second explosion hit the church hours later and a concussion grenade was thrown near the church in the afternoon. Neither of those blasts caused any damage, but church officials worried that the attacks were retaliation for remarks that Pope Benedict XVI made Tuesday that angered Muslims.

"This is the first time this has ever happened to our church," said the church's priest, Rev. Artinious Alexious. "We don't know why they have done this. We are Greek Orthodox and have no relation to the Pope."

More church bombings today by "unknown" assailants for "unknown" reasons:

Unknown assailants threw fire bombs on Saturday at two churches in the West Bank city of Nablus, following a day of Palestinian protests against comments Pope Benedict made about Islam. No one was hurt.

Jabi Saadeh, a member of the Anglican Church in the city, said about four or five masked men in a white car threw several fire bombs at the wall of the church, without causing damage.

A similar attack on a Greek Orthodox church in Nablus set ablaze one of its walls, leaving part of it charred. George Awad, head of the Greek Orthodox church, denounced what he called "a childish act".

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LGF gives the clueless MSM a clue.

And remember that "Mr Pope Be With In Your Limits Banner?" Robert Spencer explains what it means:

What limits? Classic Islamic law stipulates that Christians may live in peace in Islamic societies as long as they accept second-class status as dhimmis, which involves living within certain limits: not holding authority over Muslims, paying the jizya tax, not building new churches or repairing old ones, and...not insulting Allah or Muhammad. If they believe that a Christian has insulted them in some way, even inadvertently, his contract of protection -- dhimma -- is voided.

So are these protestors warning the Pope to behave like a dhimmi, or else? I expect so. After all, so many Christians and post-Christians in the West in recent years have been willing, even eager, to accept such limits -- witness the chastened reaction to the Cartoon Rage riots, in which Church officials, government leaders, and others solemnly pontificated against "insults to religious figures." But it wasn't really a question of blasphemy then, and it isn't a question of insult now. It is a question of whether non-Muslims will submit to Muslim standards and restrictions on their speech, thought, and behavior.

And I hope that the Pope, for one, is not willing to do so.

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Rioters' madness shames Muslim world

Father Raymond J. de Souza speaks truth to power in the National Post (thanks to Twostellas):

The eruption of rage in some quarters of the Islamic world against Pope Benedict XVI requires that several tough things be said.

Painful though it may be, speaking frankly is necessary if there is to be honest and open dialogue between the Abrahamic faiths. Given the reaction to Benedict's address, though, one wonders if that dialogue is even possible.

[...]

Benedict was quoting a 14th-century Christian emperor, under siege from the Ottomans, defending the position that spreading religion by violence is contrary to the nature of God. The Emperor, quite reasonably given his circumstances, suggested to his Persian interlocutor such a view did not prevail in Islamic thought.

In response to this historical excursus in an academic lecture by one of the world's most erudite theologians, we are witnessing a wave of madness and malice, no doubt an embarrassment to millions of Muslims.

Roman Catholics are likely angry. Relations between adherents of the two religions simply cannot develop without all conducting themselves as mature adults.

It does a disservice to children to call the wild-eyed statements and deranged behaviour of the past days childish.

It is not only the obscenity of the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist terrorist band suppressed in several Muslim states, demanding an apology from anyone, let alone the Holy Father.

It is not only the grandstanding Pakistani politicians passing resolutions condemning a papal speech few read, and even fewer understood. It is not only the extraneous charges about the Holocaust and Hitler by the agitated and excited.

It is that we have seen this before.

When Pope John Paul II made his epic pilgrimage to the Holy Land, Palestinian Muslim representatives jostled him on the Temple Mount, shouted at him, and, in one episode of maximum rudeness, abandoned him on stage during an interfaith meeting. Bashir Assad, the Syrian President, treated him to an anti-Semitic rant when the late pope visited Syria.

Catholic goodwill toward global Islam is severely attenuated by such continued maltreatment of our universal pastors.

And it is well past time that the maltreatment of history ceased too.

The irony of the accusations that Pope Benedict has a "Crusader mentality" is that he was speaking about the period in which the Crusades themselves took place.

Catholics have for quite some time now confessed the sinful and wicked shadows that marked the Crusades, but any suggestion the whole affair was about rapacious Christians setting upon irenic Muslims must be rejected.

