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The end of 'Christianity lite' is near
Edmonton Sun ^
| December 21, 2003
| TED BYFIELD
Posted on 12/21/2003 3:46:23 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Brandybux
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posted on
12/21/2003 4:43:18 PM PST
by
A. Pole
(pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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To: Brandybux
23
posted on
12/21/2003 4:45:39 PM PST
by
A. Pole
(pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
To: nickcarraway
Interesting article. Thanks for posting.
I was thinking just the same thing the other day, for some reason: that the time of sitting on the fence is over, and that many Christians are going to have seriously ask themselves what it is that they really believe. (Starting with some in the hierarchy, I hope!)
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posted on
12/21/2003 4:46:41 PM PST
by
livius
To: mr. mojo risin; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Gamecock; CCWoody; Dr Warmoose; OrthodoxPresbyterian; ...
So Ricky warren wants to play with the big boys? Bad idea that! For the record, my pastor finds Warren shallow at best, heretical at worst. Could you get some confirming links? I know a pastor who would be very interested! Warren sounds more and more like a cult leader every day!
To: livius
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posted on
12/21/2003 4:55:32 PM PST
by
Zipporah
To: CARepubGal; P-Marlowe
Some of our friends will disagree with the premise of this article.
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posted on
12/21/2003 5:00:01 PM PST
by
Gamecock
(Day 2 of the Pope Piel Death Watch....)
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To: CARepubGal
Oh great. An excellent article about a timely subject requiring deep introspection about the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the last days Church becomes a if-you-don't-agree-with-my-pastor-you-must-be-a-cult bash-a-thon.
Geez. The devil has to do very little of his dirty work.
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posted on
12/21/2003 5:22:00 PM PST
by
Skooz
(If everyone knew everything about everyone, no one would have anything to do with anyone)
To: Skooz
I find Ricky Warren shallow, superficial and more like Jim Bakker or Swaggart. Sorry bub! Saddleback is a cute trend and his "let's all be just like me" game is somewhat cultish. But YOU are sooooo much more "spiritual" since you paid the $$ and bought the horrid book! :)
To: Gamecock
See Post 29. The screaming beginneth! Incidentally Warren hates denominations. Some one else felt that way too! Guess who it was?
To: nickcarraway
The middle ground is dissapearing. Churches that try to stay 'Chrsitian-lite' are being pulled off the fence, mostly towards the radical homosexual activist side. As someone much wiser than I said, no man can serve two masters.
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posted on
12/21/2003 5:28:53 PM PST
by
Grig
To: CARepubGal
I haven't read the book. And there's no need to be smug and condescending. I just find it distressing that Christians tend to bash one another so incessantly over a jot or tittle of doctrine when much of what we believe (NOT the basic tenants of faith, but the more or less extraneous volume of denominational doctrine) is subjective.
It's much easier to construct our Byzantine maze of pharisitical "thou shalt not believe XYZ" than to love one another with Christ's love, as He commanded.
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posted on
12/21/2003 5:31:49 PM PST
by
Skooz
(If everyone knew everything about everyone, no one would have anything to do with anyone)
To: mr. mojo risin
Man, do you sound like a guy with an axe to grind! :)
(Perhaps rightfully so).
I go to a church influenced by the Willow Creek Syndrome and have done a bit of research into it's origins - perhaps you could pass on some of the info you've found.
To: Skooz; Gamecock
What besides the "happy verses" do you believe then? Having learned about that kind of Christianity then falling for a cult thanks to the improper teachings I received (in all fairness, the resources were not as accessable but still there was no meat taught to me and the cult sounded like another group o' Christians to my ignorant ears). Would you Christians that can say what they believe and why or cult fodder?
To: CARepubGal
What besides the "happy verses" do you believe then? The whole thing. All 66 books. The "happy verses" and the verses requiring repentence and subjection to the Word of God. All of it.
Would you Christians that can say what they believe and why or cult fodder?
You might have to re-write that sentence. I cannot understand it. :0)
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posted on
12/21/2003 5:39:44 PM PST
by
Skooz
(If everyone knew everything about everyone, no one would have anything to do with anyone)
To: Rastifratz
Right here...
"Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." Rom 11:22
The modern church wants to talk about the goodness of God but not the severity.
To: nickcarraway; anniegetyourgun; Canticle_of_Deborah; No More Gore Anymore
'"Spirituality," in other words invariably turns into "religion."' That is the only statement with which I disagree in that article.
There is definitely a division taking place in this country.
God is separating His people from the chaff, but I'm not sure that translates into more religion, per se, just a desire to be closer to God through urgings of the Holy Spirit.
One of the hallmarks of this "Christianity Lite" was, and to a large extent still is, the belief that church is a social gathering place whereby mere presence and a ten percent tithe guarantees one a place in Heaven.
"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny Him." Tit 1:16.
God knows our hearts.
Our worship of Him on Sunday morning doesn't constitute our spirituality unless we follow that with His work.
"Ye shall know them by their fruits....." Mt 7:16.
I am thankful to the Holy Father for this time of choosing.
We must either be for Him or against Him.
"I know thy works, that thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee from my mouth." Rev. 3: 15, 16.
To: Skooz
"I just find it distressing that Christians tend to bash one another so incessantly over a jot or tittle of doctrine "...
I wasn't bashing Christians.. it has to do with doctrine.. and when doctrine contridicts scripture...
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posted on
12/21/2003 5:43:14 PM PST
by
Zipporah
To: Skooz
Your statement is correct, Christ did command us to love.
But He also commanded us...
"Take heed that no man deceive you." Matt 24:4
The Christian is under an obligation to follow ALL the teachings of Christ.
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