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To: FirstPrinciple
This law is only valid for the next ten years.
"Yeah and social security is a pension scheme for widows and orphans which there wouldn't be any need for after the Great Depression is over."

Notice that you are arguing *outside* the scope of the actual law itself.

Why is that? Ask yourself, if your argument was really very strong, would you have to resort to arguing outside the actual law with hypotheticals?

It's a ten year law. This law authorizes $39.5 Billion per year.

If you can't make your point that this law is bad based upon the real numbers, then just what are you really arguing? And why...

103 posted on 12/08/2003 10:43:52 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
That is really silly and naive. Name me one govt entitlement program that has been reversed. If you don't have an iota of pragmatism then you are in the wrong team.
114 posted on 12/09/2003 9:14:24 AM PST by FirstPrinciple
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To: Southack
If you can't make your point that this law is bad based upon the real numbers, then just what are you really arguing? And why...

When a camel wants to warm its nose inside the tent, should one focus one's opposition on the nose, or on a desire not to have the whole camel inside the tent?

Can you name for me a single government program that was designed to make a good or service cheaper for certain people by subsidizing it, which has not caused the price of that good or service to skyrocket for everyone else as well as (1) having the price the government pays skyrocket as well, (2) ending up with the goods/services costing so much more that the price even for the supposed beneficiaries of the program pay more than they would had the program never existed, or (3) both?

150 posted on 12/09/2003 5:19:11 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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