After all, the formerly Christian lands of North Africa, the Middle East and Asia Minor were not converted to Islam by Muslim missionary martyrs. Those lands were conquered by the sword.

The Crusader idea was that they could be recovered. Who wronged who first is a fruitless historical inquiry, but historical honesty requires an admission that Muslims wronged as much as they were wronged against.

Actually, the recapture of all the lands conquered and Islamized by the warriors of jihad was never part of the Crusader program. But in any case, this is an excellent and, under the circumstances, courageous piece. Read it all.

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TIGERHAWK looks at The Times, the Pope, and Muslim rage.

Frankly, I'm pretty tired of "Muslim rage." If they're that insecure about their religion, maybe the problem isn't with the critics. I'm also pretty unimpressed with Western commentators who serve as enablers to such juvenile and destructive behavior. "Baptist rage" certainly wouldn't get this kind of slack from the Times.

Saudi Grand Mufti: "These Are All Lies"

The highest religious authority in the center of Islam, the apartheid theocracy of Saudi Arabia, says Pope Benedict’s comments are “lies,” and they prove that reconciliation between religions is impossible.   link: 84 comments

Peaceful Religion Watch

Black-veiled Muslim women activists of Dukhtaran-e-Millat, or Daughters of the Community, take out a procession against the Pope in Srinagar, India, Saturday, Sept. 16, 2006. Police detained nearly two-dozen Muslim protesters Saturday as demonstrations against Pope Benedict XVI’s remarks on Islam continued for the second straight day in the Indian portion of Kashmir. (AP Photo/Dar Yasin)

Angry Pakistani Muslims chant slogans after setting on fire the effigy of Pope Benedict XVI during a rally to condemn Pope’s remarks, Saturday, Sept 16, 2006 in Karachi, Pakistan. Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry has summoned the Vatican’s ambassador to express regret over the pope’s recent remarks about Islam, as Parliament passed a resolution condemning the comments. The banner reads ‘Pope should apologize for hurting Muslims’. (AP Photo/Adnan Ali)

Students of the Islamic school ‘Jamia Nuria Islamia’ chant slogans on a Dhaka street during a protest rally against a comment made by Pope Benedict, in Dhaka September 16, 2006. The placard reads ‘We want trial of Christian Pope’. Pope Benedict is sorry Muslims were offended by a speech on Islam that provoked fury around the world and led to calls for the leader of the Catholic church to apologise, an aide said on Saturday. REUTERS/Rafiqur Rahman (BANGLADESH)


 

RoP Strikes in Thailand

Three bombs hit southern Thai town. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)  link: 61 comments  " Sounds like that militant Christianity again. I guess Rosie was right after all..."

Losing Our Will to Win


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What the Pope Really Said

Iraqi jihad group threatens Vatican with suicide bombers in Internet message

Pope Benedict XVI's statement that "Violence is incompatible with the nature of God" continues to prove itself incomprehensible to those who embrace the Verse of the Sword (9:5) as divine fiat.

From Haaretz: "Iraqi militant group threatens Vatican in Internet message" Posted by Marisol at 11:22 PM | Comments (52) "In my humble opinion, the speech sounded like an attempt to bring some attention to the fact that MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL EVERYBODY NOT MUSLIM."

His reasoned remarks were met with uproar, threats, and killing. The dialog has begun.

The Religion of Peace
Firebombs & Fatwas

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Yahoo News: Anglican church in Gaza firebombed

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New item via AINA: "According to the website Islam Memo, one Christian was killed in Baghdad after the Pope's speech two days ago. The speech created a wave of anger throughout the Islamic world, including Iraq. A poster has been placed in many Baghdad mosques for the previously unknown group, "Kataab Ashbal Al Islam Al Salafi," (Islamic Salafist Boy Scout Battalions). This group threatens to kill all Christians in Iraq if the Pope does not apologize in three days in front of the whole world to Mohammed."

Item: Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin's fatwa:

"Whoever offends our Prophet Muhammad should be killed on the spot by the nearest Muslim."

Item: Iraqi jihadi threat:

"We swear that we will destroy their cross in the heart of Rome ... and that their Vatican will be hit and wept over by the Pope," said Jaish al-Mujahideen (the Mujahideen's Army) in the statement, whose authenticity could not be confirmed.

