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Canada's conservative parties approve merger aimed at winning next elections
SFGate.com ^ | 06 December 2003 | Colin McLelland, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 12/06/2003 4:59:01 PM PST by MegaSilver

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Canada's two largest conservative parties have agreed to merge as a way to halt the vote-splitting that has helped deny them power in Ottawa for a decade.

Members of the Progressive Conservative Party voted 90 percent in favor of the merger with the larger Canadian Alliance on Saturday, a day after the Alliance backed the move by 96 percent.


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TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alliance; canada; canadianalliance; conservatism; conservative; conservativesunite; conservativeunity; tories; tory; unity
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Let American conservatives learn a lesson from this...
1 posted on 12/06/2003 4:59:02 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
Canada's got too many people on the receiving end.
2 posted on 12/06/2003 5:15:09 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: MegaSilver
Let American conservatives learn a lesson from this...

Amen.  The Tiny Tent Johnny-One-Issue Republilcans are their own worst enemies.
Typically social conservatives incapable of compromise for religious reasons, their instransigence, if not hostility, to those outside the barricades chokes off the likelihood of forming an overwhelming majority.
5 posted on 12/06/2003 6:26:00 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
Yes, your right, the GOP would do great, just the PC Party in Canada did without all those "right-wingers"... why some of them actually oppose Democrat idea's, how awful!
6 posted on 12/06/2003 6:35:29 PM PST by GeronL (Visit www.geocities.com/geronl.....and.....www.returnoftheprimitive.com)
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To: gcruse
In the 301-seat Parliament, the Alliance currently holds 63 seats and the Tories have 15,

and these Tories are your vision for the Republicans?

7 posted on 12/06/2003 6:36:26 PM PST by GeronL (Visit www.geocities.com/geronl.....and.....www.returnoftheprimitive.com)
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To: GeronL
...while the incumbent Republican administrations enacts those same Democratic ideas. If we're going to be fiscal profligates anyway, let's bring the fiscal liberals into the tent and govern for the next sixty years.
8 posted on 12/06/2003 6:43:21 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: GeronL
BTW, AARP liked the Medicare bill so much, they came in the tent. Amazing, huh?
9 posted on 12/06/2003 6:44:48 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
I hope you enjoy learning Arabic and praying five times a day to Mecca.
10 posted on 12/06/2003 6:46:33 PM PST by labard1
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To: labard1
What are you talking about? Any idea?
11 posted on 12/06/2003 6:49:13 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
The AARP will not endorse the GOP in the next election. They will be running ads saying "We can improve it!, Vote Democrat!"
12 posted on 12/06/2003 6:49:43 PM PST by GeronL (Visit www.geocities.com/geronl.....and.....www.returnoftheprimitive.com)
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To: gcruse
Since you think the Dims are no different from the Republicans, I think you should enjoy the consequences of a triumph of the Dim.
13 posted on 12/06/2003 6:51:04 PM PST by labard1
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To: labard1
Watch what they do, they'll SAY anything.
You may be confusing Republicans with conservatives.
Conservatives have core principles from which they generate a political philosophy.
Republicans are politicians whose job it is to gain control of the levers of power and maintain it. Principles are useful insofar as they promote the accession to office.
See the difference?
There is no such thing as a RINO. If the guy is in office, he's a Republican. Period.
Think CINO. Conservative In Name Only. That's what we have in the Supreme Court and the White House. The only real conservative in the Congress is probably Ron Paul.
14 posted on 12/06/2003 6:55:58 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: labard1
Since you think the Dims are no different from the Republicans, I think you should enjoy the consequences of a triumph of the Dim.

I see one problem common to both Republicans and Democrats: they are not politically conservative enough. The difference is that Republicans are too wussy to effectively enact the legislation which will shrink the government and empower Americans, whereas Democrats are actively trying to expand the government and defraud Americans.

15 posted on 12/06/2003 6:58:22 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: gcruse
If Ron Paul is the only real conservative in Congress, it appears that there aren't many conservatives in the US. I doubt that Ronald Reagan meets your definition of a conservative either. He ran a deficit and raised taxes on more than one occasion. Nevertheless, he's my idea of a real conservative. He built a real majority for conservative Republicans. I don't like big government or the current spending trends, but I dislike what the Dims would do even more.
16 posted on 12/06/2003 7:03:11 PM PST by labard1
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but I dislike what the Dims would do even more.

I'm no democrat, but when you consider democrats were in the White House for the successful prosecution of two World Wars, where are you getting that they somehow can't fight?
17 posted on 12/06/2003 7:10:20 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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I'm no democrat, but when you consider democrats were in the White House for the successful prosecution of two World Wars, where are you getting that they somehow can't fight?

You need to read David Horowitz's How to Beat the Democrats and Other Subversive Ideas. He has a section that outlines how the Democratic Party was hijacked by liberal, pacifist, anti-Christian, and anti-American types. (I recall that he does skip a little of the earlier background I mention here, though.) At first it was FDR's New Deal, then a similar initiative by Kennedy (the name escapes me). Then, we had Johnson's War on Poverty and the disaster in Vietnam. The fate of the Democratic Party into the hands of leftism was sealed once and for all at the Democratic National Committee in 1972, and since then, it has been the stronghold of countercultural ideology. However many good contributions it made to America in the first parts of the century, the Democratic Party is not the same party today that it was back then.

18 posted on 12/06/2003 7:21:31 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: labard1
If Ron Paul is the only real conservative in Congress, it appears that there aren't many conservatives in the US. I doubt that Ronald Reagan meets your definition of a conservative either. He ran a deficit and raised taxes on more than one occasion. Nevertheless, he's my idea of a real conservative. He built a real majority for conservative Republicans. I don't like big government or the current spending trends, but I dislike what the Dims would do even more.

Agreed. I'm not happy that I sometimes have to vote Republican to cast a vote AGAINST the Democrats, but I'll take what I can get.

19 posted on 12/06/2003 7:23:19 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
You're right. The Dims today (without the South) are entirely different from what they used to be. Both parties supported the WWII effort (albeit reluctantly). Today's Dims are guilty of conduct that during WWII would have been classified as treason.
20 posted on 12/06/2003 8:08:09 PM PST by labard1
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