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Dean attacks military, President Bush - "Should have had Saddam six months earlier"

Posted on 12/15/2003 3:06:24 PM PST by jmcclain19

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3718010/

WASHINGTON - In a major foreign policy address Monday, Democratic presidential contender Howard Dean hailed the capture of Saddam Hussein as “good news for the Iraqi people and for the world,” but also claimed that his capture “could have taken place six months ago.”

Dean foreign policy adviser Susan Rice said after the speech that the former Vermont governor meant that if the Bush administration had done thorough planning for the aftermath of the military conflict, it could have developed better intelligence sources and in turn might have more quickly captured the deposed Iraqi dictator.

“The capture of Saddam has not made America safer,” Dean also said in the speech.

Lieberman: Dean in 'his own spider hole' That remark drew a caustic reply from one of Dean’s rivals for the Democratic nomination, Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman.

“Howard Dean has climbed into his own spider hole of denial if he believes that the capture of Saddam Hussein has not made America safer,” Lieberman said. “Saddam Hussein is a homicidal maniac, brutal dictator, supporter of terrorism, and enemy of the United States, and there should be no doubt that America and the world are safer with him captured.”

In a question-and-answer period following the speech, Dean also said, “I have never found the evidence convincing that Iraq was ever a significant threat to the United States.”

Dean’s candidacy has been powered by his attack on what he calls “the president’s unilateral intervention in Iraq.”

The Bush administration disputes the characterization of the removal of Saddam as “unilateral.” Several other nations, most significantly Great Britain, have contributed troops to the Iraq operation and have suffered casualties.

Dean said in Monday’s speech to the Pacific Council in Los Angeles that Bush had “launched the wrong war, at the wrong time, with inadequate planning, insufficient help and at extraordinary cost.”

'Rallying cry for terrorist recruits' The Iraq war, he alleged, “diverted critical intelligence and military resources … and created a new rallying cry for terrorist recruits.”

Dean said he “would not have hesitated” to launch an attack on Iraq “had the United Nations given us permission and asked us to be part of a multilateral force.”

And he emphasized that he would support use of American military force in some cases, noting that he did support the rollback of Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in 1991 and the effort to halt ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Kosovo.

He also said that in Iraq he would have supported U.S. intervention to halt Saddam’s massacres of Shiites in 1991.

Dean, who many polls show is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination, also charged that Bush “is about to be responsible for the fact that North Korea has become a nuclear power.” He said, “There is no disgrace in having the most powerful nation on earth negotiate bilaterally with North Korea, while we also pursue a multilateral track.”

Dean assailed “the hard-liners in the Bush administration” for spurning the possibility of engaging in bilateral negotiations with the regime of Kim Jong Il.

In the speech, Dean blasted what he called Bush’s “go-it-alone approach to every problem,” as well as what he said was its “radical unilateralism” and “brash boastfulness.”

“We find ourselves, too often, isolated and resented,” he declared, charging that Bush administration officials “seem to believe that nothing can be gained from working with nations that have stood by our side as allies for generations.”

He pledged to expand the existing U.S. program to find and control the nuclear, chemical and biological weapons inventory of the former Soviet Union.

Fire from Lieberman, Kucinich Of Dean’s eight rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination, his most severe critics have been Lieberman and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich.

Lieberman told reporters Sunday, “the capture of Saddam Hussein makes clear the choice between Howard Dean and me, which is the clearest choice that the candidates for president in the Democratic Party present.”

Lieberman said, “If Howard Dean has his way, Saddam Hussein would still be in power today, not in prison.”

Kucinich meanwhile has criticized Dean for offering no timeline for withdrawal of American soldiers from Iraq and for not being willing to cut the Defense Department budget – which Kucinich proposes to cut by $60 billion or about 15 percent of current outlays.

“No one else is saying definitively that we must end the (Iraq) occupation and I’m the only one doing it,” Kucinich told MSNBC.com recently. “I see this as a defining issue in this election. We must have a plan to get out. Not maybe. … We must have the Democrats united in ending the occupation.”


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; dean; hatepoweredhoward; heilhoward; hesabadman; howarddean; lies; poohead; saddam; schmuck; selfimportant; wackjob
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This will be pushed as an attack on President Bush.