The statement lashed out at "Zionised Christians and loathsome crusaders" and was accompanied by six films showing attacks against US military targets in Iraq, which it said were "dedicated to the dog of the crusaders (an apparent reference to the Pope) in retaliation for his remarks".

"We will not rest until your thrones and your crosses have been destroyed on your own territory," said the group, which has claimed many attacks against US and government forces in Iraq.

Item: The Taliban demands an apology...or else.

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More enraged Muslims prove the Pope's point.

An Arab op-ed threatens: Pope's remarks may lead to war.

Security has been tightened for the Pope's weekly Sunday blessing tomorrow. The Pontif will give his traditional Sunday address at midday (2000 AEST) from the balcony of his summer residence at Castel Gandolfo, just south of Rome.

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Father Raymond de Souza speaks out in the National Post: "Rioters' madness shames Muslim world" (hat tip: Jihad Watch). A few excerpts from this must-read:

The eruption of rage in some quarters of the Islamic world against Pope Benedict XVI requires that several tough things be said.

Painful though it may be, speaking frankly is necessary if there is to be honest and open dialogue between the Abrahamic faiths. Given the reaction to Benedict's address, though, one wonders if that dialogue is even possible.

The Pope devoted almost 4,000 words to examining the relationship between faith and reason, and the prospect for dialogue between modernity and the world of religion.

In the course of that address he quoted a dialogue recorded between the Byzantine (Christian) Emperor Manuel II Paleologus and an erudite Persian on the subject of Christianity and Islam. The dialogue took place during the siege of Constantinople between 1394 and 1402.

During their conversation, the Pope said, the Emperor "turns to his interlocutor somewhat brusquely with the central question on the relationship between religion and violence in general, in these words: 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.' "

Benedict was quoting a 14th-century Christian emperor, under siege from the Ottomans, defending the position that spreading religion by violence is contrary to the nature of God. The Emperor, quite reasonably given his circumstances, suggested to his Persian interlocutor such a view did not prevail in Islamic thought.

In response to this historical excursus in an academic lecture by one of the world's most erudite theologians, we are witnessing a wave of madness and malice, no doubt an embarrassment to millions of Muslims.

An embarrasment to some. An inspiration to far more.

Continuing, de Souza rights the jihadists' historical wrongs:

It does a disservice to children to call the wild-eyed statements and deranged behaviour of the past days childish.

It is not only the obscenity of the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist terrorist band suppressed in several Muslim states, demanding an apology from anyone, let alone the Holy Father.

It is not only the grandstanding Pakistani politicians passing resolutions condemning a papal speech few read, and even fewer understood. It is not only the extraneous charges about the Holocaust and Hitler by the agitated and excited.

It is that we have seen this before.

When Pope John Paul II made his epic pilgrimage to the Holy Land, Palestinian Muslim representatives jostled him on the Temple Mount, shouted at him, and, in one episode of maximum rudeness, abandoned him on stage during an interfaith meeting. Bashir Assad, the Syrian President, treated him to an anti-Semitic rant when the late pope visited Syria.

Catholic goodwill toward global Islam is severely attenuated by such continued maltreatment of our universal pastors.

And it is well past time that the maltreatment of history ceased too.

The irony of the accusations that Pope Benedict has a "Crusader mentality" is that he was speaking about the period in which the Crusades themselves took place.

Catholics have for quite some time now confessed the sinful and wicked shadows that marked the Crusades, but any suggestion the whole affair was about rapacious Christians setting upon irenic Muslims must be rejected.

After all, the formerly Christian lands of North Africa, the Middle East and Asia Minor were not converted to Islam by Muslim missionary martyrs. Those lands were conquered by the sword.

The Crusader idea was that they could be recovered. Who wronged who first is a fruitless historical inquiry, but historical honesty requires an admission that Muslims wronged as much as they were wronged against.

The sword of Islam is carried today by self-professed jihadis. In most countries with Muslim majorities, Christians do not have the full freedom to practise their faith without fear.

Whether private harassment or state-sanctioned torture, Christians the world over know all too well that the sword of Islam has not been sheathed. No doubt the extreme reaction to Benedict's address will serve the purpose of keeping local Christians in their place throughout the Islamic world.

