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Saddam's Briefcase Yielding 'Intelligence Windfall'
Newsmax.com ^ | 12/15/03 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 12/15/2003 7:00:43 AM PST by truthandlife

Less than 48 hours after he was taken into custody, U.S. military officials say that Saddam Hussein's capture has already produced an "intelligence windfall" of new information on Iraq's insurgent movement.

Speaking to reporters Monday morning, Brig. Gen. Mark Hurtling said, "Intelligence stemming from Saddam's arrest has led soldiers to capture several other top regime figures and uncover rebel cells in Baghdad."

The new information came from a briefcase of documents that the deposed Iraqi dictator was reportedly carrying when he was caught, according to MSNBC.

Hurtling told reporters that, based on the find, U.S. officials now believe Saddam was indeed playing a role in leading the anti-American insurgency.

The new information contradicts accounts from former Clinton administration officials who said on Sunday that the Iraqi dictator was likely too isolated to direct continuing attacks on U.S. GIs.

The documents in Saddam's briefcase are said to have provided U.S. military officials on the ground with "a clearer picture of the insurgent command and control network in Baghdad and confirmed the existence of suspected rebel cells."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200312; aqi; briefcase; husseincapture; insurgents; intelligence; iraq; isis; rebuildingiraq; saddam; saddamsbriefcase; viceisclosed
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To: OrioleFan
Watch for all those media folks to report future (and presumably much less frequent) US casualties by terrorist attacks as "despite the capture of Saddam Hussein, attacks continue."
41 posted on 12/15/2003 8:06:10 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Police officials view armed citizens like teachers union bosses view homeschoolers.)
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To: DannyTN
If he's directing a non-regular force, without recognizable uniforms, command structure, etc., doesn't that just make him another terrorist? POW status would imply too much stature for him...
42 posted on 12/15/2003 8:06:41 AM PST by HenryLeeII
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To: truthandlife
Clinton administration says?
*Guffaws*
Since when has anything those morons said panned out?
43 posted on 12/15/2003 8:07:17 AM PST by Darksheare (If you can't laugh at yourself, you must be Hillary. If you can't laugh, you're Al Gore.)
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To: truthandlife; Registered
I wonder if Registered knows what was in Saddam's briefcase? Was it an American Tourister or a Ballistic?
44 posted on 12/15/2003 8:09:16 AM PST by rabidralph (dubyadubyadubyadotdemocratshavealreadylost04dotcom)
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To: zook
This can't be true. Katy Couric said that there's no way Sadam could have been running any operation.

Please refer to her by her new Islamic name.

She is hereby known as Al-Qaetie Couric.

45 posted on 12/15/2003 8:09:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: Beelzebubba
True.
46 posted on 12/15/2003 8:11:41 AM PST by OrioleFan
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To: truthandlife
The new information contradicts accounts from former Clinton administration officials who said on Sunday that the Iraqi dictator was likely too isolated to direct continuing attacks on U.S. GIs.

The Clinton People are puting out that informaion? ... FIGURES

47 posted on 12/15/2003 8:12:28 AM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: thatdewd
I don't think the fact that Skorzeny's SS folks in the Battle of the Bulge pretended to be Americans and thus forfeited their status as lawful combatants meant that regular German troops were not treated as lawful combatants and given POW status, even German officers in command who presumably knew about the conduct of Skorzeny's people.

The Germans sometimes talked of treating Allied "terror bombers" as terrorists, but I don't believe they ever did, officially, at least. Captured airmen were certainly kept as normal POWs in POW camps.

Same goes even for RAF personnel who had been flying in support of the resistance in occupied countries.

48 posted on 12/15/2003 8:14:16 AM PST by aristeides
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To: truthandlife

49 posted on 12/15/2003 8:14:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave (George $orea$$ has owned and controlled the Rats for decades!)
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To: truthandlife
Fox news analysts on tv right now saying just the opposite of this report.

Hard to tell, everyone has an opinion.

50 posted on 12/15/2003 8:15:29 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: anoldafvet
I believe that in order to have POW status, you need to be captured in uniform to be considered an enemy combatant. If you are wearing civilian clothes, you are NOT a POW.

