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Polls Emphasize Growing Religious Gap in Politics
Fox News website ^ | Thursday, December 18, 2003 | Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Posted on 12/18/2003 7:52:33 AM PST by FormerLib

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:38:08 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

And while these figures come as no surprise to those watching the trends, it does suggest a serious "religion gap" going into the 2004 presidential elections. Critics say that spells bad news for Democrats if they can't convince voters they aren't afraid of the "R" word.


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Although some posters continue to treat religious conservatives as if they were ignorant primatives who deserve to be locked up for the "hateful" attitudes, religious folk continue to be at the core of Republican and conservative success in our country. The Republican Party can ignore them at their own risk.
1 posted on 12/18/2003 7:52:34 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
Just as the enviromentalism has become a religion unto itself, the Democrats are making Socialism their religion.
2 posted on 12/18/2003 8:01:41 AM PST by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: FormerLib; billbears; 4ConservativeJustices; stainlessbanner
With the evangelicals bearing fruit, the dims have no choice but go after the evangelicals, even to changing the party's name or changing to a third party to maintain the vulgar two-party myth...
3 posted on 12/18/2003 8:08:24 AM PST by Ff--150 (The blessing of the Lord maketh rich)
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To: FormerLib
Divide and conquer has always been the Communist/Liberal/Leftist/Hate America/Democratic Parties mantra. Notice how the VLWC press has attacked Catholicism, the Boy Scouts/The sanctity of marraige and the values of the evangelicals. It's very clear to anyone that ever picks up the Bible that Democrats have no historic credibility or Christian pedigree. On the contrary we can directly link them to satan, moloch, philistines and the nazi party.

Right now the Almighty is shifting His people like wheat sorting them into bundles either for eternal life or the fire, IMHO!

Merry Christmas and Maranatha,

DrMike

4 posted on 12/18/2003 8:08:54 AM PST by STD
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To: FormerLib
read later
5 posted on 12/18/2003 8:18:29 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Ff--150
With the evangelicals bearing fruit, the dims have no choice but go after the evangelicals, even to changing the party's name or changing to a third party to maintain the vulgar two-party myth...

The Dims have no platform ... no religion, no positive moral values, nothing that would endear them to evangelicals. Their platform is atheism, abortion on demand, socialism, pacifism. A vote for a dim is a vote for America to be regarded as a an unprotected, defenseless child available to be raped.

6 posted on 12/18/2003 8:22:34 AM PST by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: STD
Yor really need to alter your screen name. ;)
7 posted on 12/18/2003 8:26:51 AM PST by verity
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
The Dims have no platform ... no religion, no positive moral values, nothing that would endear them to evangelicals.

I'm actually thankful for that (even though I am not an 'Evangelical')! I was raised in a liberal Democrat family but the Party's nonsensical embrace of abortion, criminal's rights over victim's rights, gun-control, affirmative action without proof of prior discrimination, and the homosexual agenda forced me to wake up and examine all of their motives and goals. Needless to say, they were found wanting in many, many areas.

8 posted on 12/18/2003 8:40:54 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
"The Dims have no platform ... no religion, no positive moral values, nothing that would endear them to evangelicals"

So??? 8-) Just talk a different talk, and as anyone with an IQ over that of a pinecone can conclude the supposed conservative party hasn't change a thing except a lowering of taxes.

Just watch the dims start talking the talk for conservatives and evangelicals...

9 posted on 12/18/2003 8:42:19 AM PST by Ff--150 (The Gospel of Thomas)
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To: FormerLib
An excellent post. So much here to comment on.

"Marcus Welty, a researcher with the National Council of Churches, said mainline Protestants may not equal the numbers of their Evangelical counterparts, and their members may not be as churchgoing, but they do lead religious lives demonstrated by their volunteering for causes like reducing poverty and championing certain issues in communities"

How can they be mainline if there are less of them, and they don't even go to church? But they are religious anyway because they feed the poor. Well, athiests do that.

What an admission your organization stands for nothing.
10 posted on 12/18/2003 8:43:49 AM PST by I still care
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To: Ff--150
They can't. They'll lose their base. They are too heavily invested in hatred for religion.