For telling these blunt, unshirking truths, Father de Souza will no doubt earn his own firebomb and fatwa squad.

I believe Oriana Fallaci would have approved.

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Father Samir K. Samir also speaks out:

"Rather than criticizing Islam, the pope is actually offering it a helping hand by suggesting that it do away with the cycle of violence," Fr. Samir K. Samir, SJ one of the Vatican's leading experts on Islam wrote in the Catholic newspaper Asia News.

The pope's academic lecture "was trying to show how Western society-including the Church-has become secularized by removing from the concept of Reason its spiritual dimension and origins which are in God," Fr. Samir stated.

...The tragedy in this controversy, Fr. Samir suggested was that "only by listening to the Pope's suggestions, and those of a few Muslim intellectuals, can Islam's chances for renewal become real."

"It is high time that Islam deal with modernity; not to be swallowed up by it, but rather to take what good it has to offer and improve on it," he said.

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Dafydd has fun with the Dhimmi Times.

Speaking of dhimmis, meet the head of the Coptic Christian church, who has joined jihadists in denouncing the Pope.

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New York Times, Jihad's Official Paper

All the news that fits the jihad, eh? Today's New York crimes, slimes, Times, has called for the Pope to submit to dhimmitude and apologize for the speech the Pope made last Tuesday in Germany.
Funny, when the speech first ran, The NY Hypocrites referred to the Pope's statement on Islam as an added footnote onJihad_porn_1 jihad.

Now they are calling for the Pope to bow down to Islam? How dare they are? What part of murder and oppression is the NY Times in love with?  Militant members of Islam must stop killing people. They must stop killing or we will stop them.

It's obvious the violent reaction to the Pope's citingof a quote from a  14th century Christian emperor is validation of the Pope's comments. Effigys of the Pope burn as we speak.

Morocco has recalled its ambassador to the Vatican.

Five Churches have been attacked today  in Gaza and the Times is backing these animals? What is their motive? Unfettered access?

Seeing as that the Times has surrendered to Islam, it would be fitting that their female employees start wearing the chador, stop drinking and shtuping indiscriminately and move to an Islamic country. Clearly, they hate America and all that makes America great. They've taken sides and it's not ours. Convert or die, remember?

The pity here is I am sure there are Muslims that are happy the Pope has spoken out, because they can not. And here comes these big self important schmucks at the Times trying to shut up the Pope. I think it's time the Times shuts up. They can't go out of business soon enough for freedom loving peoples the world over.
Here is the Times opinion piece;

The Pope's Words, New York Times September 15th

There is more than enough religious anger in the world. So it is particularly disturbing that Pope Benedict XVI has insulted Muslims, quoting a 14th-century description of Islam as “evil and inhuman.”

He didn't "insult" Muslims, he spoke the truth. He was giving a speech to an academic audience and he said "and I quote"  discussing a  theological matter from the late 14th century.

In the most provocative part of a speech this week on “faith and reason,” the pontiff recounted a conversation between an “erudite” Byzantine Christian emperor and a “learned” Muslim Persian circa 1391. The pope quoted the emperor saying, “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

Let's ask Daniel Pearl, Nic Berg, Olag Wiig, Steve Centanni and the victims of these 5,8885 Islamic terror attacks since 9/11. All that jihad porn.

Muslim leaders the world over have demanded apologies and threatened to recall their ambassadors from the Vatican, warning that the pope’s words dangerously reinforce a false and biased view of Islam. For many Muslims, holy war — jihad — is a spiritual struggle, and not a call to violence. And they denounce its perversion by extremists, who use jihad to justify murder and terrorism.

Is that why Muslims the world over are rioting, burning churches, screaming jihad? There is not one hadith in the Quran that speaks to a spiritual jihad. Not one.

The Vatican issued a statement saying that Benedict meant no offense and in fact desired dialogue. But this is not the first time the pope has fomented discord between Christians and Muslims.

Good enough. Here is the statement.  But it's not enough. They want a retraction. They want the Pope to say he was wrong. Bottom line, either way it's a kill kill situation. Apologize and you will  absolve the angry Muslims of their mad rioting, burning, murder, mayhem.
No apology....reason enough to continue to riot, burn, yada yada yada

In 2004 when he was still the Vatican’s top theologian, he spoke out against Turkey’s joining the European Union, because Turkey, as a Muslim country was “in permanent contrast to Europe.”

