Posted on 12/08/2003 12:25:37 PM PST by snopercod
Banning Partial Birth Abortion, signing two laws to arm pilots, reforming Medicare with a half dozen Privatization options, cutting our income taxes so much that a family of four earning forty thousand per year only pays fourty-five Dollars per year in federal income taxes, giving three pay raises to our military, and CONSTRUCTING our ABM nuclear defense systems are a "domestic disaster" to you?!
Say hello to Planet DU for me when you get back there kid.
There's no need for you to beg and plead. If you want *me* to do your homework for you by showing you at least one Clinton XO that forced federal agencies to behave as if the U.S. Senate had ratified the Kyoto Global Warming treaty (even though it never did), then *all* that you have to do is to commit to giving President Bush full and complete credit for killing that treaty (as soon as I deliver the evidence).
If you can't make that commitment, then why should I spend any time at all on you. After all, if you aren't going to give credit even when evidence is given to you (and to this point you've certainly not wanted to give any), then why *should* I waste my time with you?
Notice that you are arguing *outside* the scope of the actual law itself.
Why is that? Ask yourself, if your argument was really very strong, would you have to resort to arguing outside the actual law with hypotheticals?
It's a ten year law. This law authorizes $39.5 Billion per year.
If you can't make your point that this law is bad based upon the real numbers, then just what are you really arguing? And why...
As am I. In fact, the thought that this is what really makes the Democrats upset thrills me no end. Just think, all those HSAs filled with money they can't spend and which makes us less dependent on government for our medical expenses. It can even be left to our families, because it's our own earned and saved money that we get to keep under our control. This part alone is what is the true reforming of Medicare.
You have a lot more faith in the courts (particularly when so many of them are filled with Clinton appointees) than I do. What XOs have the courts thrown out from the Clinton Administration? It would be interesting to see what has happened to the various Presidents' XOs after they were out of office.
Just learn to say that republican big govt socialism is good.
It's that democrat big govt socialism which is bad.
After all, "Ignorance is strength."
Regards
J.R.
All I know is that W has taken America further and faster down the road to socialism than clinton ever did (see my tagline). He just saddled future generations with the biggest "entitlement" program since LBJ.
He has essentially nationalized the airline industry in America.
He has ignored his oath of office just as much or more than clinton did. The CFR bill he signed trampled the First Amendment, and the (misnamed) Patriot Act is busy trampling the Second, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Eighth, Ninth and Tenth.
But hey, look at the bright side. So far, anyway, we're safe from the threat of quartering soldiers in private homes.
You spoke of security. The security of America comes from the preparedness of it's informed, armed and vigilant citizens, not from an army of unionized drones at airports in a make-work program like the TSA.
The security of America comes from a vibrant economy - one with people who know how to acually design and build things, not just shuffle papers and manipulate symbols on a computer screen.
The masthead here at FR says "We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America."
Are we?
I'd say that selling oneself as a conservative then acting like a socialist when elected to office qualifies as fraud, wouldn't you? Why aren't we trying to root it out?
And notwithstanding his tax cut which is only temporary, please name one part of government largesse that has been "rolled back" under Bush. Why are we not outraged?
And please tell me how selling out the conservative base in America is "futhering the cause of conservatism"? I'm having a lot of difficulty understanding that one.
GWB didn't ban PBA, the Congress did that.....but you knew that, didn't you? And so on....
Say hello to Planet DU for me when you get back there kid.
Well, the power of that statement leaves me just breathless. Actually, I've been a FReeper longer than you have, but then I am not a brain-dulled citizen of Bushbotland.
You got those talking points down pat.....you been practicing??
With that kind of response, (issuing a personal attack re: "tenure" on the forum instead of arguing his post with some reasonable points) one may mistake you as a newbie.
No, we have the lip-synching fraud, George Herbert Walker Bush to thank for that mess.
84 posted on 12/08/2003 4:36:10 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
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When you're bragging about Jorge Delano Bush's legislative prowlness, including his strengthening our southern borders, don't forget to mention that little addition tucked away in the Medicare Bill that is 1 BILLION dollars to cover the healthcare costs of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
So alot of families can't afford to purchase healthcare coverage , but we can give it to the elderly and Illegals for free.
Welcome to the Compassionate Conservative Platform, SAME AS THE DEMOCRAT PLATFORM. Stick it to the working man, and roll over on social issues.
84 posted on 12/08/2003 4:36:10 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
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When you're bragging about Jorge Delano Bush's legislative prowlness, including his strengthening our southern borders, don't forget to mention that little addition tucked away in the Medicare Bill that is 1 BILLION dollars to cover the healthcare costs of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
So alot of families can't afford to purchase healthcare coverage , but we can give it to the elderly and Illegals for free.
Welcome to the Compassionate Conservative Platform, SAME AS THE DEMOCRAT PLATFORM. Stick it to the working man, and roll over on social issues.
That is preposterous. Ask anyone else if I am being unrealistic. You are stretching things like an elastic band. Do you know how stupid this sounds: "...that forced federal agencies to behave as if the U.S. Senate had ratified the Kyoto Global Warming treaty." I am not trying to insult you, but that is a stretch that no reasonable person can accept. If you don't trust me, ping anyone else who is not a total Bush-bot.
If you can't make that commitment, then why should I spend any time at all on you. After all, if you aren't going to give credit even when evidence is given to you (and to this point you've certainly not wanted to give any), then why *should* I waste my time with you?
Again, I don't think you have the evidence. Otherwise, instead of wasting all this time you would have presented the evidence right away.
. . . On the other hand, the Washington Times is reporting today that this drug benefit will cost about $2 trillion in its second decade. Stay tuned.
Ok, decade, not year as I reported earlier, however, far much more than $400 billion over 10.
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