Go over to a democrat website such as DU and take a peek. They save their bitterest invective, besides for Bush, for people of faith. They call us "fundies". Their favorite derogatory nickname for Lieberman (whom they hate) is "Holy Joe". They call him a DINO and think he should leave the party because he is really a Republican in disguise.

The bottom line is, if you say you are religious and feed the poor, that's acceptable. But if you attempt to live out your faith in any other way, you are a dangerous Nazi.
11 posted on 12/18/2003 8:49:11 AM PST by I still care
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To: I still care
"They call us "fundies"."

Is that right?!? "Fundies." The point is to maintain the facade of a two-party system, the dims are going to present a different illusion to attract the mainline, and since the "fundies" are exploding in popularity, they would be fools to keep the DU crowd.

12 posted on 12/18/2003 9:02:05 AM PST by Ff--150 (The Gospel of Thomas)
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To: FormerLib
I'm actually thankful for that

So am I! They lost me on abortion alone, much less the rest.

13 posted on 12/18/2003 9:02:32 AM PST by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: Ff--150
Just talk a different talk, and as anyone with an IQ over that of a pinecone can conclude the supposed conservative party hasn't change a thing except a lowering of taxes.

Lowering taxes WITHOUT reducing spending is simply a tax on future generations.

Just watch the dims start talking the talk for conservatives and evangelicals.

Not that I would vote dim, but it'd be nice to be wanted... *sniff* ;o) Series, I have wondered which party would cater to such a bloc of voters. It could be Hugh!

14 posted on 12/18/2003 9:06:54 AM PST by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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...the supposed conservative party hasn't change a thing except a lowering of taxes.

My wife switched to Republican because they were the ones who tossed out the 55-mph speed limit. Now that she's here, she's found lots more she agrees with.

The Republican party keeps making the mistake of not securing their religious conservative base and then find themselves of having to cave on issues such as taxation and spending because they lack sufficient levels of support. How often to we see postings and posters where alleged conservatives slam social conservatives as "fundies?"

15 posted on 12/18/2003 9:13:59 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Series, I have wondered which party would cater to such a bloc of voters. It could be Hugh!

Have you logged in? That's a Cold Shot, baby, yeah that's a drag!

Yeah, most folks don't go back and forth on 25 forums on the internet like some here do, so the dims will likely "repent" of their evil past and "find God" to attract normal people...

16 posted on 12/18/2003 9:24:17 AM PST by Ff--150 (The Gospel of Thomas)
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To: Ff--150
Have you logged in? That's a Cold Shot, baby, yeah that's a drag!

ROTF! No, I'm not logged in. A moose bit my sister while she was changing a light bulb. I was in the shower and missed it. Her daddy was a Ramblin' Man. Don't play that guitar upside down!

Yeah, most folks don't go back and forth on 25 forums on the internet like some here do.

There's other websites besides FreeRepublic.com? I am shocked, shocked I tell ya.

[S]o the dims will likely "repent" of their evil past and "find God" to attract normal people...

"Dims" would have to have a brain to be able to "repent".

18 posted on 12/18/2003 10:38:09 AM PST by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: I still care
The bottom line is, if you say you are religious and feed the poor, that's acceptable.

Liberals seek to confiscate other people's money and to redistribute the spoils through a terrifically ineffecient system. Some genuinely poor but deserving people receive sustenance thereby, but that goal is secondary to the liberals' political goal of buying support by raiding the public treasury.

Genuinely religious people tend to be generous in privately providing sustenance to the needy--but they do so directly and far more efficiently than the government does. Official statistics will not necessarily reflect the degree of this giving. Devout Christians will tend to give generously without worrying about documenting each contribution to get a tax deduction.

19 posted on 12/18/2003 10:55:56 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: FormerLib
How often to we see postings and posters where alleged conservatives slam social conservatives as "fundies?"

Those alleged conservatives are more than likely libs talking the talk, but showing their true colors with the "fundies."

The tigers are changing their stripes and comin' on over to the conservative side, leaving us at the bus stop.

20 posted on 12/18/2003 11:00:14 AM PST by Ff--150 (The Gospel of Thomas)
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