True that. Until Europe has completely bent over that is.

A doctrinal conservative, his greatest fear appears to be the loss of a uniform Catholic identity, not exactly the best jumping-off point for tolerance or interfaith dialogue.

Neither is beheading anyone that disagrees with you.

The world listens carefully to the words of any pope. And it is tragic and dangerous when one sows pain, either deliberately or carelessly. He needs to offer a deep and persuasive apology, demonstrating that words can also heal.

The last thing the Pope should do is listen to these dhimmis! We need courageous leaders and truth tellers to face the barbarians.
Email your support to the Pope. Here is his email address: accreditamenti@pressva.va

UPDATE: And no I don't think the Pope should go to Turkey. Maybe this the time, a turkish Muslim will succeed; This from Judith at HNN

TURKISH BESTSELLER: WHO WILL KILL THE POPE ?

Concern for the safety of the Pope during his upcoming visit to Turkey was one of Pope_4the immediate responses to the current fracas. But it preceeded it. This book, published in August, is number 16 on the best seller list in Turkey. It puts the Pope's speech in an entirely different context

The book is entitled Papa’ya suikast(Assassinating the Pope], with the subtitle "Who will kill the Pope in Istanbul?". It is written by Yücel Kaya, a crime-story writer, who is gaining some success with the book which has been climbing the bestseller list on the Internet.
[...]
The disquieting aspect is in the real and circumstantial references to recent events of an anti-religious context, such as the murder of Don Andrea Santoro in Trebizond and the recent stabbing of Father Pierre Brunissen in Samsun. Both episodes have been explained away as isolated acts by fanatics, when actually, the climate of intimidation against Christians is very real.

For Al Qaeda plots to assassinate the Pope, click here.

Jerry at Israpundit speaks to the enablers and the truth tellers.

UPDATE: Somali cleric calls for pope's death - World - theage.com.au hat tip Bill

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Sixty-three years ago, Nazi Germany had overrun almost all of Europe and
hammered England to the verge of bankruptcy and defeat, and had sunk more
than four hundred British ships in their convoys between England and America
for food and war materials.

At that time the U.S. was in an isolationist, pacifist mood, and most
Americans wanted nothing to do with the European or the Asian war.

Then along came Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, and in outrage Congress
unanimously declared war on Japan, and the following day on Germany, which
had not yet attacked us. It was a dicey thing. We had few allies.

France was not an ally, as the Vichy government of France quickly aligned
itself with its German occupiers. Germany was certainly not an ally, as
Hitler was intent on setting up a Thousand Year Reich in Europe. Japan was
not an ally, as it was well on its way to owning and controlling all of
Asia. Together, Japan and Germany had long-range plans of invading Canada
and Mexico, as launching pads to get into the United States over our
northern and southern borders, after they finished gaining control of Asia
and Europe. America’s only allies then were England, Ireland, Scotland,
Canada, Australia, and Russia. That was about it. All of Europe, from
Norway to Italy, except Russia in the east, was already under the Nazi heel.

America was certainly not prepared for war. America had drastically
downgraded most of its military forces after WWI and throughout the
depression, so that at the outbreak of WW2, army units were training with
broomsticks because they didn’t have guns, and cars with “tank” painted on
the doors because they didn’t have real tanks. And a huge chunk of our navy
had just been sunk or damaged at Pearl Harbor.

Britain had already gone bankrupt, saved only by the donation of $600
million in gold bullion in the Bank of England, that was actually the
property of Belgium, given by Belgium to England to carry on the war when
Belgium was overrun by Hitler (a little known fact). Actually, Belgium
surrendered o n one day, because it was unable to oppose the German invasion,
and the Germans bombed Brussels into rubble the next day just to prove they
could. Britain had already been holding out for two years in the face of
staggering shipping loses and the near-decimation of its air force in the
Battle of Britain, and was saved from being overrun by Germany only because
Hitler made the mistake of thinking the Brits were a relatively minor threat
that could be dealt with later, and first turning his attention to Russia,
at a time when England was on the verge of collapse, in the late summer of
1940.

Ironically, Russia saved America’s butt by putting up a desperate fight for
two years, until the U.S. got geared up to begin hammering away at Germany.