Don't make that mistake. Its a slam on the US military, saying that we are inept w/out the UN.

1 posted on 12/15/2003 3:06:25 PM PST by jmcclain19
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To: jmcclain19
Dean is looking for as many ways as possible to make normal people hate him. That's the only explanation I can think.
2 posted on 12/15/2003 3:07:40 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: jmcclain19
Dean really doesn't want to be POTUS, does he?
3 posted on 12/15/2003 3:08:01 PM PST by squidly
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To: jmcclain19
Okay, putting together all Dean's comments in the last 36 hours, I have his stance all figured out:

"We never should have gone in but we should have gotten him 6 months ago. We are all better off now that he's captured but we aren't any safer. Iraq is no threat to us but if the UN said so, I'd attack for no reason whatsoever."

This guy is a nut!

4 posted on 12/15/2003 3:11:22 PM PST by wizardoz ("Let's roll!" ........................................................ "We got him!")
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To: jmcclain19
This guy is gonna be a pinata in the general election.
5 posted on 12/15/2003 3:11:22 PM PST by StatesEnemy
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To: jmcclain19
This guy will win ZERO states next year. Just keep talking Dean.
6 posted on 12/15/2003 3:12:02 PM PST by demlosers (Light weight and flexible - radiation shielding is solved.)
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To: jmcclain19
Dwarf Dean is a _________________ where _____________ = all the horrid names one may call this creature.
7 posted on 12/15/2003 3:12:32 PM PST by madison10
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To: jmcclain19
Dean, like the Clintons (both of them), is a lowlife, scumbag POS. America doesn't deserve such slime. He can go straight to hell.
8 posted on 12/15/2003 3:12:51 PM PST by rickmichaels
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I love how his staffer tried to clean it up, but you can't turn that turd he laid into any sort of workable answer.
9 posted on 12/15/2003 3:13:39 PM PST by jmcclain19
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To: jmcclain19

 

Crawling out of his spider hole...


10 posted on 12/15/2003 3:13:54 PM PST by Fintan (Door number three, Monty...)
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To: demlosers
I understand some of his political advisors come from the Clintons, specifically Warren Christopher and Tony Lake, the Russian lover.
11 posted on 12/15/2003 3:14:14 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Fintan
Genius!
12 posted on 12/15/2003 3:15:41 PM PST by Petronski (Can you hear the carpenters, Saddam? They're building a gallows.)
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To: squidly
Dean really doesn't want to be POTUS, does he?

Hell, he's already 60% of the way there.

He's a POS!

13 posted on 12/15/2003 3:16:34 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: jmcclain19
So this is the Dems new argument? You shouldn't have gone into Iraq. But if you would have you should have done it six months earlier, so you could have got Saddam sooner. More rope?
14 posted on 12/15/2003 3:17:44 PM PST by miloklancy
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To: jmcclain19
He says we have to have their PERMISSION??? Ex-squeeze me??? HE, AND the UN, can go straight to HELL!
15 posted on 12/15/2003 3:18:12 PM PST by johnb838 (CHRISTMAS! Jesus is the Reason for the Season. Say it Loud, I'm Christian and Proud!!!)
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"And he emphasized that he would support use of American military force in some cases, noting that he did support the rollback of Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in 1991 and the effort to halt ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Kosovo.

This guy may be an MD doctor, but he isn't smart enough, to be consistent.

Iraq 2003 posed a GREATER threat to US interests, than Kuwait 1990 or Bosnia/Kosova.
16 posted on 12/15/2003 3:18:31 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: jmcclain19
If it's Howard Dean, how can it be a 'major' foreign policy address?
17 posted on 12/15/2003 3:19:41 PM PST by telebob
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To: Fintan
LOL!!
18 posted on 12/15/2003 3:20:25 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: nutmeg
“Howard Dean has climbed into his own spider hole of denial..

Ping!!
19 posted on 12/15/2003 3:20:28 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Howlin
Warren Christopher

My Mom (GRHS) used to call him "Andy Gump" cuz he has no chin. Ah, those were the days.
20 posted on 12/15/2003 3:20:34 PM PST by johnb838 (CHRISTMAS! Jesus is the Reason for the Season. Say it Loud, I'm Christian and Proud!!!)
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