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Conservatives are now the "Blacks" of the Republican Party
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| 12/17/03
| Destro
Posted on 12/11/2003 10:35:18 AM PST by Destro
In a discussion on this thread Tom Ridge's Immigration Remarks Draw Fire a post regarding the conservative angst about the recent campaign finance reform that Bush signed into law and that the Supreme Court approved (and the approval was praised by the White House), on the heals of the Medicare entitlement enacted under a Republican controlled government the following was posted:
I'm hearing Rush now. He claims the republicans have ONLY one party to go to. He has put this issue squarely on the problem. We need to vote outside of this corrupt party apparatus.
12 posted on 12/11/2003 12:39:52 PM EST by Digger
I also heard this on Rush and my blood boiled. Rush said conservatives have no place else to go and thus will continue to vote as a block to the Republicans.....and then it hit me. That is exactly what we conservatives lament about Blacks and the Democratic party. Black Democrats who vote straight Democratic and are rewarded by being ignored.
In other words, Conservatives are now the "Blacks" of the Republican Party!!!
I urge the same solution to Republican conservatives that Black conservatives offer to Black Democrats. QUIT! Become independents and let the parties fight for our votes. If we can't take the GOP back we should leave the GOP.
I did not change. My party did. I thank God Ronald Reagan is unable to comprehend what is happening to the party he saved.
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To: looscnnn
No, that is dereliction of duty and cowardice under fire. There is only one right vote in 2004. The correct solution to the general problem is the impeachment and removal of selected judges from office and heavy lobbying for conservative judges nominated by President Bush.I guess you will run right out and do as he says since he showed you that you were a derelict and a coward.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:07:49 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Aw, just damn!
Black conservative ping
If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)
Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.
42
posted on
12/11/2003 11:08:10 AM PST
by
mhking
To: af_vet_1981
Sorry, I don't buy your Hillary Clinton product. Try another house.Thank you for the concession of the points made.
43
posted on
12/11/2003 11:08:45 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: Angelus Errare
You aren't helpful. That makes you the enemy. I know it's true, Dane said so. And she is always correct.
45
posted on
12/11/2003 11:11:11 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
To: Protagoras
I concede nothing to you. I consider you an advocate for treason, cowardice, or surrender. Take your pick.
To: Protagoras
I guess you will run right out and do as he says since he showed you that you were a derelict and a coward Huh trying to defeat a dean Presidency is not cowardly. The cowardly act is letting a dean Presidency happen. Just like you guys did by helping elect a clinton Presidency.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:11:42 AM PST
by
Dane
To: mhking
I assume you can get on the black conservative ping list if you aren't black. If so, please add me. Thanks
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:13:21 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
To: Destro
Trolling? Hey maybe all the trolls will come to this thread like terrorists to Iraq. You've taken legitimate criticisms and decided the only thing to do is promote defeatism. Tell me when you turn blue from holding your breath.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:14:02 AM PST
by
Stentor
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To: Dane
Just like you guys did by helping elect a clinton Presidency.So now we have two alleged cowards and two people calling them cowards.
That will get their votes. Good thinking.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:15:29 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
To: stainlessbanner
I'll vote for Dubya come November - there is no sound alternative. What I do on the local, State, and Federal Congressional elections is another matter - there I have room to be VERY picky.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:15:32 AM PST
by
King Prout
(...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
To: Prime Choice
And what are liberal republicans?They are voters and they vote republican, and the republican party has some conservatives, and if the republicans are in control, then those conservatives have a chance to do their thing.
They always struck me as internal rot; subversive refugees from the Democratic party. But that's just my opinion.
Yes, your opinion.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:15:53 AM PST
by
Consort
To: TonyRo76
not someone who'll expand the central government's power over the states à la the first LincolnI'm glad you cleared that up.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:16:59 AM PST
by
TomServo
("That felt good... Now I'm going to turn my daughter into a woodchuck.")
To: af_vet_1981
I concede nothing to you.Of course you conceded. You couldn't counter the points so you called names with no reference to them whatsoever. It's a sure thing concession.
I consider you an advocate for treason, cowardice, or surrender.
More namecalling and off topic viterol. All from behind a keyboard. Very heroic.
And sure to convince people to your cause.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:19:04 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
To: af_vet_1981
Whoa there buddy.
First off, what does the Medicare bill that was passed have to do with terrorism, the war, defending our country, etc. NOTHING.
Second, what does the campaign finance bill have to do with terrorism, the war, defending our country, etc. NOTHING.
Third, what does the education bill have to do with terrorism, the war, defending our country, etc. NOTHING.
Fourth, what does giving amnisty to illegal aliens have to do with terrorism, the war, defending our country, etc. A heck of a lot, but they are for it.
I understand your passion for this country, but to attack another person because they are voicing an opinion that is being held by others. An opinion that the 2 parties are starting to become indistinguishable, that it might be time to have a conservative 3rd party. This is not treason, cowardice or surrender, it is like leaving a job for another that has a better work environment. One that has like minded people that work together.
Strom Thurmond is a prime example of the case at hand, he and his party went separate ways idiologically and so he became a Republican.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:19:58 AM PST
by
looscnnn
("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
To: TonyRo76
Oh I hear ya.
To: Protagoras
So now we have two alleged cowards and two people calling them cowards. That will get their votes. Good thinking.
LOL! I have a clear conscious and the moral high ground to criticize the Clinton's. I voted for the person who came in second in 92(i.e the person who had the best chance to beat Clinton).
Those who voted for Peort have no right to criticize the Clintons', IMO, since they indirectly helped his election.
BTW, Pro, the system is set up for a two party Presidential election. The person who gets 270 electoral votes wins. If you have a problem with that why don't you find Mr. Peabody and ask if you can use his wayback machine and chew out the Founding Fathers.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:21:47 AM PST
by
Dane
To: Dane
I'm confused.........
How does casting a vote, in a presidential election, for Charlton Heston instead of a "big party" candidate, add a single vote for the democrat?
It doesn't.
The entire argument over "not voting for bush is a vote for gore" is a falshood.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:22:02 AM PST
by
WhiteGuy
(Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
To: Dane
So did a lot of Republican supposed conservatives.
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posted on
12/11/2003 11:22:15 AM PST
by
looscnnn
("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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