Russia lost something like 24 million people in the sieges of Stalingrad and
Moscow alone… 90% of them from cold and starvation, mostly civilians, but
also more than a MILLION soldiers.

Had Russia surrendered, Hitler would have been able to focus his entire war
effort against the Brits, then America. And the Nazis could possibly have
won the war.

All of this is to illustrate that turning points in history are often dicey
things. And now, we find ourselves at another one of those key moments in
history.

There is a very dangerous minority in Islam that either has, or wants and
may soon have, the ability to deliver small nuclear, biological, or chemical
weapons, almost anywhere in the world.

The Jihadis, the militant Muslims, are basically Nazis in Kaffiyahs — they
believe that Islam, a radically conservative form of Wahhabi Islam, should
own and control the Middle East first, then Europe, then the world. And that
all who do not bow to their will of thinking should be killed, enslaved, or
subjugated. They want to finish the Holocaust, destroy Israel, and purge
the world of Jews. This is their mantra.

There is also a civil war raging in the Middle East — for the most part not
a hot war, but a war of ideas. Islam is having its Inquisition and its
Reformation, but it is not known yet which will win — the Inquisitors, or
the Reformationists.

If the Inquisition wins, then the Wahhabis, the Jihadis, will control the
Middle East, the OPEC oil, and the US, European, and Asian economies. The
techno-industrial economies will be at the mercy of OPEC — not an OPEC
dominated by the educated, rational Saudis of today, but an OPEC dominated
by the Jihadis.

You want gas in your car? You want heating oil next winter? You want the
dollar to be worth anything? You better hope the Jihad, the Muslim
Inquisition, loses, and the Islamic Reformation wins.

If the Reformation movement wins, that is, the moderate Muslims who believe
that Islam can respect and tolerate other religions, and live in peace with
the rest of the world, and move out of the 10th century into the 21st, then
the troubles in the Middle East will eventually fade away, and a moderate
and prosperous Middle East will emerge.

We have to help the Reformation win, and to do that we have to fight the
Inquisition, i.e., the Wahhabi movement, the Jihad, Al Qaeda and the Islamic
terrorist movements. We have to do it somewhere. And we can’t do it
everywhere at once. We have created a focal point for the battle at a time
and place of our choosing……..in Iraq.
Not in New York, not in London, or Paris or Berlin, but in Iraq, where we
are doing two important things.

(1) We deposed Saddam Hussein. Whether Saddam Hussein was directly
involved in 9/11 or not, it is undisputed that Saddam has been actively
supporting the terrorist movement for decades. Saddam is a terrorist.

Saddam is, or was, a weapon of mass destruction, who is responsible for the
deaths of probably more than a million Iraqis and two million Iranians.

(2) We created a battle, a confrontation, a flash point, with Islamic
terrorism in Iraq. We have focused the battle. We are killing bad people,
and the ones we get there we won’t have to get here. We also have a good
shot at creating a democratic, peaceful Iraq, which will be a catalyst for
democratic change in the rest of the Middle East, and an outpost for a
stabilizing American military presence in the Middle East for as long as it
is needed.

World War II, the war with the German and Japanese Nazis, really began with
a “whimper” in 1928. It did not begin with Pearl Harbor. It began with the
Japanese invasion of China. It was a war for fourteen years before America
joined it. It officially ended in 1945 — a 17 year war — and was followed
by another decade of U.S. occupation in Germany and Japan to get those
countries reconstructed and running on their own again .. a 27 year war.

World War II cost the United States an amount equal to approximately a full
year’s GDP — adjusted for inflation, equal to about $12 trillion dollars.
WWII cost America more than 400,000 killed in action, and nearly 100,000
still missing in action.

The Iraq war has, so far, cost the US about $160 billion, which is roughly
what 9/11 cost New York. It has also cost about 2,200 American lives, which
is roughly 2/3 of the 3,000 lives that the Jihad snuffed on
9/11. But the cost of not fighting and winning WWII would have been
unimaginably greater — a world dominated by German and Japanese Nazism.

Americans have a short attention span, conditioned by 30 second sound bites,
60 minute TV shows, and 2 hour movies in which everything comes out okay.

The real world is not like that. It is messy, uncertain,and sometimes
bloody and ugly. Always has been, and probably always will be.