The Rules of War do not require you to wear a uniform 24 hours a day, seven days a week if you are not, at the time, actually engaged in combat. If so, any U.S. off-duty soldier captured while on liberty or in a rear recreation area in civilian clothes or buck naked in a shower could be denied POW status with a legal excuse to back it up.

That's not a good precedent to establish.

The Hague Convention codified the qualifications for belligerent rights as follows:

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REGULATIONS RESPECTING THE LAWS AND CUSTOMS OF WAR ON LAND
SECTION I
ON BELLIGERENTS
CHAPTER I
The Qualifications of Belligerents

Article 1.
The laws, rights, and duties of war apply not only to armies, but also to militia and volunteer corps fulfilling the following conditions:

To be commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;

To have a fixed distinctive emblem recognizable at a distance;

To carry arms openly; and

To conduct their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.

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In the first point, Saddam is in the clear. He is the leader.

However, if Saddam is connected to any car bombing where the driver posed as a civilian or in any bombing that attacked civilian targets, such as the Red Cross compound, then Saddam would have violated some or all of the last three conditions for qualification as a legal combatant with POW rights.

51 posted on 12/15/2003 8:15:49 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Lazamataz
Kudos for this:

Al-Qaetie Couric

52 posted on 12/15/2003 8:16:06 AM PST by Grampa Dave (George $orea$$ has owned and controlled the Rats for decades!)
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To: txradioguy
Thank you so much for your service- I hope you guys know how many people here are praying for you and support everything you are doing. God Speed and Merry Christmas!
53 posted on 12/15/2003 8:16:22 AM PST by ThinkingMan
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To: Lazamataz
Please refer to her by her new Islamic name. She is hereby known as Al-Qaetie Couric.

That's Al-Qaetie Couric bin Hasbeen al Ib Eral
54 posted on 12/15/2003 8:17:44 AM PST by polemikos (This Space for Rant)
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To: .cnI redruM
Or never trust the briefcase. Remember British major Meinertzgarden losing a briefcase before the battle of Beersheba in 1917. It contained documents showing a british attack north of the city, while the Australian Light Horse went south and east into the Sinai and came up from behind, and took the city in one of history's last cavalry charges.The scene was nicely displayed in the Ausiie film about the Light Horse.

Of course Meinertzgarden didn't let himself be captured by the Turks to cooroborate the intel. I don't think Saddam sacrificed himself to plant false info, but taking things with grains of salt, even in the desert, is a good precaution.

55 posted on 12/15/2003 8:18:08 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: twigs
Yet, I haven't seen a one of them interviewed. I just keep hearing news people say that "former Clinton officials say . . ." with no names or attributes. I find that unprofessional and disturbing.

Ooooo! The keen eye of a veteran freeper. Run rats run.

56 posted on 12/15/2003 8:19:47 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (I never met an urban legend I did not like.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Kudos for this: Al-Qaetie Couric



Curtsey.

57 posted on 12/15/2003 8:20:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: 1Old Pro
The bottom line is, this capture scared the H$!! out of the dum's. This is their first worst nightmare. The second is the capture or finding of OBL during the Dum's Nat'l insurgence or I mean convention.
58 posted on 12/15/2003 8:22:35 AM PST by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: Lazamataz
You are welcome and thanks for the great one liner. Somewhere I have a photo shop file where al Qaetie Couric is a hand puppet with McAwful as the puppeteer.
59 posted on 12/15/2003 8:23:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave (George $orea$$ has owned and controlled the Rats for decades!)
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To: truthandlife
"The new information contradicts accounts from former Clinton administration officials who said on Sunday that the Iraqi dictator was likely too isolated to direct continuing attacks on U.S. GIs."

Shouldn't that read that the Clintons are too isolated from reality to realize that W will go down in history as one of the greats and Bubba will go down as another mistake by the voters.
60 posted on 12/15/2003 8:23:21 AM PST by Beck_isright (This tag line edited by the 9th Circuit Court due to offensive political commentary)
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