The bottom line is that we will have to deal with Islamic terrorism until we
defeat it, whenever that is. It will not go away if we ignore it.

If the U.S. can create a reasonably democratic and stable Iraq, then we have
an “England” in the Middle East, a platform, from which we can work to help
modernize and moderate the Middle East. The history of the world is the
clash between the forces of relative civility and civilization, and the
barbarians clamoring at the gates. The Iraq war is merely another battle in
this ancient and never-ending war. And now, for the first time ever, the
barbarians are about to get nuclear weapons. Unless somebody prevents them.

We have four options:

1. We can defeat the Jihad now, before it gets nuclear weapons.

2. We can fight the Jihad later, after it gets nuclear weapons (which may
be as early as next year, if Iran’s progress on nuclear weapons is what Iran
claims it is).

3. We can surrender to the Jihad and accept its dominance in the Middle
East, now, in Europe in the next few years or decades, and ultimately in
America.

4. Or, we can stand down now, and pick up the fight later when the Jihad is
more widespread and better armed, perhaps after the Jihad has dominated
France and Germany and maybe most of the rest of Europe. It will, of
course, be more dangerous, more expensive, and much bloodier.

If you oppose this war, I hope you like the idea that your children, or
grandchildren, may live in an Islamic America under the Mullahs and the
Sharia, an America that resembles Iran today.

The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural
clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and
civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.

Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists
always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.

Remember, perspective is everything, and America’s schools teach too little
history for perspective to be clear, especially in the young American mind.

The Cold war lasted from about 1947 at least until the Berlin Wall came down
in 1989. Forty-two years. Europe spent the first half of the 19th century
fighting Napoleon, and from 1870 to 1945 fighting Germany.

World War II began in 1928, lasted 17 years, plus a ten year occupation, and
the U.S. still has troops in Germany and Japan. World War II resulted in
the death of more than 50 million people, maybe more than 100 million
people, depending on which estimates you accept.

The U.S. has taken more than 2,000 KIA in Iraq. The U.S. took more than
4,000 killed in action on the morning of June 6, 1944, the first day of the
Normandy Invasion to rid Europe of Nazi Imperialism. In WWII the US
averaged 2,000 KIA a week — for four years. Most of the individual battles
of WWII lost more Americans than the entire Iraq war has done so far.

But the stakes are at least as high .. A world dominated by representative
governments with civil rights, human rights, and personal freedoms … or a
world dominated by a radical Islamic Wahhabi movement, by the Jihad, under
the Mullahs and the Sharia (Islamic law).

It’s difficult to understand why the American left does not grasp this. They
favor human rights, civil rights, liberty and freedom, but evidently not for
Iraqis.

“Peace Activists” always seem to demonstrate here in America, where it’s
safe.

Why don’t we see Peace Activist demonstrating in Iran, Syria, Iraq, Sudan,
North Korea, in the places that really need peace activism the most?

The liberal mentality is supposed to favor human rights, civil rights,
democracy, multiculturalism, diversity, etc., but if the Jihad wins,
wherever the Jihad wins, it is the end of civil rights, human rights,
democracy, multiculturalism, diversity, etc. Americans who oppose the
liberation of Iraq are coming down on the side of their own worst enemy.

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ArabNews: "Muslims Need to Be Media Savvy"

On Wednesday we noted a report that the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is urging rich Muslims to buy more media influence in the West, by investing in media corporations. Tim Blair points out this related article at ArabNews, in which an anonymous Western journalist who was present at the meeting says it’s a great idea, but keep it hush-hush: ‘Muslims Need to Be Media Savvy’. link: 571 comments

RoP's Iraq Branch Threatens Pope with Suicide Attack

Iraq’s Mujahedeen Army has posted a message on the internet threatening Pope Benedict XVI with a suicide attacklink: 240 comments  "The Muslims expressed faux outrage with the cartoons poking fun at Islam and Mohamed.  In the case of this Pope, these outraged morons really are afraid of the man. He knows who and what they are and he will not submit to their stupid demands. Unlike the monsters that blow up women and children, he can influence millions to reject their violent hate.

#57 Cornholio  9/16/2006 06:36PM PDT
 

The Pope is scheduled to give a public statement tomorrow. Will he cave in to the enormous pressure from radical Islam and its Western enablers, and issue a personal apology?

Charles you're missing the big picture here. Just like the car-burning riots in Paris last year, or the cartoon-jihad, the latest Muslim threats against the Pope were planned well in advance.

These terrorists plan these events months ahead of time, and then wait for an event to take "offense" at.

In other words, the terrorists probably planned violent action against the Pope/Vatican/Christians in general for over a year, and they used the Pope's speech as an excuse to set violence in motion.

“We swear to God to send you people who adore death as much as you adore life,” said the message posted in the name of the Mujahedeen Army on a Web site frequently used by militant groups. ...

The Mujahedeen Army’s statement vowed, “our minds will not rest until we shake your thrones and break your crosses in your home.”

This is not a threat, it is a promise.
 
Al-Qaida warning: Muslims leave U.S.
 
More thoughts on the War against Islamic Terror
 
Playing nice: A luxury we can't afford

1,198 posted on 09/17/2006 4:35:13 AM PDT by backhoe
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Liberals, Islamists Unite against Pope
 
Arab Op-ed: Pope’s Remarks May Lead to War(The sooner, the better) --Well, on the bright side, at least the Pope didn't draw a cartoon. That would have been big trouble.
 
Italian nun slain in Somalia [Islamofascists kill to vindicate Mohammed's honor]
--more-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1702986/posts
 
Five churches attacked in Palestinian territories (Muslims go ballistic over Pope's comment)
 
’We will blow up all of Gaza’s churches’
 
Is this what they mean by "Muslim tolerance'?
 
Lessons from the First Five Years of the War
 
Waiting for justice on Anfal [1988: Saddam Killed 100,000; Another 182,000 Missing]
 
Obsession" (Full length)-(graphic Glen Back reference)

1,199 posted on 09/17/2006 7:10:46 AM PDT by backhoe
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Somali Cleric Urges Muslims to Kill the Pope
 
Mujahideen Army Threatens Pope with Suicide Attack
 
Muslims read riot act (Strong spines in Australia)
 
Gunshots fired at Oslo synagogue
 
Depressing Times (Victor Davis Hanson, must read)--I wish she were still alive to scoff at the politically correct, the appeaser, and the triangulator, but alas she is gone, defiant to the last.
 

Israeli-US plot behind pope's remarks: Iran hardline press

Well, we should have known all along: the Zionists are behind Pope Benedict's remarks! Of course! From AFP, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist: Posted by Robert at 02:56 PM | Comments (16)

 

The Religion Of The Peace Of Surrender

In what could only be described as a depressingly predictable escalation, Somalian Islamists shot an elderly Catholic nun in the back three times, killing the woman who had served as a nurse to Mogadishu's poverty-stricken people. It came as Pope Benedict XVI offered an apology for using inflammatory language while Muslim activists and leaders around the world proclaimed it insufficient:--The West has to determine when they will quit enabling this impulse among the barbarians of the Middle East, and I use that term deliberately. This goes far beyond the idea of a lunatic fringe; it is representative of at least a significant part of the Islamic culture around the world, as any cursory glance at their media will demonstrate. This second outrage reminds me once again of the escalating series of terrorist attacks on American assets in the 1990s.

UPDATE: Keep an eye on Michelle Malkin for updates to this story. Unfortunately, there will be many more over the next few days, and no one will cover it like Michelle.

UPDATE II: Dafydd has late-breaking updates of Muslims speaking out against the irrational rage and hatred. Funny, but we've heard the same exact responses after other examples of Muslim outrage. Posted by Captain Ed at 09:42 AM | Comments (22) 

Politicians are reading these comment sections folks; as are people from all sectors.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3304575,00.html

http://www.powerlineblog.com/

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=86522&d=14&m=9&y=2006

The American media and the world media are deeply involved in this war; based soley upon the stories written, would you say that the media is on the side of good, or are they on the side of evil?

Roots of Islamic Terrorism: HOW COMMUNISTS HELPED FUNDAMENTSLISTS

President Clinton's Speech on Terrorist Attacks (20 August, 1998)--Gee. What else was in the news the day he made this speech, hmmm.  Could it have been . . . umm. . .?


1,200 posted on 09/17/2006 4:40:53 PM PDT by backhoe
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